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THREE GREATEST WRITERS EVER:

SHAKESPEARE: USELESS "FAMILY MAN"

DANTE: LITERALLY A TRAMP

MILTON: LOWLY SCHOOLTEACHER

WHAT DO THEY HAVE IN COMMON?

THEY WERE NOTHING MORE THAN MIDDLE-LOWER CLASS CHUMPS

WHAT DOES THIS MEAN?

ARISTOCRATIC BOURGEOIS WRITERS LIKE GOETHE, HUGO ETC ARE PURE SHITE

RICH PEOPLE CANT WRITE GOOD LITERATURE
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That's not how logic works, OP.
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>THEY WERE NOTHING MORE THAN MIDDLE-LOWER CLASS CHUMPS

literally all three of them were among "the 1%" of their time.
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>>8320835
I agree but Milton is garbage.

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just bee urself :^)
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But I'm frightened, Albert.
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>le_absurd_face.jpeg
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when life gives u lemons make lemonade :)

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any works of literature that portray us all as unwitting pawns working on behalf of some larger force? idea has been on my mind lately and i'm interested in what the greats may have written about it.

not necessarily looking for something conspiratorial involving an illuminati-like group, though i'm not necessarily opposed to those either. ideally the 'force' would transcend humanity in some way.
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>>8320746
Das Kapital
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>>8320746
The trial
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Any history book.

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>start reading Nietzsche
>manage to convince myself that Nietzsche has an answer to nihilism
>realize that "start with the Greeks" doesn't just apply to literature but philosophy even more so
>start with the Greeks in philosophy
>find new motivation in life - can't kill myself before I've read Nietzsche
>read every day
>life starts looking...
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>>8320678
You may want to treat the mental illness, you fucking idiot
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>>8320686
No shit man, that hasn't been going too well though. And now my Psychologist is on summer vacation.
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>>8320690
Have you tried just being yourself?

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Why does /lit/ hate George R. R. Martin?
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>>8320658
Because he is popular at the moment.
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>>8320663
/thread
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Because he shit talks Tolkien constantly, while being a worse writer and world builder (and far and away more unrealistic with interactions, despite his claims)

Plus he's a fat annoying piece of shit

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Is there any book reviewer on Youtube that fits the following criteria:

1. Reads challenging books
2. Has never reviewed a young adult novel
3. Is male

If so please link them here.
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There's Better Than Food who is a meme here, but his reviews suck
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>>8320590
You need more rigorous criteria.

To my knowledge, the Better than Food guy has never reviewed a young adult novel, he is male, and he "reads" challenging books.

But he is not worth watching for even a second.

If you really must watch someone's youtube videos about books, I don't understand this desire, then you should find someone that fits the following criteria:

1. Attractive (to you).
2. Pleasing voice.
3. Some other quality you like to watch

To my knowledge,...
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>>8320620
Cliff is very attractive and he has a nice voice too

What's the best Asian language to learn for books?
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>>8320540
english
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>>8320546
thats not asian desu
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>>8320598
its the best language to learn for asian books

I want to read a poet (or writer of any kind of literature) that presents the same wealth of imagery, the same incessant overflowing of metaphors that Shakespeare’s work possesses.

I can’t find any other writer that loves metaphors and verbal fire-works as much as Shakespeare, so I would like a suggestion. Many poets (famous poets) are most of the time just making versified prose (the language is simple, the metaphors classic and predictable, everything balanced and ordered: I am thinking in writers like Virgil, Horace, Goethe): they know a lot about rhythm and elegance, but they don’t have the same baroque jungle of Shakespeare’s plays.

So, if you guys can offer some suggestions I would love that (and please, no Joyce: he rarely offers us something as beautiful and poetic as the ending paragraph of The Dead; his poetics are different).
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Try Neruda, post some of his poems here if you want
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>>8320558

I would love that. Have read some of his work and liked a lot. But if you can post some of your favorites, please, do.
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Shakespeare was (and still is) the king of metaphors. No one equals him.

That being said Donne has some pretty unique metaphors. Read "the flea" for a good example.

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How do i write decent high school girls characters?
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watch the anime k-on, you will learn a lot
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>>8320532
>it's an 'OP is a /ressentiment9k/ frogman who wants to talk about how inferior the girls who didn't want to fuck him in high school were' episode
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>>8320565
shut up virgin

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Has anyone here read on LSD?
You can't really do it while peaking, but reading while coming down is dope.

I've read Portrait of the Artists as a Young Man and some ee cummings poems while tripping and they were both fantastic.

What do you recommend to read while tripping?
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nothing but i wrote lot of incoherent ramblings i had trouble to read next day, despite having very profound feelings like "OMG I FOUND IT" while writing it
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Flip through a dictionary at random; that's always been really fun for me.
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I've never read on lsd, just couldn't focus for Shit. Now pot on the other hand, I'm pretty Gravity's rainbow was intended to be read high.

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Post books you knew nothing about when you started reading them, but they turned out to be great. I guess you could call it a positive surprise. Ill start with this gem.
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>>8320489
Mein Kampf. Thought it was a meme but it changes my life

Schopenhauer's 'On Women'. Though it was some bitter /r9k/ loser but really it was the most redpilled thing I've read since Hitler

I thank those two for the man I've become today
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Genuinely interesting. I thought it would be a collection of unfounded "wisdoms" à la facebook Confucius quotes, but there's actually some pretty interesting thought behind it all.
The introduction did half the work, I guess though.

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No idea what other board I would put this on so here it goes

So is this sentence correct?

"With each step he took – the voice in his head telling him he was being stalked kept on getting louder."

Thx in advance /lit/
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>>8320480
No
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>>8320493
What's wrong with it?
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>>8320480

It's correct if you take out the dash and use a simple comma instead:
>With each step he took, the voice in his head telling him he was being stalked kept on getting louder.
Your impulse to use a dash could come in handy in clarifying the sentence a little; see what you think of this option:
>With each step he took, the voice in his head–telling him he was being stalked–kept on getting louder.
This sets that 'telling...'...
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Are all ethical stances besides 'might is right' silly nonsense?
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>>8320373
No
Might is right in the moment but always fails in the long run. Long term rational self interest will provide the most happiness for the longest period of time. That being said no philosophy is "right"
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>>8320373
Why would it be nonsense? They clearly make sense
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>>8320381
You're saying that 'might is right' is a flawed ethical position because rational egoism serves the ideal of your presupposed ethical position of utilitarianism the most.

You must now justify your utilitarianism.

Which of these is the best medium for writing: the typewriter, the computer, or by hand? Discuss.
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Pencil and paper for me, although I'm a high schooler so I'm not an authority on this.
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>>8320314
Pen and paper for rough drafts. Computer for editing.
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>>8320314
Agnostics!

That looks just like my typewriter.

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>We went therefore home with Polemarchus,and found there his brothers Lysias and Euthydemus,and,along with them,Thrasymachus of Chalcedon,and Charmantides the Paeanian,and Cleitophon the son of Aristonymus.Polemarchus's father,Cephalus,was also in the house.
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>>8320297
Every time you come across a long-ass Greek name in the Republic, just give them a nickname.

Polemarchus can be "Polly" for example. Lysias is "Lizzy". Euthydemus is "Ethan" and so on. Just pick names that you are comfortable with.
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>>8320323
>subvocalizing
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>>8320340
>memes

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Is it worth learning Russian just to read classic Russian literature? Cпacибo
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read a translation you fuck
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>>8320246
A lot of Tolstoy hasn't been translated
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> learning a whole language to read some books
Who actually does this? There are just too many flaws to this.

the weird frontier between post irony and new sincerity are these millennials the saviors of literature?
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>>8320235
>a women
>a nonwhite

I wouldn't even read them ironically. I'm fucking redpilled and proud to be white and male
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shut the fuck up you fucking faggot retard and stop posting this thread
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>>8320235
Tao is, Gonzalez isn't.

>>8320257
>not appreciating asians as the only non-white human race

Start with the Germans.

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Which writers/novels explore sadness the best?

I'm really interested in sadness and writing about it, so I'd like to read some stuff that explores it too.

Also open to philosophers that explore it too.

It doesn't necessarily have to be about depression by the way.
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>>8320202
Infinite jest
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>>8320202
Why don't you stop crying, go on the alpha thread that's up right now, and learn to be a man?
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>I'll just be a nurse, he said

is the Spanish Civil War the most /lit/ military conflict in history? seems like a lot of poets, novelists, and intellectuals were involved in it. are there any other notable /lit/ wars?
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First World War
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>>8320188
The ongoing one between Reddit and 4chan
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>>8320188
Read The Man Who Loved Dogs. Some of it takes place in the civil war. it's wonderful.

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Hi /lit/, I have a bit of a problem. I can't read in a place that has a lot of noise, it's really bugging me. Does anyone else have this problem? If so, what helps you read?
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>>8320182
Noise canceling headphones
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>>8320200
This
And I've had success listening to this album also https://youtu.be/LL998ajnjN4
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>>8320182
go somewhere quiet to read

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What's the verdict, /lit/? These guys any good? Can I trust that they will always (or at least most of the time) publish books worth reading? What's the paper/binding quality like?
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>>8320166
No, they don't always publish books worth reading.

Their CEO recently resigned due to health reasons, and the direction of the company has been changing.
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>>8320175
In what way? I'm skeptical about the emphasis they seem to place on creative writing workshops...
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>>8320166
The only particularly notable writers they publish are Coover and McElroy. Haven't seen much reason to explore their other stuff.

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Reminder that if you don't memorize a poem once a week at the very least, then you can't even come close to calling yourself a patrician.
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>>8320157
I have dozens of poems memorized, from short rhyming ones to Ulysses, Prufrock, and Thanatopsis, and I'm still far from patrician. What went wrong?
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>>8320160
You're a faggot.
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>>8320160
Keep working at it, my son.

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when did you realize all the great writers didn't waste their time on the internet
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I don't know, John Green spends a lot of time on the internet.
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To be fair, most great philosophers/writers would have spent their days shitposting on 4chan if internet had existed in their days.
Kirkegaard is /his/. Schopenhauer would have definitely roastie-posted. etc
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>>8320111
You say wasting time, I say gathering material.

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Does /lit/ like Peter Matthiessen?
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Is the revised edition of Shadow Country better than the original trilogy?
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dont know ho but thats an unusually good picture portrait
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>>8320084
They should but i guess there arent enough memes about him for anyone to care. "Lumumba Lives" is one of the best short stories i've read.

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>hmm how I can write a YA novel but market it for adults?
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>>8319996
Just go use the bathroom.
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>>8319996
If you want to write a YA novel and market it to adults, just skip the bullshit and write a straight up adult novel.
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I don't understand /lit/'s dislike of this book. It was clearly written and marketed towards the DnD crowd. I don't think it's even attempting to be "literature", it's just fantasy geared towards nerds who like dnd and bards.

Is Bishop Barron worth reading or watching?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xe5kVw9JsYI
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>>8319968
God exists because life is unfulfilling without belief in God. "Our hunger for god proves the existence of God". Lmao. What a massive turd.
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>>8319968
>catholic
only good Catholic was Aquinas, and even then he wasn't spectacular
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>>8320057
>Tolkien

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How many times while reading this have you just stopped and said "literally me" ?
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every other line, Anon
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>>8319963
none- never read it.

did that with AK though, anon
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>>8319963
Every time Pierre did something

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how do I get better at debate?
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read cicero
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I just have extreme confidence in what I say, even if it's all wrong
it's called lying to yourself
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>>8319960
is there any work of his I should focus on/start with?

I have a 2:1 Crap to Classic reading ratio. For example, I read 2 Stephen King to for every 1 Tolstoy. Does anyone else try to read stuff that challenges them but also allows themselves to read stuff that's really just fun?
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>the classics aren't fun
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>>8319847
you're just a pleb, the "good" literature is plenty "fun"
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>>8319847
Ye that's about what I do. There are definitely "fun" classics but desu most of them are really dull despite being obviously good

hey so i'm high evading some work i have to do

i dont want to talk about literature, i almost never post

but i would argue with someone

ask me anything, take a stance, i'll fight you

lets start a verboise brawl

i'll let you know i'm quite intelligent

go
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>>8319834
Blacks are inferior to whites
Women are inferior to men
Conservatives are superior to liberals

Prove me wrong
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You're gay and stupid
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>>8319839

The last student to enter the main hall of the academia was not even late; everyone was hurrying to be present at their Dean of Philosophy's Masterclass. The sombre professor walks about his pivotal spot in the Amphitheatre, shadowless, followed by a white toga. The doors shut are shut, the class is seated, and the professor without a word takes a hat from the audience, plunges a hand, dives an post, pulls and reads alound:

"Blacks are inferior to whites
Women are inferior to men
Conservatives...
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