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In this thread: we try to induce otherness in the hearts of lonely 12 year olds and horny sexual deviants. Beauty can be found in the shittiest of places.

“Did they know that even for that boy there, for that mean sinful unthinking boy standing there with his dirty hands clenching and unclenching at his sides, Jesus would die ten million deaths before He would let him lose his soul? He would chase him over the waters of sin! Did they doubt Jesus could walk on the waters of sin?”

Excerpt From: Flannery O'Connor. “Wise Blood.” iBooks.
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>>8333689
I like how the guy in that pic thought he was so funny that he screencapped it to share with all his /b/ros.

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So, I used to read poetry to some of my exes and it worked like a charm but in retrospect I've gotta say now that I'm less pleb that the idea of reading poetry to your loved one seems ttoo pretentious and pseud for it to be honest. I think in that time I was more concerned about getting that sweet pussy by narrating it with my cool as hell voice than to expand my feelings and understandment of X poetry.
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15 is too young to start posting. Please just wait it out.
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>>8333656
I'm 19 now but at that time I was like 15-17. Does anyone do this shit with a pure and honest heart?
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>>8333661
Did once it's a mistake
We're fags
she is only worried about our sweet dick

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why do so many works of western young adult literature portray the MC's high school years as the worst time in their life, there isn't anything inherently bad about them. if anything they are the best years of your life when you could probably have the most fun with the least consequences.
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>>8333516
because most writers are autistic turbo nerds
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They're only "the most fun years" to people with absolutely shitty and stagnant adult lives.


Personally, I had some fun in highschool, but I'm glad I dropped out midway. I gained more in those two years than I ever would have had I stayed.
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teenagers are winy brats who want their victim complexes validated. Even if your teenage years are bad, they will eventually end and you'll move on with your life. Adult life doesn't end until you die.

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A longing grips me to be dead and see
the shores of Acheron, dew-sprinkled, covered with lotuses.

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A kind of yearning has hold of me - to die
and to look upon the dewy lotus banks
of Acheron.

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Can someone break it down
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>>8333508
Acheron is a river in Hades. (Mythology)

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Recently I've devoted most of my time spent on literature to theory and fiction. However I've been meaning to dip my toe back into nonfiction and am at a loss considering the genre seems to be swamped with pages and pages that smell of self help. I read stuff like "the wave" and "the devils teeth" by Susan Casey which I liked enormously in high school. Something along those lines (detailed accounts of fringe groups engaging in esoteric/ dangerous/ etc. work) is what I'm looking for. Thanks for the help.
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Suggestions of high concept science fiction would also be appreciated. Something analogous to carl sagan's contact.
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>no way down by graham bowley
disaster on k2, similar to krakauer's into thin air
>jumping fire by murry taylor
smokejumper's memoir, first half is great, second half is >tfwnogf
>blind descent by james tabor
cave explorers, first half is good, second half is >tfwnogf
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Deep by James Nestor

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What are the best books in the bible?
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My diary desu
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Genesis
Judges
Proverbs
Ecclesiastes
Song of Solomon
Gospel of John
Ephesians
Epistles of John
Revelation
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The Gospels

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>go on /lit/
>check catalog
>>What do I read to hate women more?
>>Why do people like The Great Gatsby?
>>why haven't you read The Tunnel Yet?
>another HP Lovecraft thread
>16 more DFW threads
Will /lit/ ever be good?
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No.
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>>8333205
>>8333205
Oh good, the only thing missing from catalog was a post bitching about how shit /lit/ is. Thanks for completing the set OP.
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>>8333205
Nah, it was pretty decent 3 or 4 years ago but GamerGate brought a whole bunch of underage memers to 4chan. The alt-right is a woodrot to this entire website.

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Is it even worth it be become an intellectual any more? It seems like instant gratification culture prizes wit and rhetoric over a depth of knowledge.

TL;DR How do I prevent myself from becoming a dilettante? It's my biggest fear
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>It seems like instant gratification culture prizes wit and rhetoric over a depth of knowledge.

yeah this is a new thing, absolutely...
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HAHAHAHAHA

leave
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>>8333161
>How do I prevent myself from becoming a dilettante?

First, look up the definition of dilettante.

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Help plz I can't make up my mind .
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>>8333153
i'd say dostoevsky. as long as "dream of a ridiculous man" is in there.
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>>8333153
Three good books. Do the Hemingway first.
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>>8333160
It is

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What's the general opinion of these books? I just started rereading the series for the first time. I had the first five read by the sixth grade, and shortly after that Half Blood Prince came out, but I haven't gone back to them since the series concluded, nor am I that familiar with the movies beyond the first three. I'm halfway through Philosopher's Stone right now and damn it if it isn't comfy as fuck
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>>8333100
Good for tweens and teens. Crap writing.
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What are you, a broad? Get the fuck out of here.
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>>8333100
The writing sucks but I don't care. I found it comfy too when I read them all for the first time about 6 years ago.
Read them all back to back really quickly it was a good experience.

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People are still buying copies of all three Tundra books since the initial release in September 2014.

It never stops!
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>>8333042
No one cares
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>>8333042
>tfw I own a first addition full color of book 1
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The fire rises etc etc

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Could you guys reccomend me some books on improving writing, sentence structure ect. I have a large vocabulary but I find whenever I write anything it just is full of a lot of big words but never has any emotion behind it. Thanks lit
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>>8333006
Stephen King, On Writing. Also, Strunk & White.
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>>8333012
Thanks man, I appreciate it. do you have any general advice on writing?
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>>8333023
>any general advice on writing?

The most important advice is to finish what you start. Don't give up on stories halfway even if they're horrible.

The trick is to enjoy sucking, because you WILL suck at first.

If you suck for long enough eventually you'll stop sucking. And if you keep going long enough after that then you'll end up in a place one day where your work could be worth being published.

Also: read the two books I suggested.

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Is there any book where an abridged version is objectively superior to the unabridged version?

I never would go out of my way to read an abridged book, but just curious to see what the consensus is.

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>>8332989
>Is there any book where an abridged version is objectively superior to the unabridged version?

No.

You could perhaps argue that modern translations of older classics do abridge them to some extent. I have an 1887 translation of Dostoyevsky's The Idiot, as well as a 2005 one, and they're like two different books with the modern version obviously a lot more suited to modern palates.
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Moby Dick. Unless you want to read dry encyclopediac entries about whales for ">muh rich context"
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>>8332989
Tale of Genji

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Just finished this.
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K... KEEP ME POSTED
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>>8332903
Sorry to hear that. Better luck choosing
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>>8332906
>>8332912
should i read Kafka's Complete Stories or Delillo's Underworld?

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I have to read the Poisonwood Bible for class (which I did) But I have to ask questions about the historical events in the novel and write A page on each one (4 questions, 4 pages) The thing is, I can't figure out what to talk about, could someone help me with finding questions for this?

Pic Related
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my little bro had to read it for a class in high school

maybe talk about apartheid, iirc one character moves to south africa
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also she has a book of essays which you can find at a library maybe, compares the behavior of humans to animals mostly
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>>8332880
Shit book, I read that my senior year of high school

Its something about Patrice Lumumba and kill whitey iirc
its been a few years

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>To those human beings who are of any concern to me I wish suffering, desolation, sickness, ill-treatment, indignities—I wish that they should not remain unfamiliar with profound self-contempt, the torture of self-mistrust, the wretchedness of the vanquished: I have no pity for them, because I wish them the only thing that can prove today whether one is worth anything or not—that one endures.
What was this guy's major malfunction? Is he being ironically edgy?
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>>8332741
>Is he being ironically edgy?
No. Look up morality in the pejorative sense. It's result of criticising a certain thought process in Christianity thay says something like "there is no need to rise up or fight for everything because Jesus thinks I'm okay and will give me nice things when I die"
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>>8332741
he's imparting a valuable truth; no pain no gain
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>>8332753

This

Entire new testament basically boils down to resist not evil

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Alright, so I'm a stupid cunt that followed his dreams, went to a Liberal Arts Uni, and, instead of taking the regular state required intro math courses that would have salvaged my quanitative abilities from the dust of my shitty public high school education, I got to take a bullshit Liberal Arts approach to math that left me with little to no practical quantitative reasoning skills. And now I have to take the GRE. Do any of you faggots have any recommendations for books (whether non-fiction, practice books, workbooks, etc.) to help me re-learn essentially all of mathematics...
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I had a similar situation. Took the GRE in my mid-twenties (last year). Had to cram a lifetime of math knowledge in about two weeks. Scored 154~ on the quantitative section, which is at least average-y for libarts fags. Ended up getting into my dream school, but my other scores were way, way better. YMMV.

Background: I never went to high school, so I basically had zero math education past the fifth grade, where I was fumbling with fractions like a dipshit. The one advantage I had was that when I was about 18, I had to do a similar math-cramming marathon to get my GED....
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>>8332739
Today anon was cool. Thanks anon.

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What are some good resources to learn how to become a good writer?
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Only advice in On Writing:

When in doubt, use less wording.
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John Gardner's Art of Fiction is one of the best starterpacks around

you'll notice lots of truth to his words t he more you practice, and his exercises are excellent
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>>8332646
Even though he writes genre fiction garbage, Branden Sanderson's BYU lectures do go into detail that's good for a beginner, as well as a lot of career advice and dealing with agents and publishing.

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Is there any contemporary book that talks about the guilt behind not working enough or not being rich and successful?
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>>>/r9k/
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>guilt
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>>8332668
Guilt on guilt on guilt is mine life friendo

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So i gotta write an argumentative essay within the scope of the Renaissance to modern times. Gimme a good topic with a strong counter.
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>>8332571
Joyce killed romanticism
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>>8332598
ill pay you 30 bucks to write this.. 6 pages and only 1 source
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>>8332571
western colonialism led to the greatest scientific breakthroughs of the 20th century onwards

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So /lit/wits, what book have you just finished?
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>>8332520
Finished The Sun Also Rises last night. About a fifth of the way through Portrait now. Not liking it as much as Dubliners.
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I finished Lolita yesterday. Loved the writing, although I felt like I was reading an /a/ loli fantasy.
A few of the passages made me a bit sick, and Humbert's revenge towards the end (against a guy who didn't actually do anything to Lo?) forced to conclude that he is indeed fucking crazy.

All in all was a good read, a sick mind, poor Humbert Humbert.
Would recommend

What's /lit/'s opinion on Wordsworth classics?
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Tend to have flimsy covers and quite a few punctuation errors, but for how cheap they are they're decent quality and usually have good introductions, criticism and lists of further reading
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Just don't make the mistake of buying huge volumes like war and peace or collected Shakespeare from them. The letters are printed infinetely small.

Decent for super cheap price, but obviously not of durable quality.
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>>8332567
fuck, I just bought collected works of Fitzgerald

thank god it was only 1.50 dollars

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19th century horror stories thread.
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A good short story.
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I've been reading pic related.

>comfy.jpg
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M.R. James and Algernon Blackwood.

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>the screaming meemies

Have I been memed by DFW from beyond the grave?
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>>8332472
You mean like is his will still alive as long as we still meme him?

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I am pretty /lit/ and I need help.
Look up Paperback Gorilla indie go go on google. I am doing a fundraiser for The Netflix of Books. I am serious and I need you. You need this service. The world needs books.
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>>8332444
>>>/global/rules/11
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>The Netflix of Books
>libraries don't exist and aren't free
>mfw
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Picked a bad name. Doa.

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Comfy lit?

I like the chapters where Aomame and Tengo are looking for each other.

Any other examples of comfy lit/chapters etc
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>>8332417
The last part of The Sun Also Rises when he's just chilling out by himself relaxing on the beach.
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The middle part of the Stranger when Meursault just goes swimming on a sunny day.
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Another Murakami, but I liked Kafka on the Shore when he's in the hotel and going to the gym, library.

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Albums and their literary equivalents.
This one makes me think of anything Faulkner.
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>>8332391
Go back to /mu/, you fucking retard
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>>8332397
Do you kiss your mother with that mouth?
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>>8332391
Anne Frank's diary

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What do you guys think of Beckett's novel trilogy? I've never read anything like it
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>>8332360
Loved it. The thing I find a bit weird is people tend to make out like it's totally different to every other piece of work he's ever done, but I thought there were strong similarities to Watt, and less but still there similarities to p much the rest of his corpus. And one of the best crime series. Like even on a pleb level I enjoyed that first book.

And those tranny sex scenes too, my goodness.
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It actually reminded me of Burroughs' Nova Trilogy
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>And those tranny sex scenes too, my goodness.

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I like to read fiction but I never understood poetry. There is this girl I like who sends me a lot of poetry(her own as well as famous poets) and I simply don't get the allure. There are a lot of metaphors and they are just sappy love poems. I only ever enjoyed a few poems by Bukowski because they are more like stories than sappy shit. I don't see much artistic value in most poetry. How do I begin to appreciate it? Any suggestions anons?
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>>8332347

I don't really enjoy fictional literature in general and therefore I think I understand pretty well your complaint. I'd recommend some Philip Larkin if you want to get a start. The problem is perhaps that you're paying too much attention to what the author is saying and not really allowing it to wash over you, which is really the pleasure. Maybe you should read a poem, and then keep going back to it after a couple of days after thinking about it a little.
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Honestly, there are very few poems that I enjoy as well. I think writing a compelling poem is incredibly difficult.
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There is a vast amount of poetry so you don't have to read "sappy shit".
The rhythm and sound of the poetry is as important as what it says.
If you learn and understand meter you will have a greater appreciation of poetry (even free verse).
Re-read a poem many times, you will not get full enjoyment from one reading.
Find an anthology of many poets to find the styles and poets you like best.

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Can we start banning frog threads already? They add nothing, and it's the same autist creating them all

See the catalog. There's no attempt to discuss literature, it's all >that feel when [something vaguely related to literature]
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>>8332330
Come on, dude. We both know that this thread was as pointless as the frog threads.

Delete this
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>>8332330
>tfw you make a thread expressing your feelings unrelated to literature about threads about people's feelings that are unrelated to literature
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>>8332340
>>8332349
>t. frog homos


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