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What are your top 5 Shakesmans?

1. Othello
2. Hamlet
3. King Lear
4. The Tempest
5. Twelfth Night
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>>8350950
antony and cleopatra and coriolanus are his best

hamlet is overrated
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>>8350950
>The Tempest

Why does this make your top 5? Besides Prospero, it has nothing to offer
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I'd have a better chance of understanding a book in ancient Chinese than comprehending the work of Shakespear.

You may call me a pleb, but I call you a pretentious tryhard.

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What are the most notable Mary Sue characters that you have read of in books?

>ignore frogpost
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>>8350943
Characters who act irrational, are self-centered, have powers they don't deserve or never knew they had until that single moment, have not so subtle names, thinks the world revolves around them. Etc, Etc
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>>8350953
I forgot to mention that in the end of it all, everything goes their way even if it shouldn't be possible.
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The protagonist in the recent Star Wars flick. I forgot her name.

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Hi there, this is my first visit to this board.

I am going backpacking across europe tomorrow, and I'd like to fill up my kindle with some essential books recommended by you guys. I went through the catalog and browsed the board first however I'm not really sure where to start.

I know you may be wincing at the very mention of a kindle, however logistically it's unpractical to bring heavy books with me.

So /lit/ could you recommend me some essential books to read? I'm a final year history student with wide-ranging interests.

Thanks,...
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Sorry I just noticed the recommended reading on the sticky.

Apologies.
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the sun also rises
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>>8350928

?

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What are the most dream like books?
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>>8350870
finnegans wake
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Anything by Italo Calvino, especially Invisible Cities
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Contes de la bécasse
Short stories by Kafka
The House on the Borderland
Dagon by Lovecraft
The Tempest
>we are such stuff as dreams are made on

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What did he mean by this?
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>>8350806
>tfw I read philosophy books for material for my novels.
I'll misinterpret or go for the most colourful and superficial aspects and nobody can stop me.
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You gotta exist.
But when you exist you just wanna shit all over everything cuz it's there for you.
But then you realize there's other people in the world who don't like being shit on.
You're also someone who can be shit on and you certainly don't like that.
What if there's more to the world than just all this shit?
What if this shit only exists because you exist?
What if that's just as good as being in charge of all this shit?
Actually, inside you is a world of shit that goes deeper than all that shit.
But that...
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>>8350826
>i write novels
haha loser

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I had a dream this faggot was chasing me and this chick from my class through the university halls and into the bathroom with a shotgun. This is the first time I've ever had a literary dream. It scared the living fuck out of me so much that I remember every single detail which is rare for me when it comes to dreams.

Share your /lit/ dreams. Memes allowed.
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I dreamed a tall glass of cold iced tea that beaded into dew on outside and rolled down my forearm darkening my jeans where they fell.

I pitched it into the grass, spat, whipped my forehead, and dreamed on.
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Last night I had a dream about living in Amsterdam. On my way to the gym, I heard there was a serious threat for an ISIS attack, but decided to go anyway. When I arrived the gym was closed, everything was closed. The only people on the street were curious about the ISIS terrorists and were looking for them, sticking their necks out on every corner. Suddenly, on a street next to a canal, I see two huge black muslims pulling out kalashnikovs. They start shooting everyone in sight, including me.

Then, I woke up. I had been reading Submission before going to bed.
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I dreamed that I was comforting some sort of feminine figure who had been sexually assaulted but then I got really horny and started dry humping it which made it cry more then I felt really bad about it.

What are the essential readings in Mormon theology?
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>>8350724
Paradise Loft.
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>>8350724
I wouldn't know but i'm sure "How to think critically and make adult decisions" isn't on the list.
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>>8350724
The Book of Mormon contains all you need to know in order to obtain salvation.

Highly recommended supplements include the King James Bible, The Doctrine and Covenants, and The Pearl of Great Price.

>>8350786
Mormons are significantly more successful financially than the general population and have a high degree of satisfaction with their personal relationships. Also disproportionately found in positions of influence.

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What was your yearbook quote, /lit/?
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AND I KNOW THE PIECES FIT AND I KNOW THE PIECES FIIIIITTTTTTTTTTT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! DUNDUNDUN LUNDUN DULUDUN DULUDUN
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>>8350709
'You are looking at a photograph of me'.

Literally.
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>>8350725
their best song tbqh family

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So /lit/

I'm going to read this.

Roast me.
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>>8350675
probably a waste of time unless you're seriously interested in marx/historical materialism for academic rather than personal reasons
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you're gonna drop it in less than 50 pages anyway
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>>8350678

It is primarily an academic venture.

I want to use it to antagonize leftists.

Not by disproving, but by using his concepts to lead to contrary conclusions.

Also curious to see if I can rehabilitate it to a rightist perspective. Nick Land did, so.

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Best monologue written by Shakespeare?

Soliloquies count too.

For me it's the opening to Richard III, but that's probably just because all the actors who've performed it have tended to be really good ones.
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Do Edgar's last lines in Lear count?
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>>8350595
>saying anything but the intro monologue to Julius Caesar

Plebs
The lot of you
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>>8350606

Fuck yeah they do

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What's a good book that I can read by him?
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>>8350482
sucking penis lick assing hoiel he's gay hahhhf
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After the Banquet if you don't like violent young men.

Kinkakuji or Gogo no eikou if you do.
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any of them

I started with Confessions of a Mask

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Is /s4s/ the logical conclusion to literature?
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>>8350466
No
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>>8350466
No, it is the beginning. Soon literature will become 100% memes. Then those memes will evolve into meta memes and so forth.
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yes

also it's [s4s] dweeb!! XD

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Ok /Lit/, what is the first book you personally would recommend a person should read trying to get into philosophy.
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the bible. you can engage with philosophy but you must not take it at any value other than satan's trick. it will not save you
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>>8350427

can you actually talk like a person or is fedora your only speed
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>>8350432
god gave us his word! hallelujah

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I hate taking 6 months to write 45 thousand words.

My dream is to shit-write a novel every month so my chances of getting a hit multiply by 6.

How do I into writing faster, /lit/? I have countless ideas for novels but I just take way too long with my writing. My dream is to write a 800 pages master piece to explain human experience but that'd take me 5 years in my current pace.

What should I do?
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>>8350400
nanowrimo
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>>8350400
Why is your writing to slow to begin with? Most slow writers write slow because they're perfectionists. If this is the case, then you just have to convince yourself that the first draft of anything you write is going to be shit. That way, you can just write and write without worrying about whether it sucks or not, because it's supposed to.

But different people have different creative styles. personally, i like to put my work through at least seven drafts, so an ~80,000 word book is currently taking...
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>>8350400
I'm interested in hearing your thoughts on the human experience.

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Alright I bet if you went to a public school you might have a similar problem to mine.

In high school a teacher forbade us from ever and I mean EVER using "dead verbs":
>am
>are
>be
>had
>has
>becomes
>have
>is
>was
>were
so much so...
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>>8350399
>if this is a legitimate thing
it isn't
hope your sophomore year works out better for you, bud
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>>8350399
When and where did you go to high school? I went to a public high school 7 years ago and I never even heard of any teacher doing something that retarded.
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>>8350479
Class of 2015 Colorado. I was first taught not to use them in middle school, and was then pressured even further as a hs senior

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What does /lit/ think of William Gaddis?
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>>8350390
One of the absolute greatest authors of all time. It's a damn shame it took so long for that to be acknowledged and an even bigger one that he's still criminally underread now.
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>>8350405
What makes him so great?
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>>8350410

he uses words real good like

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How do we fix highschool English so it stops producing plebs?
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We could stop teaching symbolism, as if that were the be-all, end-all of literary meaning, for one.
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Remove all YA fiction, start teaching philosophy and theology again, also latin and greek. Oh that won't happen, well guess we're stuck with plebs.
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>government schools
>ever producing anything other than plebs and drones

Have you read this book?

Is there anything to learn from it or is it a complete waste of time?
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overrated unless you're 15 and beginning to smoke pot

at least download and not buy it

try illuminatus! and cosmic trigger instead
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Both!

either/or
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>>8350139

>either/or

i agree anon he should read kierkegaard instead

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ITT: writers that browse /lit/
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>>8350094
Are you a boy or a girl

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I just started reading this and I don't know what the fuck is going on. This is considered 'the great American novel??'

The dialogue doesn't even make any sense.
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>>8349953
Wow, I also started it and am on chapter 8. It is kind of confusing but I already find it funny so I don't care. Just re-read parts if you confused
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>>8349953
Post the dialogue that you can't understand
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>>8349953
u ret would never be able to read joyce

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Does anyone want to debate?

I think the moral functions of texts are just as important as the aesthetic ones.

I.e. literature as social justice.
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>>8349862
Agreed. Art for the sake of aesthetics is pointless and empty, and hardly worth being called art in the first place. It needs to make a point, or lead you to some higher or altered understanding.
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>>8349896

All art is quite useless. We've known about this for centuries. If art serves a purpose outside of its own existence it is nothing more than a tool.
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>>8349862
I don't believe in the existence of morals so I see nothing to debate, sorry

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this is the most /lit movie of all time.
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I watched it with my ex-girlfriend.
She dozed off.
Most /lit/ movie confirmed.
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>>8351278
Why can't women understand anything that isn't shallow ephemeral gossip?
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>>8351278
weird I watched it with mine and she says she hates war movies. yet when the guy gets the letter from his wife saying she found someone else my gf is balling her eyes out. then she cried when the young kid died close to the end. then she fucking cried during pic related. I thought you don't like war movies bitch.

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>age
>location
>book you're currently reading and how do you like it
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u first
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>>8349789
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center of the universe, Toronto Ontario Canada
J R it's flipping loltasticore
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>18
>Viña del Mar, Chile (aka Hell)
>Dubliners by James 'le thesaurus man' Joyce
>mfw

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What do you do with the books you've read? Do you hold on to them forever (do you re-read often?) Do you throw them away? Sell them to used bookstores? Burn them for warmth? I usually discard them via pic related. Is that bad? Am I robbing the authors of potential sales?
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I like to keep my books. My office doubles as a library. I loan books out to friends and use them for reference.
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>>8349545
Whenever I see these they're always filled with shit
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>>8349583

Same. Though I have picked up a number of good books from cardboard boxes with "free" written on them.

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Is Borges the most /lit/ writer?
>autistic as fuck
>awkward with women
>contrarian as fuck
>all of his work is retarded fanfic meta wank and referencing completely obscure events and characters
>DUDE I'M SMARTER THAN YOU LMAO
>fuck fascism
>fuck communism
>fuck literally everything other than my own little snowflake mindset
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kys
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You say that like it's a negative thing.
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>>8349452
Someone seems to be triggered.

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Post what you've picked up from your favourite bookstores /lit/

Rate, hate, rec, whatever

Pic related, I bought the pile on the right for around 20€ this afternoon
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>>8349252
I'm fully aware that those are all classics and thus highly unoriginal, but I was happy enough to find books in English, not a common sight in used bookstores here.
Don't refrain from showing more exciting findings
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Where's "here"? Romania? Poland? What?
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>>8349252
found all these folio society books for $4 each at a used books store. I just bought "Great Short Stories" though I was tempted to also buy the poetry anthology.

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In "Brave new world" by Aldous Huxley:
The savage really killed Lennina?
Bernad was a cuck?
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>>8349195
>cuck

go away
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>>8349195
0/10 shitpost but good thread

Anyone know where I can get Maude's work on Dosto and Tolstoy online for free in pdf, MOBI, or ePub? Also i have P&V and Garnetts copies of most of either their important works, who's should i read if i can't get Maude's
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>>8349198
lmao you buttmad cuck?
Got the Sanders donation refunds yet?
Crushing white-hetero-patriarchy by letting you girlfriend sleep around anon?

Indistinguishable from Magic edition

What's your favorite example of hyper-advanced, almost godlike technology in SFF?

Recommendations:
>Fantasy
Selected: http://i.imgur.com/r688cPe.jpg/
General: http://i.imgur.com/igBYngL.jpg/
Flowchart: http://i.imgur.com/uykqKJn.jpg/
>Sci-Fi
Selected: http://i.imgur.com/A96mTQX.jpg/
General: http://i.imgur.com/r55ODlL.jpg/ http://i.imgur.com/gNTrDmc.jpg/

Previously: >>8338132
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Sanderson is GOAT
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>>8349030
Are people who like Sanderson retarded?
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>Ligotti will never write an epic high fantasy horror series

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Delving into modern philosophy has left me fairly disoriented and depressed, and I've realized the effect it's had on me on the past year or so. I am very indecisive in what I do, and I feel very weak and confused. I have stopped reading as much as I used to, and I continuously feel I have to re-evaluate my life goals.

I am tempted to make a pragmatic decision and attempt to delude myself into accepting axioms that will lead me to work hard, simply by not thinking about those axioms, like a kind of pseudo-mysticism/pseudo-religion. Is this an ok idea? I'm...
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>>8348997
Its sounds like you caught a case of growingupism. The best thing to do is to keep posting here and drastically reduce social contact, you don't want to be influenced by outsiders
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>>8348997
This happened to me.

I solved this by getting a job.
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>>8349012
>>8349012

I don't understand, what do you mean? Growingupism? I sense sarcasm in the second sentence, haha

>>8349014

I actually have the privilege of interning somewhere this summer, but the 8 hour grind ends up intensifying these feelings ironically

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>10+ short story collections, 10+ novels of varying lengths, and 1000+ poems and still not published

Prove to me that you're any better than this guy. Maybe then I'll believe your novel will go somewhere.
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>>8348890
Dan "The Clit Divider' Schneider?
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>>8348890
He's unpublished because he's a delusional psycho with a persecution complex. There's nothing to prove.
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I'm not quite as delusional.


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