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After starving for several hours, my roommate and I heated up some leftovers for lunch this afternoon and, because they weren't fresh, they tasted like shit.

The roommate wouldn't stop complaining and after a while I said, dryly, "We should be grateful that we have food at all." It was a dumb joke.

But that's the thing. I meant it as a joke, but I do actually believe the content of the message. Is there a word or phrase for this kind of dissonance?
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>>8344911
Being a faggot.
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>>8344911
If he took it as a joke as well then it was a prime example of post-post-irony
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No, you were simply telling a joke, one which you happened to believe. If you said it only with the intent of making your roommate laugh. Were you subconsciously annoyed about his complaining?

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has /lit/ read this yet
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>>8344702
I gave up after the worms in the ass line.
Somehow peeing on a little boy was more bearable than that.
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>>8344702
Should I read Dhalgren before or after this?
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>>8344702
I read like 20 pages of it and I was really bored with it because it's just nasty porn.

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>book has over 100,000 ratings on Goodreads™
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If I'm not the first person to read it, it's not worth my time.
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>>8344894
I think this is a strawman ... am I right??
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>>8344901
i like to read supersekret esoteric stuff to make myself feel smug

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Requesting books about modern Islam and its troubles. Hopefully sarcastic stuff.
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Read Why I Am Not A Muslim by Ibn Warraq.

If you want fiction though, read Submission by Houllebecq.
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>>8344655
>thinking modern Islam has any trouble

Nice meme
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sam "circular reasoning" harris

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>tfw a word has the perfect sonority for what you want to express but doesn't mean that at all
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Use it anyway. Why not?
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>>8344570
Very quirky post, my friend. Upvoted.
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>>8344570
>when it's also the only rhyme you can think of

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>tfw you buy a nice bound notebook so you can write down your thoughts/musings as they come to you and then you realize that none of your thoughts are worth preserving
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I write mine to my raspi. It feels like a secret journal with a 20 character password.
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>>8344458
i know tf
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>>8344748
Yep. Me too (three?).

how do i write jokes
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>>8344429
Knock knock
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your autobiography would be a good joke
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>>8344439
You ruined my joke m8.

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Why is Tao Lin allowed to say this ? The entire thing actually happened and there are videos of him and Megan Boyle having conversations that appear in the novel.
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>>8344417
who cares, honestly
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>>8344417
>giving Tao Lin money
Why?
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>>8344417
"Megan Boyle" is Tao's drag name. Those videos were faked.

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Whats a good intro to analytic philosophy?
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>>8344353
'An Introduction to Analytic Philosophy'
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>>8344353
The Greeks.

Somebody post those charts on analytic philosophy
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>>8344353
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1YrXfvjz4NCyLlob9bo_N9fpoYB-saCTbLoGP5TctJTs/edit

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>tfw reading novellas and short novels to pad my goodreads shelf size
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Being proud and smug about utterly taking to heart the quantitative bias of social media imbricated with a rootless, aimless, universal competition.
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you sneaky sneak
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>>8344334
nothing wrong with the gamification of reading

you're just mad I'm a more worldly person from all the books I've read

was he ever jealous of actors who got famous performing his work? I assume he didn't really see much fame while he was alive
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Did actors get that famous back then? Not saying they didn't I just want to know.
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>>8344287
>>8344298
No, actors didn't get famous, people appreciated the playwrights more back then
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>>8344287
He was an actor himself

What books encapsulate that feeling of feeling like you're the only one who feels a certain way? I am currently reading 1984 and I previously read The Catcher In The Rye, they both have themes of profound alienation and isolation. I like that, but also, there's not really anything that unusual about them, besides the contrast between their perspectives of the world and those around them.

If you'd allow me to go on a little rant, I feel this way all the time, that's why I'm so interested in such a book. In a sort of vague way, I feel so many parallels in my life to the life that Winston lives in 1984, just without the fear of being killed for my thoughts. . I feel so depressed that I have to live among other humans, it seems to me like they're all empty minded simpletons whenever I look around, then I think about the superficiality and uselessness of all of the information that I'm able to process. I don't mean to sound conceited, even though I guess I am, I really believe that I don't know how to enjoy living in a world where I never fit in in the first place.

I don't feel compatible with this planet, although I feel I have my own structured idea of what the world should be and what my ideal world would be. I'm not depressed and suicidal, I'm more of an idealist who's starved of any sort of satisfaction, and indeed it's left me with a deep seated resentment and dissatisfaction with life. Most of the time I'm just bombarded with thoughts of how much I hate myself, because of how my thoughts have betrayed me, how they've misguided me into saying something regrettable. That's one way I really relate to winston, is that I feel that my own thoughts betray me, in the foray of existence I'm forced, by any principles of living for the sake of living, to live through.
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>>8344165
Sabbath's Theater is brilliant
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>>8344276
Doesn't look like the kind of book I'm looking for.
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Joyce Carol Oates. Pick anything.

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Why do you act as if he wasn't a big deal?
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>>8344095
Cause he only had postum credit?
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He spawned a genre with no literary merit. It's like trying to respect the world's greatest polka band.
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Writers like Poe, Lovecraft, Swift, and Arthur Conan Doyle are what YA literature should be.

Found this OC on my Facebook feed today.

1/2
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>>8344094
2/2
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>>8344094
The most cringeworthy thing about your post is your (impotent) pathological compulsion to create a circlejerk thread where other people validate you in your ostensibly superior taste and literary sensibility.
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>>8344110
/thread

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DUDE PUBLIC DISGRACES LMAO

also who /smerdyakov/ here?
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>>8344065
We have now reached a stage where people -- like you, OP -- communicate entirely in memes.

Did you even notice this while typing out your inane post?
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>>8344081
It's glue. You're the fly.

Congrats.
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Dmitri is innocent

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>18
>at gfs house
>she has uber Christian family, I'm her first ever boyfriend
>her four siblings keep walking through the room while we watch a movie
>while the room is empty she takes my hand and moves it to her breast
>I begin to fondle her
>she moans softly and starts breathing quickly and deeply
>moves her hand onto...
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>>8344056

I enjoyed it, but found it a bit too boy-fantasy like. In terms of spanish civil war lit, it has absolutely nothing on Homage to Catalonia.
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>>8344067
>homage to Catalonia
>Spanish anything
>even once
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>>8344056
The obscenitying in the milk was really obscenitying distracting.

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What's some manly literature? What book would turn one into a man? Recommend me some manly authors or books. Also discuss manly authors/books.
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>>8343985
james ellroy, hemmmmmmmingwaye
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>>8343985
- Testosterone.
- Chromosome.
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>>8343985
What constitutes manliness?

Farting and spitting? Hemingway maybe.

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In your opinion what is the best book ever written.
Give at least one reason
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>>8343964
Gravity's Rainbow

Because there are a lot of popculture references which I think is the highest form of art. Practically like memes.
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>>8343974
Infinite Jest


Because there are a lot of popculture references which I think is the highest form of art. Practically like memes
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>>8343964
My diary desu

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Hey /lit/, what book prizes are worth respecting, if any?
Also where do you go, other than here for information/criticism on new lit?
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>other than here

JAMES JOYCE FART DAVID FOSTER WALLAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACE
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>>8343934
1. All book prizes have been politicized
2. The ruling ideology is cultural marxism
3. all book prize winners are selected by cultural marxists
4. all cultural marxists want to promote cultural marxism
5. all book prize winners are cultural marxists selected by cultural marxists


This is why you see so many women and nonwhites win these days.
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>>8343958
Yeah man. Zadie Smith haha. Total cultural marxism bro.

when did you realize there are less than 50 worthwhile authors
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Spoken like a true summer idiot.
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And you pulled the number out of?
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>>8343845
>less than 50

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What is the nature of consciousness, /lit/?
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Existence precedes essence
We all have a void inside of us and this void is a fragment of God
Then a bunch of meat
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>>8343816
ask on /sci/ where actual scientists and rational people are browsing, instead of a bunch of nu-male liberal arts leftist dialectical-"""thinking""" continental swine.
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>>8343827

> Ask on a place where everyone will give the same answer
> An answer you already know
> An answer that's actually quite vague and useless

A pregnant woman leading a group of people out of a cave on a coast is stuck in the mouth of that cave. In a short time high tide will be upon them, and unless she is unstuck, they will all be drowned except the woman, whose head is out of the cave. Fortunately, (or unfortunately,) someone has with him a stick of dynamite. There seems no way to get the pregnant woman loose without using the dynamite which will inevitably kill her; but if they do not use it everyone will drown. What should they do?
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>>8343733
How pregnant is she?
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>>8343733
>should

spooky

Anyways, I'd blow that fat bitch the fuck up, I ain't dying in no damn cave
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They should read a book.

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hey so like, what's the deal with The Stranger by camus. let's discuss it ay.
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It was the sun.
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Shit album.
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Shit album
Shit band
The shittest of Shakespeare's plays

The Stranger has been done to death. It's not as deep as everyone seems to think it is. It's a novelised format for Camus's philosophy which is relatively simple and which you can find better more expansive version written in The Myth of Sisyphus, the benefit of which is it actually offers a solution for the malaise that Meursault suffers from

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Hey /lit/ I wrote a shitty poem about being a manlet tell me what you think.
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>>8343638
I'm thinking it include enough homoerotic lyricism about the guy I wish I was as big as.
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>>8343638
Too short.
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>>8343638
What are your initials? I swear to god I recognise that handwriting.

How important is for a writer to live in an environment were art and culture are everywhere? To what extent does the location (city, town, country) in which a writer is can affect his or her craft?

Also, can the location affect the overall quality of some writer's work? By exposing him or her to much more culturally rich environments, can the surroundings inspire greater works? Of course, I'm not saying that you NEED to experience this type of environments to be a good writer, I'm asking your opinion whether it helps a lot to inspire writer, or does it...
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very difficult. you will never become a writer if you are from working class family, have bad (ie american) education and you care about writing since reading few /lit/ thread
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>>8343599

Lrn 2 internet srsly...

Also find out the cultural social and natural beauty your environment has to offer
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>>8343706
>Lrn 2 internet srsly...

que

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What are some good reads to get into communism in general?
The Engels/Marx stuff is awefully outdated.
Germanfag btw.
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Cohen's defense of historical materialism is good stuff, although he gave up on it.
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>>8343547
Why would you want to get into a shitty form of goverment that can never work?

inb4 >>>/pol/
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>>8343863
Just because its shitty does not mean it is not interesting.
Recently read the wiki article on Red Army Fraction (RAF) and now I want to know what made those fuckers go bananas.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Army_Faction

Hold my hand in yours and guide me senpai.
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>>8343540
Buy a computer.
Preferably a Mac.
Go to a coffee shop
Type nonsense
???
You get the rest.
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Study Narratology

Narratology
narratology.info/narratology/

Narratology is the study of the forms, structures, media, functions, and evolution of narrative, with a special emphasis on Story.

On one end of the narrative spectrum lies a mere representational sequence of events that may or may not have a beginning, middle, and end (an Arc). At the opposite end lies Story, with an Arc, an indivisible and universal structural pattern called a Narreme, and meaning over and beyond the mere representational (a Theme).

Story = Arc+Narreme+Theme

General...
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The Art of Storytelling

http://www.thegreatcourses.com/courses/the-art-of-storytelling-from-parents-to-professionals.html

Dr. Hannah B. Harvey is an award-winning professor, an internationally recognized performer, and a nationally known professional storyteller.

There are many reasons we relate and respond to stories

Professor Harvey calls the act of creating a story performance an “alchemical process” that involves an interconnected cycle of talking, writing, imaging, playing, and rehearsing

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hol up
What's even the point of being a patrician e/lit/ist if you have no friends or gf to see your bookshelf or listen to your literary references?
Are you even a patrician if noone's there to see you ?
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flexxing at uni
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>why do you masturbate if no one can see you? What's the point of masturbating if you have no friends or a gf that can see the spunk coming out of your dick?
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/lit/ is for the discussion of literature, specifically books (fiction & non-fiction), short stories, poetry, creative writing, etc.
Which part was too difficult to understand ?
Nobody gives a fuck about whats on your shelf

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Is this any good or should I just buy them separately?
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>>8343474
Of mice and men is the only one I've read. It's ok.
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>>8343474
I've read the Pearl and of Mice and Men, both were solid. Steinbeck is a great writer, I'd encourage you to pick up the whole collection
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They're all great novels imo, and that book itself is pretty high quality for a decent price


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