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>we're all going to die
>people in the future will be able to extract memory from their brain and install it into clones while having relationships that last hundreds of thousands of years
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>>8323841
You're on the literature board

Take your 'feels' to /r9k/
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>if I use the Star Trek transporter to make 87 iterations of myself, and all the iterations read 87 different books at once, "I" will be reading 87 books at once!

This is how fucking DUMB you are, clone lover.
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>>8323853
>not making 1 iteration of yourself
>not being okay with dying after several billion years
>not embracing true humanity and emotion with somebody
I bet you like omnipotent gods too

>http://www.npr.org/sections/13.7/2016/07/25/487327634/embracing-the-humanities-a-perspective-from-physics
so /lit/ are we just a supplement to natural science's desire to predict human behavior?
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>>8323835
for whom?

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Define the following word: Post-postmodernism.
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plurality in mediation
ironic distancing
pastiche
spectrumite
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Shit
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Polyphony of semiotic irredentism
Irrealist dispositif
Jamaican patties from the train station
AHHHHHHHHH!! AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm an 18 year old white kid who's extremely melodramatic about where he is in his life. I've found pic related and "The Stranger" by Albert Camus to be helpful. Any book recommendations for coming of age?
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>>8323780
Tender is the night
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>>8323780
portrait
ulysses
finnegans wake
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I Pass Like Night

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Is there any YA fiction that's actually good, or is it all a big meme?
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i see this thread all the time lol

im still fond of coraline by neil gaiman
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>>8323789
It's the same weirdo who creates them all. Odd obsession
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>>8323795
bro, why would you call me odd, bro
like if you don't like how I act just go mind your own business, no need to think about me or call me odd, bro
don't call me odd ever again like that bro

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Is /lit/ the most intelligent board on 4chan?

I know this might not be saying much, but I think it is for the obvious reason.

Also, on an unrelated note I saw a thread about black authors and not once did someone meme "nigger" into the thread. I didn't know that could happen around here.
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>>8323772
It's the most leftist because they've been brainwashed by cultural Marxism by Marxist professors in college and university.

The real intellectuals are on /r9k/ and /pol/ where the redpill rules.

The redpill is truth, not academia lies of postmodernist perspective subjective feels.
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it is
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no, that's /po/, which is why you've never heard of them.
they have the full autism genius, unlike >>8323779 who just have that uptight feel of someone who's never been invited to a sybaritic party despite voting republican to indicate their interest in such things. we just have paper with squiggles on it, which is still better, but not /po/ level smart.

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>tfw not much time for reading anymore because you're working all the time
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I still read, but down to about 1 book a month.

Wage slave life is garbage
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>>8323769
For real. I can't even remember the last time that I sat down to work on any of my writing projects.
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I read on the job 8)


Work has definitely cut into the time for my other hobbies though

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was she a lesbian?
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>>8323749
According to Lacan?
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>>8323919
No.

To me it is unclear why she defenestrated. Though perhaps she was just suicidal. She did say at one point that, "I was never really myself when I wasn’t running away.”

Also during Louiki's narration, see says that she spent a lot of time with Jeannette Gaul, the woman she met and befriended while at the pharmacy.
That Louiki was averse to hanging around men in the company of Jeannette. That she jettisoned an entire friends group when they were doing a double date sort of thing...
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>>8324056

I mean I think you bring up some good points to support it, but it still feels like a stretch.
Especially since she leaves the Jeanette friend group only to exclusively hang around the young men at the Conde and Roland.

But that scene when they're on the bed and she gets spooked about her lame husband coming home.

so yeah, she's prob a closet dyke

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What's the purpose of keeping books on the shelf when you're done reading? Outside of academic or reference books, after you rad a book, you could use the ebook for any other reading of it, right? You don't just want to show off your collection, do you? Do you read for others?
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Terrible bait. Try harder.
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>>8323732
>You don't just want to show off your collection, do you?
what would be wrong with that?

I love material things

I like that if I have people over at my house they can glance over my bookshelf and see what sort of stuff I read
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I dont. Library give me 95% of books i read

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I recently read "The tunnel - Ernesto Sabato" and I absolutely adored the book. I realized that it shared a few thematic similarities with "Notes from underground - Dostoevsky" (both slightly rambling and raising questions pertaining to existentialist despair). Before these I had read "siddhartha - herman hesse".

Both were books about a character that most normie critics see as "demented/crazy/lunatic" but only the fiercest misanthropes and loners understand the characters completely and are even able to relate to them. Even siddhartha...
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>>8323695
mishima
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>>8323695
I took something different from The Tunnel. I saw it as the story of Castel's self-isolation/self-defeat. He saw himself as an outsider and so of course he ended up alone, in his cell, in his tunnel, due to his actions.
His paintings weren't an attempt to communicate - they were supposed to confirm and excacerbate his isolation. Which is why he had to, in the end, kill Maria, the one who understood. Allende was not the only blind one.

The only escape is sincere communication, and it's not a...
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>>8323701
Anything in particular by him? Where do I begin?

>>8323762
I see it as a story of self isolation and defeat although I do not view it as a defeat that was entirely self inflicted.

I agree that they weren't an attempt to communicate but to confirm his isolation. An expression of his complete loneliness but not an exacerbation though.

Sincere communication is impossible anon. There never can be anyone who will completely understand anyone else....
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After seeing the movie in pic related I went and read the book. Holy shit, how come nobody talks about him? It was 70 pages of wonderful prose, tons of feels and great french vibe. This is the true NEET life, and it doesn't come with piss bottles. I'm going to start Life: A user's manual soon. So, Georges Perec thread?
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Might check him out.

I miss the neet life. Being wage slave is hell
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>>8323621
Have two different copies of LAUM - gave one to my old man. He gave it back to me within fifteen minutes of being gifted it. Claimed that it was unreadable.

Either he's an autismal modernist with no taste or proclivity towards post-modern prose, or he's correct in his assertion.

I hope it's the former.
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I read Life, a user's manual, one of the best books I've read desu. Actually just came across that movie on IMDB and now I want to read more Perec.
It's hard to find online though, might gonna have to make a trip to the library.

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So /lit/ I don't really read very often besides stuff on the internet but I've been wondering if reading some classic philosophy, like Epictetus' Discourses/Fragments/Enchiridiom or Marcus Aurelius' Meditations, will improve my quality of life. My question is how practical are these books and will I actually come away with useful ideas that I didn't already have? Do you have any book recs, stoic or otherwise? Should I be looking into something else entirely?
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Books that are referencing stoics and /k and /out approved " on combat" and "deep survival" philosophy without application is masturbation.
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Read them and find out or fuck off.
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anyone who is on /lit/ has failed at life objectively. leave.

Hey /lit/, i have seen you guys seem to like Borges, but talking about argentines writers, what are your thoughts on Julio Cortázar work.
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>>8323560
he so smart that his brain is pushin his eyes out of his skull. or maybe it's jus water.
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>>8323560
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>>8323560

I like his short stories but Rayuela is totally overrated.


t. porteña

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Is 1984 a meme book?
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>>8323548
Yes.
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i enjoyed it a lot, dont know about rest of /lit/ though
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>>8323548
I dont know what that means.

I didnt like it that much. Its an idea book, and has the shelf life of such.

>mfw speedread fags will never feel the joy of slowly reading a book, absorbing all the information and meaning
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i dont get why people want to speed through as many books as they can. like, Do you want to enjoy reading or just say youve read a lot?
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>all the deep meaning the genius author decided to include in their book
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Does /lit/ agree with pic related?

I haven't read the book but my friend recommended it to me recently. It's pretty popular from what I gather.
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>he believes in the myth of linear social progress
Ahahahahahahahahaha
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>>8323518
Evola asserts that both forms of progress, both social and technological, are falsities.
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>Capital X Xword

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Would you read a novel completely written in greentext?
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Would you play N64 rail shooters with me and then finger my ass hole?
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Will the ink be in green.

The format would be fine; I've certainly already read more tedious formats.
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I only post in threads that require no previous knowledge of literature to participate. This way I can feel like I belong on a literature board without ever reading a book.

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lit believe in god/the afterlife?
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>>8323375
I don't subscribe to the false dichotomies of self/other and life/death.
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>>8323393
You're like a negative Don Quixote

Stop being an idiot

That's not to say there is an afterlife, by definition that is impossible. God could be anything though it's too vague an idea
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>>8323408
I'm not being an idiot, I'm just prone to unwarranted discrimination. If anything that makes me less of an idiot.

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How much of a meme is 'School of Life'? In terms of presenting information in easy-to-digest flashy Youtube videos, do you think that it provides accurate general introductions to the ideas of various philosophers and political theorists? I've watched a few and found them quite interesting, but I'm always wary of colourful, casually-presented "info-tainment" as they tend to omit quite a lot of information as well as present one-sided, reductionist views of highly complex topics (e.g. John Green's Crash Course History).
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>>8323352
Let me save you 300 replies and condense it:

>cuck
>SJW
>cultural Marxism
>Jews
>shill
>redpill
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It's super garbage. Makes skimming a Wikipedia article look scholarly.

Every idea is thoroughly neutered, misinterpreted and made agreeable to the format.

For the love of God avoid at all costs
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>>8323463
what's a better alternative in your opinion?

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>tfw cant fucking tear myself away from the internet
>"happenings" and weird shit occurring all day everyday
>the slightest hint of a pattern sets my conspiracy detector off the charts

How do I take the long view? If history repeats itself then why care about the past? Why do we bother having art when the real world is weird enough?

And why bother putting effort in to life when I am a devout Spook fearing Stirnerite? I could sit back and watch stuff happen
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>>8323347
Stop browsing /pol/, retard
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sam
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Oy fucking vey. Shut this down go-i mean guy

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He's not particularly well known anywhere in the English-speaking world, is he?

That being said, his Zamonien novels are the most original comfy stuff you can get
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>>8323311
He loses a lot in translations, they try real hard but his use of the German language is part of what makes them great.
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>>8323363
*what makes his books

Also the English language covers look like fucking garbage compared to the originals

What is Nietzsche's view on revenge and punishment?

"What a fine way of compensating for your suffering it is to go on and *destroy your own judgment*! Your revenge rebounds upon you yourself when you defame something; it is your *own* eye you dim, not that of another: you accustom yourself to *seeing distortedly*!" (Daybreak, 214)

"Reflect! - He who is punished is never he who performed the deed. He is always the scapegoat." (Daybreak, 252)

"Then an adder came along and bit him in the neck, so that Zarathustra cried out in...
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>>8323197
Go back to Heraclitus for the answer, because Nietzsche is basically on board with Heraclitus. That is, there is no justice. He goes on further to explain that punishment is just how we get our Schadenfreude fix. I don't think he's fundamentally opposed to some healthy cruelty once in awhile and he doesn't really drop a moral condemnation on it though he opposed it from a consequentialist perspective. He at least wants us to call a spade a spade in the field of justice though.

He also opposes...
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>>8323427
Good post
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>>8323197
My favourite line, unrelated to Nietzsche, on revenge is this:

"You are punished by anger; not for it."

It calms me to such an unreal degree.

how do i overcome jealousy
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tss whats the matta are you green with envy or somethin
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>>8323189
chip pls
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>>8323142
Examine your expectations and change them if they can't be met

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How do I improve my reading speed. I feel slow, yet if I go any faster I forget most of what I've read

>pic unrelated
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>>8323005
Continue to read an excess of books that you don't have any difficulty reading. Your mind will become accustomed to the traditions of writing and fill in the blanks.

I actually read at a much slower pace than I am capable of because I find reading very pleasurable and want to extend it and absorb it as much as I am able.
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>>8323005
I can read very quickly and retain a lot of what I've read but it's not an enjoyable experience is more of a "rush to finish this shit" thing. If I'm enjoying the book I read every sentence like is the last one.
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Don't. Just read it in a speed in which you can retain the infomation.

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Has any philosopher written about the myth of monosexuality?
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>>8322979
I AM REDPILLED AND WILL NOT STAND FOR THIS DEGENERACY.

You are mentally ill
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>>8322979
Foucault, and look where it got him.
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>>8323068
Kek
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How one become next Proust or Knausgaard? When they write about their inner day to day life everyone is jerking off. When i write about same, no one cares.
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They published it. You posted it on /lit/ or tumblr
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>>8322970
Your post reads like that of an idiot, so I don't think the average person would really care.
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>>8322971
I think this is basically it. Knausgaard, in particular, is nothing special.

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How do I enjoy reading? Playing video games is funner
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Read a book you enjoy
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>>8322963
>people will respond seriously to this

Sage

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>MC is at his presidential inauguration, his now president of the united states.
>Gets Isekai'd to a fantasy world.
>All he has is his presidential suit and a iphone.
>longstory short he brings republican freedom and overthrows the corrupt monarchy
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A butcher boy who gets dragged up in an epic war eventually gets hired to torture sorceresses from the opposing army.

It'd basically be like the Citadel parts of Shadow of the Torturer but made into a full novella/novel.
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>>8322920
>>8322958
>genre fiction
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>>8322974
Everything is genre fiction if it's fiction, my lad. You name it, I can put it on a particular shelf at Barnes & Noble.

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>The contrast of the two moralities described by Nietzsche ties in also with his theory of the Eternal Recurrence.

>Master morality accepts his 'being' as it is. Naturally there are some things, once encountered, that one should try and avoid, but 'everything' in his world must be accepted as part of life. He AFFIRMS life. By life, of course, I do not mean respirating in a body, but the milieu man encounters from when he enters this world to when he exits it.

>Slave morality believes and strives for wide swathes of life to be done away with altogether, as uncomfortable and unnecessary. He DENIES life.

>M.M. is best seen in warriors of all civilizations that desire a strong, resourceful enemy to pit himself against, to test his love of life to the fullest degree. S.M. seeks to do away with all perceived enemies. M.M. almost invites tribulations as a means to test himself. S.M. does not want any tribulations or hardships to be encountered.....EVER!

What do you think about this explanation of the master and slave morality, /lit/? From this, it seems to me that the "master" morality just means you're a retard with a complete lack of capacity for higher thought.
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>>8322862
>This is the new standard of bait for /lit/
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>>8322865
>In its most distilled sense, M.M. is acceptance of every facet of life for what it IS, and I will cast myself upon it to test my mettle. S.M. is an attempt to mold every facet of life into what "it SHOULD be" so I don't have to continually test my mettle.

Maybe this dude's interpretation is wrong?
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How are his ideas different than the ones presented by the stoic philosophers? He just copy pasted it all.

what's are the best translation of this work, /lit/? I've already been warned against Heaney.
Is the Swanton translation a good choice? What about Tolkien's?
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>>8322851
>cares enough to get warned about an X translation of Beowulf
>what about Tolkien's?

In short, it's unfinished maymay shit for people who like to shove the One Ring replicas into their ani
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>>8322855
Only the second meme arrow was required, friend. What's your recommendation?
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>>8322859
"dunno lol"
"just read the original lol"

to be honest, I'm not really an expert on Beowulf, I just heard stuff along the lines that Tolkien's sucks balls big and that it's no wonder that he didn't want to publish it


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