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>be transfer student to 4 year university, already admitted, but way behind schedule for various reasons
>awaiting email replies confirming that my admission is on track
>listening to Wallace's "This is Water" speech to understand the parody posted on the /lit/ humor thread
>email indication
>Oh, a reply already?
>official email from admissions staff at large university literally...
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>>8327856
The best job to take is a mindless one that only works your body. This means your mind will not be tired when it comes time to read and write.
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>>8327867
Tried that, used to be a /fit/ guy, but I always felt too drained to think so I stopped.

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>/lit/ suddenly hates Orwell

What happened?
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I believe that's a false assertion
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The contrarian pendulum swings to the other side.
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>>8327697
Most of /lit/ is Armenian.

>philosopher
>writer
>one of the best bodies ever
how most writers and intelectuals are lazy pieces of shit?

how come they work so hard on their brain and then let their body rots.
how come they never workout and then blames women for not liking them (shopenhauer)?

Is there any philosophical school about working out both your body and your mind?
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Read Sun & Steel
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ya, the fucking greeks.
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who dat

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hit me up with some outdoorsy, adventure books about survival
fiction and non-fiction welcome
pic related was good, if a tiny bit long-winded
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Hatchet is pretty fun but it's a kid's book

The Wendigo and The Willows by Algernon Blackwood are both good
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Sir Edmund Hillary's books are solid.
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also pretty good

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How do I feel guilty about not working non stop? Apart from things all humans do plus going to the gym, I feel guilty about any of my habits. And I have no goals.

I want to read books but I feel guilty about reading a set number of pages a day. I am worried about being called a pleb for not reading ten trillion boring Western canon novels. I feel like an ADD pleb for rarely reading more than 60 pages at a time. I hate that I'm more likely to put a book down at the end of a chapter.

Similarly for working. I know I could always be working to become better off....
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*stop feeling guilty
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>>8327623
>The awful thing is that I know everyone else is a fraud. That NFL player who everyone loves and says is hardworking has never read a book. That mathematics professor known as a genius is a disgusting dyel. That literary figures who goes on about Shakespeare being a god doesn't know any maths or science greater than an 18 year old yet claims to be worldly. That billionaire who goes on about humanity's big issues does nothing but write checks for people who make social media apps.

Making...
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Is there a best copy/translation of The Ego and Its Own that anyone would recommend?

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Hey, /lit/. So I'm thinking of picking this up soon but I was just wondering if I'm going to have to have read anything else before this to really understand what's Camus is talking about, or if I can just jump right in.
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>>8327600
Reading The Stranger can give you some insight into his philosophy, but it is not required

That or the Greeks
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>>8327600
No, go ahead and read it.
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Pretty decent book, doesn't require much context.

He refers to Nietzsche and Kierkegaard a lot so at least have an idea of what they stand for.

I read the penguin ideas version because I could get it really cheap. Dont know what the 'other essays' here are.

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A really good interview with the guy behind the Complete Review: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_vWueM0h3A

This guy reads a book per day. Talks about Arno Schmidt, The Story of the Stone, underrated world literature, how he picks books, etc.

Also he looks like Count Olaf from A Series of Unfortunate Events.
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>>8327581
this looks like 3D graphics
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Netflix casting for a Series of Unfortunate Events is incredible.
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>>8327581
Just fyi, a lot of /lit/'s charts draw pretty heavily on what he recs.

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Has Nietzsche ever been debunked?
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Ya, by a horse
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yes, look in the mirror and close one eye.
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>>8327578
/thread

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This is objectively the list of the best books of all time, in order. Prove me wrong (Non-Fiction excluded)

1. Ulysses - James Joyce
2. The Faerie Queene - Edmund Spenser
3. Gravity's Rainbow - Thomas Pynchon
4. Omeros - Derek Walcott
5. The Life and Times of Michael K. - J.M. Coetzee
6. Beloved - Toni Morrison
7. The Trial - Franz Kafka
8. Hamlet - William Shakespeare
9. Trilogy - Samuel Beckett
10. Paradise Lost - John Milton
11. To the Lighthouse - Virginia Woolf
12. Pale Fire - Vladamir Nabakov
13. "A" - Louis Zukofsky
14....
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>IJ is his contemporary choice
>not Suttree

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>>8327570
Pretty arbitrary and meaningless. 2/10
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>No Lolita

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What are some good books about religion and atheism?

Not like The God Delusion. I'm not looking for a fedora-tier book but one that portrays accurately religious beliefs and written by someone who have studied religion - Dawkins and Hitches do not count.
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Dawkins and Hitchens are perfectly food at criticizing religion. OP you think that religion is this great big mystical thing and surely the plain, direct arguments of the two above simply cannot be good enough. But the reality is religion really is just that weak. Its bred from human fears and ignorance. If you can sum up someone as savagely intelligent as Hitchens as fedora tier then you deserve to be religious.
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>>8327580
Hitchens early work is fine, the later is just mumbling what others have said for the sake of being polemic.
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>>8327580
Dawkins is a biologist. Nothing more.
Theologians don't take him seriously. His books concerning religion aren't studied in academia. Other atheist professors don't even take him seriously.

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Worth reading as an intro?
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>>8327555
No, unless you're 13.
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>>8327555
>555
Trips speak the truth.

>555 bc death of the Greek poet Stesichorus
>Stesichorus wrote The Palinode
>The Palinode begins with "There is no truth in that story"

The trips have spoken. You must start with Platonic dialogues instead.
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>>8327555

Yes. I think it's important to get a nice view of what subjects philosophy tackles before getting into more meaty primary texts, and this book should be a good introduction into that.

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The you realize that Caulden Halfield is The Catcher In The Rye and you're the person he's catching from falling off a cliff.
Man that was such a damn good book. Does anyone know any other books about disaffected people, who are extremely dissatisfied with society and lonely and depressed and alienated and feeling like nothing really matters, besides The Stranger? I really loved this book.
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>>8327520
Depends, how old are you?

Stoner is probably a book you'll like.
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>>8327520
I love it too OP. Joyce's Portrait gave me similar feels but a bit more ambiguous regarding its pessimism/optimism.
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>>8327650
I'm 22

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>Paul cried the first day of preschool for around ten minutes after his mother, who was secretly watching and also crying, seemed to have left. It was their first time apart. Paul’s mother watched as the principal cajoled Paul into interacting with his classmates, among whom he was well liked and popular, if a bit shy and “disengaged, sometimes,” said one of the high school students who worked at the preschool, which was called the Discovery Center. Each day, after that, Paul cried less and transitioned more abruptly from crying to interacting with classmates, and by the middle of the second week he didn’t cry anymore. At home, where mostly only Mandarin was spoken, Paul was loud and either slug-like or, his mother would say in English, “hyperactive,” rarely walking to maneuver through the house, only crawling, rolling like a log, sprinting, hopping, or climbing across sofas, counters, tables, chairs, etc. in a game called “don’t touch the ground.” Whenever motionless and not asleep or sleepy, lying on carpet in sunlight, or in bed with eyes open, bristling with undirectionalized momentum, he would want to intensely sprint in all directions simultaneously, with one unit of striving, never stopping. He would blurrily anticipate this unimaginably worldward action, then burst off his bed to standing position, or make a loud noise and violently spasm, or jolt from the carpet into a sprint, flailing his arms, feeling always incompletely satisfied.

how good is tao lin?
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>>8327517
4.5/10
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>>8327517
cajoled is entirely the wrong word to use here.
Pretty low effort material.
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>>8327568
why? I literally cant think of a more appropriate one to use

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Can lit recommend books or novellas that give off a y's feel?
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the waves by woolf.
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It's just ys, you silly stupid cunt.
No, it wasn't a typo.
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Alice Munro

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Just finished reading this and really enjoyed it. Can we have a discussion about it?

The ending was incredibly depressing and I get the whole, "you should cherish memories" bit, but what do you guys think is the main message in the novel?
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>>8327460
I loved this book. I'm not sure this is the main message but ,what I took away from it was, basically don't waste your time in life. I saw them all as terminal. and who knows maybe I could be terminal. so live it up. don't go around wasting your time chasing after some bullshit.
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i think it's about
a) how people accept the world they're presented with as normal
b) how people romanticise the past
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I didn't think it was very good. Been over a year since I read it though. Everything was explained so explicitly in the end as if he were writing for retards with no reading comprehension.

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Discuss.
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>>8327457
no
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propaganda for the Black Ayyster Cult, like the Ascension thing in that rapper RPG game
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Embarrassment.

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Opinions on Puzo's literature?
I have been thinking about reading one of his books, which one is the best? The Godfather or?
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>>8327404

Read The Godfather a long time ago. Wasn't terrible, but wasn't great either. If you're a fan of the movie, you may appreciate the extra info, but it's not like the different medium adds a totally new spin on things.
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Looked up the rating of The Godfather on Goodreads and this was one of the reviews.

Why aren't people like this banned from reviewing books?
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>>8327451

desu this review isn't totally inaccurate. Don't care for it's attitude though. Why does every single goodreads reviewer feel the need to act like a smartass?

Is Dubliners much easier than Ulysses? I want to start reading Joyce, but Ulysses seems too daunting to start with. Should I read Dubliners?
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Dubliners is LEAGUES easier than anything else Joyce made, but it is incredibly subtle. You gotta pay attention and using a guide or sparknotes to pick up on everythjng is recommended

Nothing beats tackling Joyc chronologically because his evolution is the greatest in all of lit
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The only difficult part of Dubliners is the dialect some of the characters slip into. It's pretty straightforward realism.

Definitely read A Portrait of the Artist as a Young Man next.
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>>8327394
Yes. Start with the Greeks. Then work your way through the Saints, then Dubliners, then Portrait, then Ulysses. I'd also suggest reading a history book about late 1800s and early 1900s Irish and English history and their relationship.

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>tfw you've been pronouncing a word wrong for years

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/requiem
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colloquial
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>>8327248
>>8327253
How did you nerds pronounce these?
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>>8327268
[rJkwʌJəm]

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have you ever paid more than $3 for a book? if so, why?
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Because I wanted to buy it.
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>>8327213
/thread
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I wasn't finding a copy of the new J R reprint anywhere for cheap

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Who else loves the idea of reading more than actually reading?
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i won't deny that
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The real question is:

Be able to read but be a virgin for life

or

not be able to read but get to have sex?
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i like dreaming about writing stuff than actually reading

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What's your favorite part about Dante's Inferno, Anon? Do you actually like it, or The Divine Comedy in total?
Do you not think his idea about contrapasso gets a bit silly after a while?
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The only interesting part imo is the inferno, the rest is pretty tiresome and repetitive.
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People who read just the Inferno and not the rest of the comedy need to go back to redd*t
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>>8327148
>wahhh i'm so patrician i watch the entire porno and don't just skip to the cum shot
Hope you enjoy those hours and hours of foreplay, nobleman.

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What do we think of her? She's my favourite poet.
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I can identify a lot with her lifestyle a lot, which have made my tried to enjoy her poetry as well (I imagined it would make sense I should), but unfortunately I just don't.
What's your favorite poem by her, or your favorite lines?
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>>8327095

Tell all the truth but tell it slant —
Success in Circuit lies
Too bright for our infirm Delight
The Truth's superb surprise
As Lightning to the Children eased
With explanation kind
The Truth must dazzle gradually
Or every man be blind —

This encapsulates her poetry and how I think about it. I love the sideways way she writes about topics.
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>V important for pre-Modern American lit.
Which ain't saying much, mate.

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To all the german /lit/izens out there. Do you know of any good contemporary german authors worth reading? Bonus points for unknown ones
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>>8327043
>good contemporary german authors
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Long and dense books:
Das bessere Leben
Die Erfindung der Roten Armee Fraktion durch einen manisch depressiven Teenager im Sommer 1969
Der Turm

Famous authors:
Juli Zeh

Comfy authors:
Walter Moers

Shitty ones:
that 15 year old girl who copied everything

The Deutscher Buchpreis is usually a good start, especially the short list: http://www.deutscher-buchpreis.de/en/
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>>8327069
Better link to short lists/long lists: http://www.deutscher-buchpreis.de/en/archive/

>finish reading book
>turn on computer
>read the book's wikipedia article
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>Finish reading book's reviews on goodreads
>Turn on computer
>Discuss book on /lit/
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I always read the articule afterwards :-/
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>buy book
>read the book's wikipedia article
>set as read on Goodreads

First time posting in /lit/. Any good post-apocalyptic themed books you would recommend? Any bad ones?
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>>8326987
Canticle for Leibowitz
On the Beach
Lucifer's Hammer
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>>8326987
http://www.tkinter.smig.net/outings/rosemountghosts/babylon.htm

By the Waters of Babylon is a fantastic short story.
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>>8326987
Canticle for Leibiwitz.
It's original, fresh, insightful and sadly the only work by Miller.

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What are some good piracy novel ?
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>>8326805
Treasure Island
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Why are Anons so unlike the characters in works of literature popular on here/the authors of those works?
Raskolnikov wouldn't be shitposting and bitching on 4chan after he had his Enlightenment, Tolstoy certainly wouldn't be this cynical.

What's the point in you even reading then, if you take nothing from it?
>>>>>>inb4 reading for entertainment
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>>8326646
often times its irony. but lets get real, anons who spend time shitposting and being mean on 4chan aren't going to red tolstoy, and if they do, they surely wont enjoy him.
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Emulation characters and authors isn't the point of literature.
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>becoming a character in a book

do you have autism?

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Is Hegel as essential for understanding of the further philosophy as Kant? From what I read so far, hegelian philosophy is just a huge heap of meaningless wordplay over dialectical method, and "muh whole" (mainly applied to muh German nation). Does he have any redeeming qualities?
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Why don't you read him and find out?
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>>8326630
He's nigh unreadable.
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>>8326639
Read some introduction, SEP articles, buy a Hegel dictionary. Get work done.

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Any /lit/ approved comics?
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majority of alan moore's shit is good
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>>8326549
Watchmen is incredible.
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>>8326562
This.

Watchmen is literally the only comic I've read though


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