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How does a writer decide which form suits him best? Or at least which form/s to focus on

One minute I'm think I definitely want to write poems, but then I read a great short story and I think oh I can't ignore this form, then I read a novel and the same thing happens.

Are there any great writers who really were jack of all trades?

Most seem to be best at one form
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>>8792216
Maybe you should try actually writing and see how it goes.
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One thing that usually helps them decide is realising that it's current year and poetry is dead and buried as an art form.
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Do what feels natural.

If it doesn't feel natural, keep writing, trying different things until it does.

If it never feels natural, take up theater or some shit.

>Are there any great writers who really were jack of all trades?

No. They all had weaknesses, but they were great because they stuck to their strengths.

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>The celebrated academic Harold Bloom is a lightning fast reader; blink and he's probably turned the page – twice. In his prime he could churn through 1,000 pages an hour.
>https://www.theguardian.com/books/booksblog/2009/dec/14/you-can-t-speed-read-literature

Does /lit/ really believe this bullshit?
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>Tai Lopez can churn through a book a day

Does /lit/ really believe this bullshit?
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>1000 pages in an hour
Impossible to do with any real analysis unless the jew is a fucking supercomputer.
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Yeah I belive

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The path where the four roads meet

youtu.be/eGlnBUYpnBo
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Quadrivium

The word is Latin, meaning "the four ways" (or a "place where four roads meet")
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Symbols of Hermes were the palm tree
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...the number four...

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Your favorite channels on YouTube for literature analysis?
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"Hi, I'm John Green and this is Crash Course Literature."
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Why youtube specifically?
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>>8792115
Because the free market sucks at producing quality amateur analyses.

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>he uses semicolons
Dropped.
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I saw OP; he was a faggot.
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>>8792039
I use semi-colons; what are you going to do about it?
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>>8792049
this is wrong you faggot

How does one become a poet? I get it, write poetry and be good at it, but let's say an individual has a bunch of work that he'd like published, what next?

Don't most publishers just reject people because they aren't famous classical poets? It's like in the art music scene where people don't really care about hosting your piano recital if you're doing original music. People want the big names of old.
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I guess by being a semi-attractive mexican female drug addict who pretends to be a feminist.
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>>8792018


Or say you're trans
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>>8792007
Bump

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What do you do when you have read so much philosophy books that you start finding flaws in literally every ideology in existence? What do you believe in?
I feel like I need something to believe in in order to not spiral into depression, how do I fill the gap?
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>>8791990
>so much philosophy books
This is a board about proper English.
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many who are religious have gone through this, man made ideology is doomed
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>>8791990
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KBjblKtj1ag

Which authors have a good sense of humour? Vonnegut and Kharms already on my list.
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Ayn Rand. Excellent satire.
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Literally every Irish author.
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>>8791756
Flann O'Brien

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To Kill a Mockingbird and Huckleberry Finn have been suspended from Virginia schools. What are your opinions on this.

Source: http://abc11.com/education/to-kill-a-mockingbird-huck-finn-suspended-in-va-schools/1636300/
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>libcuck propaganda banned
good news
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>>8791737
apparently the best way to deal with the social/racial issues in this country is to simply pretend that they didn't happen and just sweep them under the rug. these people are absolutely ignorant.
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Retarded. Not that teaching something else for a change would be a bad thing, but still reatrded.

Any readers here of Oscar Wilde?
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I thought he was a little pretentious. Tried reading Dorian Gray, couldn't get into although I hear the ending pays off. Also tried reading his essay about an "artist as a critic" or something. Also pretentious.
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I enjoyed reading his fairy tales. .
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>>8791810
Being pretensious was his essence imo. He was the definition of dandy,in an era where it was accepted to be so. It would be pretensious if he acted lile that today working at a minimum wage job. It's all about context

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let's start one of these meme trash threads
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>>8791626
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>>8791626
dumping what i got

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Why is it that all the best philosophers throughout history have also been mathematicians, physicists, and geometers? Aristotle, Descartes, Leibniz, Newton, all mixed metaphysics with natural sciences and abstract math. Can one have a deep understanding of philosophy without jointly studying the sciences?
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there is a lot of great philosophers who weren't arithmeticians so yes
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>>8791622
What did Newton and Leibniz contribute to philosophy that you would place them among the best philosophers in history?
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>>8791698
this also bothered me, he's probably a stemfag

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Can lyrics stand alone as poetry, or do you need to factor that lyrics were written with the intention of being couple with music?
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It depends on the set of lyrics. Most of Townes Van Zandt's songs stand up on paper but he's an exception in that regard.
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>>8791598
I don't understand what this question means.
There's a ton of shit poetry out there, its not exactly a strict category
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They can be.

What makes it difficult is that what a lot of people, myself included, consider good lyrics are often good because of what is going on with the music. Stripped of that, and read as poetry, they lose some of their effect.

But it's possible to have both, I'm sure.

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>he doesn't read Arabian books
>he's missing out on real /lit/erature
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>>8791564
i do though
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Nobody cares, Abu
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>>8791564
But I do, I've read Cities of Salt, was pretty good

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How come it's so hard to come by poetry books when buying second hand ?

Is it because people tend to 'never end reading' poetry books but just read through novels and throw them away / sell them?
Maybe it's just Spain is a shitty country (which indeed is)
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>>8791471
Because hardly any people buy poetry books to begin with, and those who do are less likely to part with their books.
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>>8791478
this, poetry rewards rereading in a way even the best novels frequently fail to do.
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>>8791482
Thats not what I said at all

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRSe2LODPNg
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>>8791458
reading it out loud is the first big step
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How did you learn to appreciate prose?
Do the same thing
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>>8791458
by reading it

4chanlit.wikia.com/poetry

how are the Stephen hawking books /lit/?
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>>8791388
I rad A Brief History of Time in high school, when I thought I wanted to be a physicist. It's technical heavy, but if you put in the effort, and keep up with the glossary in the back, you don't have to be too smart to understand it.

I enjoyed it.
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He addresses the layman well.
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If you want to have complex scientific ideas explained to you in the most condescensding manner, with kiddie pictures, go ahead.
Otherwise pick an actual textbook

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do any of you guys actually keep a diary desu
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Thinking about starting one for any trips that I go on
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>>8791301
My posts are my diary. My bantz are my soul.
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>>8791301
Yes. I mostly fill it with engineering ideas and notes on articles read throughout the day. Sometimes I write about society and how people relate to each other.

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Who are some good swedish authors?
>inb4 memes
I know it's tempting but please don't
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Mikael Niemi
Lars Andersson
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August Strindberg
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Stig Dagerman is ok

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What do I expect from this?
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>>8791228
It's great. It's great. It's great. Leo Tolstoy is a genius author. Leo Tolstoy is a genius author. Leo Tolstoy is a genius author. You must be smart if you're reading War & Peace. You must be s
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>>8791228

Expect not to get much out of it because your autism severely injures your sense of empathy, so Tolstoy's inclusive love of humanity will be lost on you.
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>>8791239
What would you recommend instead?

no bully pls

Why do we fellate this old Jew?
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>>8791162
We need some kind of superior who validates our lifestyle choice of only reading the least accessible books.
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>>8791172
this
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>>8791162

>lives the /lit/ life
>incredibly well read
>memorizes all the great poems and great prose passages
>against SJWs
>against pleb lit
>likes the good 2/3s of the meme trilogy
>has sex with his students
>scared David Duchovny out of studying lit which got him into...
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Anyone else read pic related? Has it helped you through rough times in your life?
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>>8791122
It sounds like an argument for Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs with self-actualization at the top. You're probably better off reading about Maslow's theory on a website that can provide you with a more succinct argument.
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>>8791122
I'm a few dozen pages in.
I hope it can.
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>>8791147
>You're probably better off reading about Maslow's theory on a website that can provide you with a more succinct argument.
That's boring as fuck with no personality.

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The Odyssey and the Iliad by Homer (~12th - ~8th century BCE)
Major Plays of Aeschylus (456 BCE)
Major Plays of Sophocles (406 BCE)
The Holy Bible (~8th century BCE - 1st century CE)
Genesis
Exodus
Daniel
Ecclesiastes
Job
Psalms
Romans
Gospels (Matthew, Mark, John, Luke)
Revelation
Apocrypha
The Aeneid by Virgil (19 BCE)
The Divine Comedy by Dante (1307)
Don Quixiote by Miguel de Cervantes (1605)
The Complete Works of William Shakespeare (1616)
Paradise Lost by John Milton (1667)
Faust (Part I and II) by Johann...
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From that list: Homer, Divine Comedy, some Shakesman, Onegin (entire Pushkin, really), Moby Dick, C&P, Karenina, entire Borges.

I don't care about 30 different Bibles, and why the fuck would I bother reading translated greek and roman poetry (inb4 learn these meme languages), at least put Plato here
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>>8790953
>Zettels Traum
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>>8790953

All

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HOW DO I COME UP WITH A HIGH CONCEPT CONTEMPORARY YA STORY IDEA
I'M TIRED
EVERYTHING HAS BEEN DONE
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>how
Be somewhat talented
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>>8790758
Not everything has been done.

Don't be afraid to go beyond. That's the best advice I can give.
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Literary Innovation...try that :)

You now realise that all philosophical values are rendered meaningless by the impermanence of our universe.
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>>8790753
>believing STEMtards

The Universe is infinite, its ontologically necessary for it to exist in the first place
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>implying that doesn't apply to everything and not just philosophy

>implying existence doesn't echo onward into eternity in some form

>implying this is the only universe

>implying you know shit
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>>8790756

This.

There are pockets of existence and pockets of destruction/nothingness. Kind of like a cosmic beehive structure. But yes, ultimately infinite and eternal. If people had more than just a sci-pop understanding and looked a little deeper into the subject they'd know this. In Inflationary theory our universe is just a little bubble of spacial expansion in an infinite sea of inflationary space.

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>writing cyberpunk short story
>trying to describe virtual world/mmo pvp scene
So I want to both make it so that normies can visualize it without going full autist mode and describing every single detail like a comic book
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cringe
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Read some of Ulillilia's book for reference. :)
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>>8790715
it's way less autistic than it sounds, this is a relatively minor scene. Which is why it's hard. I don't want to devote too much of the text to it, but I want it to be clear

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Is Ignatius gay or just an extreme beta?

He is called a queer and maricon, and the pirate costume only adds to him being homosexual, but he doesn't mix well with the Sodomites and seems to be interested in the nude picture of Lana, although it may have been just for Boethuis, but then again he does tell his Mother that is interested in Miss Trixie.

There come be something with the valve that I'm overlooking...
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He'd probably fap to traps but be otherwise heterosexual.
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>>8790652
toole was gay
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>>8790690
I suspected that he might be closted since he had a few gfs that he only kissed.

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Describe your writing style
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Dogshit.
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Trump tweet. Sad!
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Bland and offensively so.

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would you PLEASE read my paper and give me (you)s. I had a good time writing it. Fun topic.

http://pastebin.com/fe3vWM7n
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Trying too hard.

Sooner you realize nobody gives a fuck about you, the better.
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>>8790629
the assignment is to work in elements of a memoir with discussion of/reference to 3 texts
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>>8790613
It's reads like a psychoanalytical transcript

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describe reddits intellectual prowess and demeanor using your best prose
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>>8790572
I have always been and atheist, but of lately I have become intrigued with the wonderful psychedelic mysticism of the "Far East", thanks to my rather late introduction to certain substances which shall remain unnamed in this speech. I have begun to question so-called "scientific reality," and have now a developing sort of "intuition" that perhaps we are all somewhat in the dark, like stage actors with amnesia.

Taoism says that all things are one, and are in fact nothing that can...
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>>8790572
*BRRRAAAAPPPPP*
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include me in the screencap


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