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Whats a good biography about someone that overcame odds, or is inspiring. I was thinking maybe john adams by david mccullough, but do you guys know anything else?

Something that is motivating and makes you want to be a better person.
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really just anything about an inspiring historical (or contemporary) figure
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>David McCullough
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>>8355501

oh, sorry. is he not patrician enough for you guys? Did I just embarrass myself?

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I've been pronouncing 'Banal' as 'Anal' for the past 27 years of my life. Not once has any of my fellow colleagues thought to correct me on that.
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it's not said like that?
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>>8355372
You thought the B was silent? Dumb frogposter.
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>>8355375
First a is like the first a in banana. Second is like "all".

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are there any moby-dick type novels about the conquistadors or settlers?
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>>8355341
no
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Not that i know of, but if you like movies you could try watching Aguirre, the Wrath of God.
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>>8355341
Not that I know of, but you can watch Aguirre. Plus there's a conquistador play called something Sun something.

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I finished the very first rough manuscript of my novel. My main character is trapped in a basement for the first 350/500 pages. My publisher loves it and is talking about thos being worth a million bucks.

I have a bas feeling, I feel 'm plagiarizing, but I don't know from what. Inread a lot of stuff when I was beween 12-35 and then stopped.

I had this idea and built on it all the time, but what if I read it in some obscure shitty novel.

What stories do you know that habe the protagonist locked up in solitary for a long time? I already looked at...
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>>8355298
Praise Lord KEK! meme magic will ensure Lord Emperor Trump's becoming president.

Deus Vult, Build Wall, deport Mexicans
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>>8355298
are you high or do you simply not know how to type? i'd hate to be your editor.
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>>8355298
Ulilililililila of legend of the elemental masters fame wrote a book called the secret in the basement or something.

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Has anyone here ever read a book written by someone they disagree with for the sole purpose of getting to grips with an opposition argument?
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>>8355246
not for argument but the last thing i read was marx and i'm a >rightist
circlejerks a shit
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>>8355246
i don't, it's a huge mistake probably.
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I only read novels and I can't disagree with a novel.

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I'm about to start medical school with a view to eventually training as a medical psychoanalyst. Over the last year or so, I've read a good few entry level philosophy and psychoanalysis texts. However, I've never studied any humanities formally past secondary school English. So my question is, to those in humanities, is psychoanalysis still a popular concept in humanities? Does it still hold weight? Or is it for hacks who can't enter "real medicine" such as surgery etc.

Pic related
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>>8355238
>inb4 angry autistic STEM nerds
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>>8355245
Angry autistic STEM nerds I'm spending the next 6 year studying with
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>>8355238
I am not an actual psychologist but I have great interest in psychology. Psychoanalysis has been debunked and discredited.

>is a person living in the 21st century
>hasn't read this book yet

What's your excuse?
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>>8355230
I did read it.

I know you want a Butler/feminism-/pol/-tier bashing thread, but it's actually very, very good.
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>21 century
>still bothering with continentals
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>>8355230
http://www.catholicherald.co.uk/news/2016/08/03/pope-francis-its-terrible-children-taught-they-can-choose-gender/

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death of the author: yay or nay?
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>>8355223
I would like you to be dead for shitting up this board
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>>8355225
U_Death by deathicatio~
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>>8355225
why, what's wrong? you don't agree with barthes?

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>book ends in ad infinitum
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>book ends in et cetera et cetera
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>the last sentence is the opening one

how original, wow.
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>>8356621
>the last sentence is the books title
wew

Does it matter whether or I read the Odyssey or the Illiad first? I was going to read the Merril edition of it either way, but I also want to know what the most poetic and least "scholarly" translation of these works are, which is still respectful to the original work.
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>>8355095
Merrill is your guy.
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Yes, Iliad first.

Most poetic and least scholarly is Pope.
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Would definitely recommend reading the Iliad first. It gives context to the recurrent characters that also appears in the Odyssey, in what they are expressing, their lamentation, their fate etc.
Of course there are probably good annotated versions out there that supplies this information.

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For my philosophy course on Plato we will be reading the Meno, the Republic, the Timaueus, and the Theaetetus. My professor didn't request a specific edition, just something with line numbers. What should I get??
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>>8355093
start with the greeks
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>>8355101
Fuck off dumb memeposter
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>>8355093
Begin with the phoenecians

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I'm nearing the end of IJ and while it can at times be mentally draining and hard to read, I really like it.

Should I read this next?
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Yes and yes
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>>8355089

Pynchons my fav writer for sure because my fav thing in books is goofs, gags, jokes and rambunctious behavior, and his books are full to the brim of it. Every novel is like one of those novelty snake cans, you open the book & POP you get a face fulla snakes and you fall back cackling. The mad mind, the crack genius, to do it! and then you think hmmm whats he gonna do next, this trickster, and you pick the book back up and BZZZZZZZZZZ you get a shock and Hahahahahah you've been pranked again by the old...
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>>8355102

this comment shows how postmodernism is actually just an abortion of modernism that needs to end

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Is it true that all great writers are published by the age of 25?
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>DFW was 24 when Broom of the System was published
>Zadie Smith was 25 when White Teeth was published
>Marek Hlasko was 23 when Eighth Day of the Week was published
>F.S. Fitzgerald was 23 when This Side of Paradise was published
>Carson McCullers was 23 when The Heart is a Lonely Hunter was published
>Tao Lin was 24 when EEEEE EEE EEEE & Bed were published
>Italo...
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>Luna Miguel was 22 when Bluebird and Other Tattoos was published
>Luna Miguel was 23 when La tumba del marinero was published
>Nathaniel Hawthorne was 24 when Fanshawe was published
>Masuji Ibuse was 25 when Yu Hei was published
>Philip Pullman was 25 when The Haunted Storm was published
>Alice Hoffman was 25 when Property Of was published
>Aaron Sorking was...
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autism

I don't want this to turn into a contentious debate, even though I know that this is a contentious subject matter. I have never been able to understand how people could believe in god and subsequently follow a religion. I have just never felt that believing in god made any sense, and it seems so incredibly illogical to me, it's unfathomable how anyone could believe in something which I see as utter nonsense. Again, I'm not trying to be contentious here, I'm just trying to understand what it is about people that gives them these feelings, what makes them actually...
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You could have literally googled "arguments for the existence of a god" instead of shitposting, fucktarded tumblrcunt.
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>>8354996
Fuck off. At least make some dumb equivocal statement of a failed attempted at making a point instead of trying to drag the thread down and devolve it into an aimless nihilistic abyss.
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>>8354996
I'm not looking for arguments on the existence of god, I'm looking for why people believe in god, because there's literally nothing but bullshit equivocal arguments for the "existence of god". I'm looking for the psychological reason of how someone could be retarded enough to believe in god. Fuck your precious little dogmatic beliefs, destroy them, stop holding them in your hand, like a little piece of glass ornament that you can't stand to let shatter and drop on the ground. It isn't...
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Did I choose wisely?
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My gf loves Ken Follet.
She recently decided to break up with me without telling me. I'm supposed to still be her bf but she tells everyone she's single. What should I do, /lit/?

/blogpost
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>>8354911
Have not read either of them, but they look like decent books.

>>8355471
>Gf broke up with you without talking to you
If that's the case, she's exceptionally immature and of poor character. She's not worth anyone's time or emotions, move on.
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>>8355471

>She recently decided to break up with me without telling me

She's just immature, like the other anon said. Use this setback to make your character grow bigger, this is the best "comeback" you could ever hope to give her.

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Has anyone read works by Kawabata such as Thousand Cranes or Snow Country? What did you think about them, if you had.
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Kawabata is GOAT

superior to Mishima whom /lit/ memes largely because of politics/life as opposed to actually reading his books. not to say mishima isn't good.
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I thought a Thousand Cranes was a bit boring but still enjoyable

Snow Country is great
I liked the universe scene at the end
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>>8355576
Why compare them at all

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What's the darkest ending to a book that you've ever read?
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When the guy doesn't get the girl.
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When Mowgli left Baloo for some girl.
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A Boy and His Dog, I laughed though desu

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What are Shakespeare's best plays?
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>>8354873
Cardenio and Love's Labour's Won.
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Hamlet
Othello
Macbeth
King Lear
Henry IV
Henry V
Romeo and Juliet
The Tempest
A Midsummer Night''s Dream
Twelfth Night
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>>8354896
>Henry V
This tbqh
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-yZNMWFqvM

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Holy shit, this book is racist as fuck.

Fuck Lovecraft, Chesterton is the real deal.
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>>8354831
On the topic of lovecraft, I bought two books today:
The Dunwich horror
The call of Cthulhu and other weird stories.

Anyone read them before?
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>>8356035
Basically everyone.

His works are all public domain and freely available online.

I simply printed off the short stories of his I was overly fond of at the library and stapled them together.

Reading long blocks of text on a screen gives me eye-ache.
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>>8356057
I don't read very much. However I got a job last month and I've been paid so I don't feel like playing games as much when I get home. Also I wanted something to do during lunch so I bought some books.

Are they any good?
I assume so.

Also the call of Cthulhu is a really nice looking book.

How come nobody talks about the fact that Walt Whitman fucked underage boys and came on their faces?
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It's too much to type out one-handed
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So did Allen Ginsberg

The answer is that no one wants to talk about how flawed the idea of statutory rape is considering there are 14 year olds more mature and considerate than some adults will ever be in their lives and some people on the upper end of their 20s with the judgement of a child. I'm not saying fucking teenagers isnt a morally gray issue but it certainly is not the same thing as fucking children.
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>>8354763
The difference is Ginsberg was a hack who openly and proudly ripped off Whitman's schtick

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>tfw cant decide if i want to be a writer, a musician, or a painter
/art general/ board when?
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I like how your post seems to imply that being a writer, a musician, or a painter consists in frequenting the corresponding 4chan board
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>>8354593
Well are you actually good at any of those, or do you just assume it'll work out?
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>>8354593
Then be all of them

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I think you know what it is too, but I'd really be interested in your guess.
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ok I guess this board is so full of retards we can't come to any meaningful conclusions
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>>8354574
Cool, bye!
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Total surrender to God.

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What are your thoughts on this book? Favorite story?
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Pretty Mouth and Green my Eyes was my favorite I think. I'm a sucker for open endings. Although I think he just wanted to subvert our expectations instead of insinuating anything too sinister
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>>8354389
What's your interpretation of A perfect day for bananafish? I didn't get it.
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>>8354481
Seymours interaction with the girl was weird to be sure, but I thought the shock ending was the only thing to get. The story was purposefully kinda dull and strange to show how former soldiers couldn't fit back in with society after their experiences in war

What are some good, relatively short, books for a book club? Preferably ones that you could get through in a work week or two. Pretty much open to any genre
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>>8354351
Anthem by ayn Rand
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>>8354351
After Dark by Murakami
Metamorphosis
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>>8354351

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hey fugs. From /mu/ and want to start reading books.
What's some /lit/ recommended books to read?
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The greeks
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>>8354274
finnegans wake
my twisted world
infinite jest
critique of pure reason
fault in our stars
harry potter
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>>8354278 is memeing you but you deserve it since you're too retarded to even look at the sticky

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>had had
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>>8354258
Haha good bantz
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>>8354374
>>>/tv/

aussie scum bag
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>>8354258
I noticed Orwell doing this often in Homage to Catalonia. Got a little annoying after a while.

I don't understand why you would do this though. It's completely redundant.

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What do y'all think of this poem I wrote???

My brain is like the static on a TV.
I want to change the channel so that I can see
Something else besides static on the TV.

My parents told me
That one day I would be
Old enough to see
Something else besides static on the TV

They said it's something only grow ups can see.

I don't think I'm grown up
Because the ants still crawl on my TV set
And that fuzzy fog hasn't let up yet.
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Not a lot.
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It's bad
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>>8354249
I thought the first stanza to be promising. But the parents and growing up stuff sounds lame to be honest...

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>The office Halloween party was at the Royalton last week and I went as a mass murderer, complete with a sign painted on my back that read MASS MURDERER (which was decidedly lighter than the sandwich board I had constructed earlier that day that read DRILLER KILLER), and beneath those two words I had written in blood Yep, that’s me and the suit was also covered with blood, some of it fake, most of it real. In one fist I clenched a hank of Victoria Bell’s hair, and pinned next to my boutonniere (a small white rose) was a finger bone I’d boiled the...
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dude yuppies lmao
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Wtf I hate Manhattan now
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>though it does sporadically penetrate how unacceptable some of what I’m doing actually is, I just remind myself that this thing, this girl, this meat, is nothing, is shit


what did he MEEEEAAAAN by this?

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I love old school sci-fi, already read almost all Nebula award novels, and finally got to this.

I have never read a book more annoying to read than this one, holy fucking shit.

One sentence the MC is talking to some cyborg Asian chick the next hes running away from who knows what and by the end of the paragraph hes in a completely different place fantasizing about cocaine. The author dedicates most of the text to the aesthetic of the setting but does very little with it.

I'm 60 pages in, does it get better? I really want to like it but the way its written...
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>>8354220
I couldn't get past the first 5 pages
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>>8354220
I'm getting a lot out of it. you might just be paying attention to the "aesthetics" but It's got heart.
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neuromancer is one of my favorites, but it's primarily about style.

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Name a journalist/essayist as honest and epic as George Orwell.
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>>8354193
David Foster Wallace
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>>8354227
Different species of writer.

Orwell is the GOAT among political writers.
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>orwell
>honest
>"epic"

no (you)


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