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What does /lit/ think of Moomin?
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>>8786861
I only know that it's Finnish and I hate Finns even morse than I do niggers and sodomites so naturally I hate it too.
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>>8786861
I read one of them when I was a wee lad. It was a good mix of wierd, spooky, and "comfy" I dont remember many details, but looking back at it an adult might enjoy it outside of nostalgia.
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>>8786861
Very Scandinavian in that it's spooky and comfy at the same time.

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>tfw philosophy major is pretty useless bu philosophy is literally the ONLY subject in school that has ever engaged me
What should I do /lit/? Its the only subject I enjoy pursuing and yet all the jobs you can get with a philosophy degree sound like shit
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do it if u can get a scholarship but don't pay for a philosophy degree
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Get a real degree and a real job then study philosophy with your free time for the rest of your life.

If you can't get a good job you'll never have free time bc you'll be working multiple jobs and Uber-driving for the rest of your life.
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>If you can't get a good job you'll never have free time bc you'll be working multiple jobs and Uber-driving for the rest of your life.

There are alternatives

What is the point of all the encyclopaedic stuff about the fucking whale?

Someone please explain why Melville thought it was necessary
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>>8778101
this fucking thread AGAIN
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i hope you're not implying it isn't the best part of the best book anon
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>>8778101
There's already a thread about this

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I don't know when or how to use comma, colon and semicolon.
I think i tend to overuse comma, and have no clue how colon and semicolon are supposed to work.

Request help from you /lit/erati.
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Just bee your self; it'll all work out.

Or just google it. There's plenty of expositions of all three that are going to be more accurate than what can be distilled into a shitpost here.
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Think of semi-colons as basically periods. They are used to separate two independent clauses, or sentences that are able to stand on their own. An example of a dependent clause is one that lacks a significant subject or action, such as "Because the dog barks." instead of "The dog barks." However, if you're writing a novel, I highly urge you not to use semi-colons and instead opt for periods. They are usually just used when two sentences are more related than usual or directly play off one another; they're not necessary in the slightest :}

Commas...
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>>8795660
Your just going too halve to work heart at it; look thee rules up every time yore in doubt and eventually ewe Will bee able to right correctly.

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Opinions of PKD? What about his Exegenesis? Is it just the ramblings of a mentally ill person?
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boobies
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>>8795645
what anime is that?
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John Milton is more insane than him

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>he doesn't read great Native American /lit/erature
>why are people so fucking ignorant?
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>>8795567
the crocodile blood kind of native american literature or the black elk kind?
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Where do these keep coming from?
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>>8795567
We genocided those pieces of shits so we wouldn't have to deal with their low quality litterature

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I am trying to convey the relationship between perception and [insert word here].

[Insert word here] would be a verb for the act of giving off the qualities that are being perceived.

For example: I am perceiving your sadness. You are emitting/transmitting/etc.? sadness.

Not emoting. I'm talking about giving off the qualities of something.

Please help!
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Exude? Emanate?
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>>8795501
Thanks for the response.

I don't think emanate hits the mark though, but exude is closer though. Here is the sentence to give you a better idea of the context. Forgive the douchey topic, it's a graduate skills course paper.

"In a negotiation, both sides are perceiving and transmitting. It is a good negotiator’s objective to actively perceive and discreetly transmit in order to effectively manipulate the outcome."

Basically, I'm trying to say that you need to be conscious...
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>>8795515
You should really rewrite that cause it sounds fucking stupid and empty
>perceiving what? transmitting what?
>if manipulation depends on transmission, why should one actively perceive?

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I read the Lord of the Rings about 15 years ago and I've not touched it since. I decided to rectify that and I've picked up the Silmarillion as well. Is there any substantial merit to reading one before the other? Will I see the LotR in a new light having read the Silmarillion first, or is it not strictly necessary? I figure I can exclude the Hobbit from this given the relatively small scope of that book.
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>>8795432
The Hobbit is more important to the story of LoTR than the Silmarillion. Silmarillion is deep lore, and it's certainly not strictly necessary because it was published after JRR died.

That's a nice edition by the way, I have it.
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>>8795456
It's likely not the one I have unfortunately. I'm getting it for a Christmas present from the in-laws but I'm planning to set aside some time in the New Year to read some more. Thanks Anon, I guess I can read my beat up Trilogy book knowing I'm not missing out on much.
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>>8795432
It works very well regardless of the order you read them in, perhaps it would make your experience of LotR different if you read Silmarillion first though.

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Do you have to be fucked in the head to be a good writer?
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>>8795417
no, but go ahead and define 'fucked in the head'
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>>8795426
Mental illness. It seems like every great writer has/had either depression, schizophrenia, bipolar, borderline, etc.
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>>8795417
>Do you have to be fucked in the head to be a good writer?
No. Probably so in order to be an INTERESTING writer

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>>8795385
literally who
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>>8795412
You do not belong here.
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>>8795412
haha you stupid idiot you couldn't identify a second rate 17th century writer from an unmarked portrait alone? hows middle school you fuckin pleb xDD
>>8795434
ya you told him op!!!

I'm wondering what /lit/ thinks of the lyrics of a song I wrote

http://vocaroo.com/i/s05srZFmnXNY
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Tell me the photo is real.
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awful voice awful accent awful song
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>>8795325
>http://vocaroo.com/i/s05srZFmnXNY

http://vocaroo.com/i/s0Mfc96jMqJW

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what is the best book about filmmaking out there?
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The one the manlet in your pic wrote desu
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Hello is this the thread where we talk about non-literary artforms?
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Also Film Art by David Bordwell

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a good book

im not sure.

someone said it was
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Fuck off. What's with all you non-readers and underaged faggots shitting up this board? This used to actually be a good place to discuss literature and get book recommendations.
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>>8795078
its christmas soon so expecting ppl to drop by more often to ask something quick and trivial seems quite normal
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>>8795070
I read that shit in 5th grade, all i remember is that its message went something like "if u conform u literally kill babies!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Also u need to see more color ;)"

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Im trying to find good libertarian literature but all the recs i can find elsewhere are 1984 and ayn rand.

I really, really dont want to read ayn rand.

What are some good, non-ayn rand libertarian books? Thank.
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>>8795062

"I want ayn rand but I don't want to read ayn rand"

I don't know man.
Fucking Glenn Beck maybe
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>>8795062
by literature do you mean fiction or non-fiction?

there is tons of lib/ancap/w/evs nonfiction to read. austrians, traditionalists, all that. but for fiction after ayn rand your next stop is literally terry goodkind

you don't want to go there bra
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>>8795084
Non-fiction pls :^)

Should I bother finishing this? Is it even an important piece of literature?
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>>8794943
It'll help with trivia night and it's a fun light read.
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>>8794943
read this to understand exactly why dickens falls flat
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It's Dickens' tackiest and least substantial book, for sure. That doesn't mean you should just drop it. Finishing books, no matter how unengaging they are, is a very useful habit to develop.

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When I was in college, my professor told our class a story about a group of sociologists who traveled to Northern Canada to a settlement of Eskimos. They had lived there for thousands of years and had never seen civilization. When the sociologists took a group of them to New York City, they couldn't see the skyscrapers. They had grown up in a world of flat ice with few, if any, vertical planes of reference--the buildings were simply too big for them to comprehend. This is supported by a simple study conducted on kittens, in which one group was given goggles with vertical...
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Start with the Greeks
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>>8794787
>When the sociologists took a group of them to New York City, they couldn't see the skyscrapers.
Going to call bullshit on that
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>>8794787
David Foster Wallace - Everything is Green (from Girl With Curious Hair)
A man's young wife looks out their window and sees nature ("Everything is green"), but all the older husband can see is how nature has decayed by the gradual intervention of man.

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What book would you suggest to a 72 yo but still vigorous male who has read, in his lifetime, the following books:

Will Durant - The Story of Civilization
Will Durant - The Story of Philosophy
Bertrand Russell - Essays in Skepticism
Jean-Jacques Rousseau - On the Origin and Basis of Inequality Among Men
Francesco Guicciardini - The History of Italy
Michel de Montaigne - Essais
Voltaire - Treatise on Tolerance
Voltaire - Candide
Aristotle - Rhetoric
Plato - Republic
Albert Einstein - The World As I See It
Geoffrey Chaucer - The Canterbury Tales
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>>8794606
edward gibbon my crusty old nigga

stay patrician tho. plz post the rest of your classy af reading list with fireplaces, i don't plan on killing myself until tuesday
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A collection of Orwell's essays, which are worlds better than his hackish prose
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Stoner, always

And of course Gibbon's Decline and Fall if history if your thing

This thread is terrible. This thread is the halloween of threads. Don't you dare post anything of quality in this thread. Got a post that's absolutely awful? Don't post it there; post it here. This is the official /lit/ shit-tip. Deal with your bad posts here, and don't talk about them after you leave.
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I'm depressed because nobody posted in my shit, shit thread; even after I got double doubles.
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>>8794460

Yeah, well, I have really pathetic fantasies about spooning with a girl with fragrant hair. They've completely consumed all my raunchy, depraved sexual fantasies. Literally all I want to do is hold someone warm real close to me, and blabber nonsensical lovey-dovey stuff into their ears.

I am turning into a John Green archetype. It is quite distressing.
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I don't think Twilight is bad. I mean it's awful but not any worse than any of the other YA Fiction out there.

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Tell me about Socrates
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>>8794379

Why does he wear the beard?
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Lotta loyal students for an ugly pedophile!
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>>8794379

They expect one of us in the wreckage, brother.

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/lit/ if i wanted to do a comparative study on TCL49 what other book should i choose?
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>>8794260
Oh just choose any old book, you'll die after long enough either way
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>>8794265
> >:(
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>>8794260
Alice in Wonderland, yes seriously, think about it

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Are antiheroes the best kind of protagonists?
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>>8794248
They are genrally good because they are flawed.
If a character is a Gary Stu or a selfinsert with the only flaw of being too good then they end up being flat.
If a character has aproblem that differs with society and is one that he has to work to solve or to try and lvie with he will evolve and overcome in his own way the boulders in his path. Look at Don Quijote, he starts crazy as fuck, fighting the mills and all that but in the end he ha a more pesimistic cyinc way of seeing the world because of his experiences...
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Is Meursault an antihero? An antivillain?
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Rodya did nothing wrong

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>male selects Jane Austen or one of her books as one of his favourite authors / books in public and you suspect he's doing it to look politically correct but only by praising a woman which is a bit subtler than heaping praise on a non white

It doesn't help that the person is always probably politically correct anyway
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>>8794151
go away frog
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jane austen is pretty conservative anyway

REAL progressives pretend their favorite is kathy acker >:D
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OP here, I just realised that you should replace Jane Austen and her books with any woman and their works in any field

Just sped through Stoner in a day and it was one of the most enjoyable reading experiences I've ever had, probably because the prose wasn't that dense or difficult.

I've gone through Pynchon's two most recent (I especially liked Bleeding Edge) but for the life of me cannot read more than 100 pages of M&D without getting lost.

I don't have a lot of time on my hands these days, so could y'all rec me some books which are highly regarded but also fun reads?

pic unrelated
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good album first of all. i dunno, try 100 years of solitude, the only difficulty comes from many characters sharing the same name, but aside from that it's easy peasy and and amazing novel overall
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Did you know he made a second time machines album last year? Balance is long dead but he came up with new material. Crazy right? I haven't listened to it, but if you like Time Machines, idk, listen to it. Maybe you'll like it. Or you've heard it already in that case oh alright
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>>8794121

the second one was post humous for coil overall. it got released after sleazy died too. haven't listened to it though i maybe like it though idk.

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>go to the classics section of a bookstore
>it's literally nothing but jane austen novels
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>drive into bookstore
>books scattered everywhere
>regrettably no one died
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>>8793866
>Go to the /lit/ section of 4chan
>it's literally nothing but shipposting
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>go to local bookstore to support local businesses
>classics section
>the abridged steinbeck
> the portable hemingway
>the readers' digest popular novels collection
>leave

you're not truly a reader, unless you've read pic related.

Agree?
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No.
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>>8793726
why are these out of order?
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>>8793744
so Joyce can be middle

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The structure supporting modern MFA programs allows the modern literary elite/institution too much control over which direction writers choose to develop their skill set it and what creative innovations they perceive as worthwhile. Modern intellectuals and thinkers possess an unprecedented amount of power over the creative process of an entire generation of writers.

Considering pursuing an MFA. Could someone with insight shed some light on how the course actually goes about educating you in creative writing? I wrote what’s below to kind of explain to myself the reservations...
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George Saunders teaches part of the MFA at Syracuse. And I would be absolutely ecstatic to have George Saunders critique my work and share his knowledge in fiction writing with me. He's a great writer. But the other 50 or so people in that class would hear the exact same information and techniques I heard, and those would likely all be funneled into our work somehow. They would hear exactly what I hear. They would complete the same assignments I complete. They would go the same places. See the same people. We would apply, at least to an extent, at least a sizeable amount...
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>>8793698
Write poetry. It's lessed plagued by these pedagogical problems.
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Compare it to what you think would happen if William S Burroughs took a writing course taught by Ernest Hemingway at the time, if Burroughs typed out the final version of The Naked Lunch and turned it in for a big project, what would you think Hemingway would have done? There's a good chance he'd rip Burroughs apart, destroy his self-worth, and force him to choose between failing, not getting his degree, not having that little certificate that makes it so much easier to get published, or simply changing the way he writes. Writers as good as Burroughs can write in a...
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Write whatever's on your mind.
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>>8793634
The golden age of comics was crazy as fuck
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>>8793650
That's actually from the Silver Age, who was way way crazier than the Golden one when it was mostly about punching nazis, gangsters and corrupt politicians
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>>8793656
Thanks /co/

What do you guys listen to while reading, if anything. Looking for some recommendations.
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>>8793632
my local classical music station at low volume
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I have 80 gigs of music but I won't show you
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>>8793724
you are like a little baby

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Where greatest can be analogous to favorite given the subjectivity of the question. Or you can do a Top 10 list of greatest and favorite if you are able to create an objective list.
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All writers from philosphers to poets inclusive.
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Dostoevsky
Lao Tzu
Aurelius
Thoreau
Hemingway
Schopenhauer
Woolf
Berdyaev
Whitman
Proust
>2bh
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Homer, Aeschylus, Sophocles, Dostoevsky, Kierkegaard, Cervantes

who is the goat canadian author and why isn't it that groce feminazi atwood?

also, do you know of any other works with similar satire?
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>>8793585
george grant was super old-school and redpilled af for a canadian and i liked him. he doesn't seem to get much press these days

davies would be a good pick but he's establishment

if countries had civ-style /lit/ leaders it would probably be atwood for us right now. she's pretty cool

canadian humour is embarrassing to me. canada's time to shine will be after ww3 when we pick north america up from the ashes and rescue it from mad max cannibal primitivism. until then we're...
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>>8793585
Mordecai is the GOAT, followed closely by MacLennan.
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