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How to stop being a mediocre pleb /lit/? Recommend something insightful and enlightening
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Preferably a short novel. Attention span can't bother beyond ten pages an hour.
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>>8329428
Voltaire's Candide is a really easy yet highly insightful read.

After that, just about anything old. Roman and Greek history, philosophy, comedy anything.
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>>8329422
start with the greeks.

thoughts?
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>>8329347
epic reference upvoted xd
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This post makes me want to kill myself tomorrow

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Can /lit/ give me some disturbing/weird ideas to wright about?
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there's a skeleton inside you right now!!
nice trips :^)
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>>8329337
so many memes

wow
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>>8329333
a sad writer man deals with suicidal thoughts and posts on a chinese board thing i don't know

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I've never seen Knausgård featured on here, have any of you read the honest Norwegian best-selling sensation?
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>>8329317
nah he's shit
rather read 50 shades of grey
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We talk about this faggot everyday.
Read Proust or Powell. If you want something modern, read Ferrante.
If you wait twenty years or so, you can read my memoir based on the life of Miles Davis, Jon Rose, and, myself.
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>>8329318
50 shades isn't that bad. I read the first one.

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is epistemology, taken to its last consequences, nothing but philosophy of the mind?
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>>8329265
What do you mean by this?
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>>8329265
i bet you thought that sounded really deep when you wrote it

in reality it just sounds like "please think i am clever, please please, I am so lonely"
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>>8329465
>projecting

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I'm not a huge reader but I've read quite a few novels in my time, however I've never touched poetry.

Where do I start?
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>>8329256
the iliad probably
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>>8329256
The bard's sonnets, desu
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4chanlit.wikia.com/poetry

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I posted here the other night, but my thread archived without any replies.

Basically, I'm looking for an article, essay, or something of that nature about how any story that's written, whether intentionally or unintentionally, has themes, or perhaps even messages. And not in a moral guardian/SJW way. I want something I can use in an essay I'm writing.
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shakespeare in the bush?
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>>8329226
>my thread archived without any replies

>tfw know those feels
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>>8329235
Shit, that's great! Thanks!

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Psychology major here. What're the best few books/textbooks to get me ahead and started on forensic psych?
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>reading books for psychology
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>>8329190
dostoyevsky
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where you at pussyboi

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Has any philosopher in the history of mankind ever accurately defined what is "good" and "bad"?
If not what are the best definitions you've found?
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Nobody who tries to define good and evil in impersonal definite terms is worthy of the title "Philosopher".
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yeah i did
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Socrates and Platl went out of their way to say that there were no teachers of virtue and no way to pin virtue down using naive sophisticated tools like definitions.

So just don't look there lol

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https://join.skype.com/ggb5qcs3GIct
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>academic
>philosophy

Pick one, faggot.
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>>8329073
>Academic philosophy
>wittgenstein
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I can't join, is it sensing my plebbity and rejecting me?

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So I've been reading this for a couple of days and I'm enjoying it a lot (Fucking Ignatius it's the sanest person around here) but I found something particullary interesting. The pic related is the edition I'm reading right now and it surprised me how, no matter how much I've flattened it, bended it and overall manipulated it while reading it it's spine hasn't cracked nor there is any sign of damage on the spine itself. I'm almost at the end of the book so you know I'm aplying pressure while reading it but yet there is no damage to...
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What the fuck are you talking about?
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but spine damage shows it's been read, flaunting your patrician taste to plebeians

>not deliberately breaking the spine of all new books

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What the FUCK happened?
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King lost his fucking mind


I hope when King dies someone can reboot the Tower series and make all books like the first, Roland wandering the dying, weird world, occasionally massacring towns
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you got memed by an autistic kid with an eraser
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>>8329082
end my life

Why isnt SK a cartoon network writer instead?

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The voice of a generation?
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>>8329038
you fucking bet
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>>8329038
Voice of a majority of a generation
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>>8329038
One of many modern generations of degenerates, yes.

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How strange is your attractor ?

>>8328314
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Metaxic with your love ?
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Can you transcend ?
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>>8329025

The Love's always free ?

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What does /lit/ think about Star Trek books? As a fan of the show, I like them a lot. Does anyone else like them?
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They're pretty cool scifi. I remember liking the Corps of Engineers novellas.
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The Blish books tend to be the cream of the crop. They're very pulpy though
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Literally only read trek fanfiction

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I thought Purity really came together in the last half, but it's nowhere near as good as Freedom and The Corrections. It felt like everything was backstory. Best chapter was Tom's memoir.
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I thought it was a bit of a contrived mess, like the worst parts of the corrections (chips second half) but the whole book.
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There were some good parts, the family drama. But the global intrigue always destroys my willing suspension of disbelief when it comes from Franzen.


Still, that scene... [spoiler/] I'm gonna fuck you in the ass [/spoiler] yikes. Intense.
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>>8328995
>>8329976
>>8329982
Why would anyone read Franzen? The man's a complete hack.

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This man...in my country, he is everything...
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>>8328965
the DFW of his century
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>>8328965
he is the quintessential US author. only melville compares.

no, fuck your DFW and Gass.
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>>8330309

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tfw u will never fuck rimbaud hahahaha am i right
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>look at how much better than everyone I am
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>>8328934
whatever man
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>>8328930
I hate people who likes Rimbaud tbqh
9 times out of 10 they only say the like him because of that stupid picture where he is an 11/10 and haven't read anything written by him or if they have they have not understand it or find it moving at all.

I haven't read any Rimbaud but you can tell when people are pseuds with vague or "ohsoprofound" obscurintic responses.

Fuck Rimbaud.

Are there any good books on the Aboriginal Dream Time stories?
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Dreamtime is a special place...

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>>8328951
Mods pls ban schizo poster
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>>8328914

It's cool because I remember seeing stuff just like that in dreams as a kid.

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>have nice ass picture in my head which I'd like to translate into word
>even if I could the reader would not see it exactly as I do

hhungghg
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female sexuality terrifies me so i try to compensate by taking copious amount of prescription amphetamine meds
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>plan and outline for work
>scared you'll fuck up a good story with your shitty prose
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I'm hungry.

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Have you noticed the huge irony that the people who go on about the Ancient Greeks being so important wouldn't pay any attention to Socrates or Plato or Aristotle if they were born during their era? They'd be too busy wanking over the Ancient Egyptians.

And so on back in time, until the first group of humans would have some people claiming that Neanderthal mud paintings are the most profound thoughts of all time and only a disgusting pleb could think otherwise.
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>>8328889

Would we? I imagine most of us would be illiterate peasants who knew nothing about history and wondered where the sun went during night.
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What a pathetic fallacy.
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>>8328889
Neanderthals didn't make any "mud paintings", you dumb fuck.

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I finished reading Dubliners by JJ and after each short story I would google its meaning on Sparknotes.

I've done the same thing with all of Steinbeck's short stories and mark twains.

How bad have I fucked up? Is it stupid to do this if I want to fully grasp the stories?

Do you do it?
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>>8328879
sounds like a good way to fully appreciate those merry little cracks
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>>8328885
FUG
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This is how one reads deeply. Looking up critical angles on the literature you read is important. I would only suggest looking into sources other than Sparknotes due to its tendency to oversimplify things - but I can also understand the use of Sparknotes out of sheer convenience.

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Anyone know anything about Chinese literature? They publish the most books according to wikipedia. What are they writing?
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Lots of propaganda. They jail anyone who writes negative about the government or any politician, and the government censors all the media including the internet.
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>>8328845
Interesting to see this. I speak Mandarin but I was under the impression all they put out is fucking trash. Could still be right but 1 of 440,000 has gotta be good.
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>>8328845
in my experience it's predominantly independent stories from weibo writers and a lot of kids workbooks.

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>people who have strong opinions on books they’ve never actually read
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>>8328837

>"I don't want to read that book. It looks shitty."
>"oh my god, how do you know it's shitty if you haven't read it?"
>read book
>it's shitty
>"oh my god, why did you even read it if you knew you were going to hate it?"
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i will never read david foster wallace i bet he sucks
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>>8328859
Your loss
i have never read anything dfw either

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Besides this list, what books can I recommend to my 17 year old cousin to help him further himself for his last 2 years of high school and eventually university?
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>>8328824
Iliad and the Odyssey
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my diary desu
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>>8328828
Care to share?

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Well, /lit/, I'm about to settle in with pic related. I've got a cup of tea, a top floor apartment with a view of the city, and a nice fluffy papasan chair. Is there anything more comfy?
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>>8328808
get off /lit/ and read it faggot
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the only thing more comfy would be to save it for fall/winter. but i guess that depends on your location anyhow, excellent book regardless.
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>>8328808
>you will never spend a day in the countryside with ol' Sut

why live?

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Hey /lit/ how does one go about choosing the tone of their novel and how do you keep it consistent?
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Your pic makes it hard for people to take you seriously.
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>>8328777
Is this the sort of shit people think about so they have an excuse not to write?
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just be yourself

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>descriptivist dictionaries
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>>8328764
>prescriptivist dictionaries
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>descriptivist dictionaries
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How much do care about understanding the context of a book or author when you read one?

Do you have to do a little bit of historical research before you read Charles Dickens? Or do you just dive in?
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stephen dies in hard times
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>>8328758
literally only read any intro material they give you.

and dont read a cuck novel like ulysses
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>>8328758
I don't quite understand that graph.

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I'm 3 chapters into The Trial by Franz Kafka and I find myself absolutely bored while I'm reading it. There's nothing interesting going, no interesting characters and the prose is nothing special, from what I can tell it's like any other book. I want to drop it but at the same time I keep thinking it's going to get better later since it's on the /lit/ must read list.

Should I drop it? How many chapters do you give a book before you drop it?
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shut up loser
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You should at least get to the point where Kafka dropped it
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You can drop it, just realize that whenever it comes up in conversation, you will have to explain that you could not get further than about 50 pages into a sub 200-page book that is often taught in highschool.


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