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So is this our new meme lit?
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bump, kek'd hard at the anon pushing this obscure book
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this looks like it belongs in >>8309414

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Reading this and im enjoying so far, and i wonder is there is some other collections of mythology of cultures from around the world? I know about the greek one but what about china or the aztecs?
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>>8314459
Does Oxford have one of Greece? I love mythology and have never gotten around to look for collections.
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>>8314459
I spent my childhood reading these.

Learning the history of ancient civilisations necessitates learning about their belief systems. It's impossible to read Plato without understanding what it meant to live in Attic Greece and to worship at the temple of Apollo, or what relationship the Oracle had with divine truth in the mind of the people.

Amusingly enough we fully understand that we can't know a person or people - in a historical sense - without engaging with what they believe to be true -...
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>>8314485
>cut-throat celts
lel

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>Some years ago — never mind how long precisely — having little or no money in my purse, and nothing particular to interest me on shore, I thought I would sail about a little and see the watery part of the world. It is a way I have of driving off the spleen and regulating the circulation. Whenever I find myself growing grim about the mouth; whenever it is a damp, drizzly November in my soul; whenever I find myself involuntarily pausing before coffin warehouses, and bringing up the rear of every funeral I meet; and especially whenever my hypos get such...
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how do you know?
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>>8314427
Melville is da gawd what's your point

like posting Shakespeare
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>>8314427
Meh. Wordy doesn't mean good.

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How has the DUDE ITS 2016 EVERYBODY JUST LOVE EACH OTHER MAN crowd managed to present themselves as the authority on the Bible? Literally the whole premise of the New Testament is that everybody is worthy of damnation and the only way to heaven is by joining the Good Group.
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>>8314415
They're cucks brainwashed by leftist ideology.

The subordination of women, the extirpation of faggots, and racial segregation are integral to any RIGHT interpretation of God's Word.
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>>8314425
based on what?
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>>8314444
The Word of God, moron

When western civilisation finally collapses and the Islamic caliphate (or some version of it, depending on what kinds of reforms take place in Islam over the next century) finally takes over, will ideas like "civilisation", "democracy" and "rational scepticism" completely die out, or will they be survive but be recast as Islamic ideas?
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>>8314354
Lay off the /pol/ koolaid, my fellow redpilled friend
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>>8314366
Actually I'm a classic liberal (not full libertarian since that is a broken ideology) grounded in Bayle, Spinoza and Thomas Payne. Literally no theory of racial inheritence, and I don't need one since Islam is a state of mental surrender.

If you want to discuss it purely as a hypothetical, you can.

However if you can't even engage with the question, then you're not thinking clearly about the issue.

And of course, the absolute worst thing you can do in a discussion is to tar...
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>>8314391
Your shit OP didn't warrant any serious response.

Tell me how western civilization is collapsing and how an Islamic caliphate is seizing power.

Then we can discuss your retarded question

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What did he mean by this?
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bump for interest, what the devil? Have we finally surpassed post-modernism?
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bumpidy
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>>8314371
>surpassed post-modernism
How? What?

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how can i force myself to write if i can't up with anything
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>>8314308
Maybe writing isn't your thing?
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don't try

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>It's an "agent rejects your prompt" email
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>>8314244
>it's a "no discernible talent" post

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so my uni sent me a letter about a weekend program they're hosting where they claim to help you "advance your reading comprehension and double your wpm". do you think it would be worth going to or does it seem like some sham? i'm not a terrible reader but i thought maybe it could help me get even better.

what do you think? do any of you have experience with these types of things? did it help?
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>>8314239
These tend to be exercises in efficient skimming, picking out the key ideas in a paragraph without consciously reading the whole thing. Of limited use in, say, reading newspapers, totally useless with literature where the style and atmosphere is more significant than the "key facts", and actively dangerous in studying textbooks because you can too easily miss important things.

And almost always a short sampler lesson to lure you into paying for a fuller course.
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>tfw read evrything like it's scripture
Call it autism if you wish, but I can't imagine just skipping over words. If I am reading something, I'm reading it.

Do you write enough to accomplish your goals?
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>>8314016
No

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>Buy copy of "I, Robot" with the promo poster for the Will Smith film as the cover art
>Spend more time while reading trying to figure out exactly what these things have in common than I do following the action
Seriously, has any other remake done more damage to the source material than that movie? It used like 5% of the book's content, at most, and nothing about it resembled Asimov. I mean, Jackson's Hobbit trilogy was closer to the source material than this movie.
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>>8313977
I raise you a Johnny Mnemonic. One of the few reasons why we should be glad Neuromancer hasn't been adapted.
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>>8313977
Why does Will Smith like to star in adaptions that shit all over the source material?
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>>8313988
Is it really that bad?

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Book equivalent to LSD: Dream Emulator? (Besides from the actual dream journal, I'm already planning on reading it)
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Why not actually read it instead of planning to? Step away from this thread until you have.
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So something surreal and unsettling, with an emphasis on dreams and with extensive use of the unexpected?
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2666 is like a long nightmare.
Excellent book.

I'm curious what you use besides /lit/ to inform your literary opinions and refine your taste?

I listen to Bookworm with Michael Silverblatt, but I'm looking for other sources. Please share.
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I read books.
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Bookworm is great.
Whenever I start to listen to a podcast I always laugh at Michael Silverblatt's voice.
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christine of polandbananasBOOKS xd

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What are /lit/ favorite meta books?
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The Ultimate Encyclopedia of Mythology

and...
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The Exegesis of Philip K. Dick

is pretty good
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>>8313956
That is a good book.

Good books in which the protagonist has amnesia and tries to find out who they are?
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Latro in the Mist
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>>8314021
this, Soldier of Sidon was also a superb sequel and one my favourite books.
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>>8313913
Random Harvest

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I'm 26 years old and I've only read 3-4 books in my life. What book should I read?
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How to kill yourself
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Bible
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>>8313895
>I'm 26 years old and I've only read 3-4 books in my life.
why

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Which philosophical movement best describes our current generation?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_postmodernism
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hello?
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>>8314376
YOU HAVE TO START WITH YOUR OWN IDEA YOU MONGOLOID POOFDUMP
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>>8313894
what is this picture conveying?

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Hey /lit/ recommend me the hottest, sexiest shit you know
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>>8313830
Lolita
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La Vita Nuova

Seriously, the way that guy describes Beatrice, you just KNOW she was hot

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Use this thread to ask for /lit/-recommended translations of works.

I'll start by asking -- what are the best English translations of Homer's Odyssey, Herodotus' Histories and Hesiod's Theogyny and Work & Days?
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Best translation of Mein Kampf?
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>reading translations
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The best translations of Homer are Fagles, Lattimore, and Fitzgerald. Fitzgerald takes the most poetic license, Lattimore is the most literal, and Fagles is in between the two.

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Please don't believe all the liars on this page who claim to have read - and understood - everything. They're totally full of shit. This page is not full of savants, and any book worth your time is going to take just that - time - to fully appreciate.

Also, reading aloud - especially fiction - is not a crime and is often the only way to fully appreciate a book. You're not going to enjoy Ulysses or In Search of Lost Time without hearing the prose read out loud. Anyone who says otherwise is totally full of shit.
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I thought the whole point of Ulysses is that everybody is literally full of shit
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Absolutely this

What is some literature for people who feel like they know nothing, feel like they are nothing, like they are just drifting in this strange, strange world?
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Literature isnt "for" anybody, it is of people, but if general existential dread is your problem youre in luck because most of it comes from people with that anyway
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>>8313783
Notes from the underground - Fyodor Dostoyevsky
No longer human - Osamu Dazai
The death of Ivan Ilich - Lev Tolstoi
The stranger - Albert Camus
The tunnel - Ernesto Sábato
The metamorphosis - Franz Kafka

If you're lucky enough, after reading those you will have less doubts on ending your life on this strange, strange world!
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>>8313817
Really good list.

I would be extremely grateful if you could suggest which translations to pick up for:

1. Notes from underground
2. Death of Ivan Ilyich
3. The tunnel.

Which translations are considered the best for these?

Any of you read Italian Knausgaard? What did you think.
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>>8313763
Nope. Haven't read Bridget Jones either.
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That's insulting. She's a hell of a lot better than Knausgaard.
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>>8313763
So a series of novels makes you Knausgaard? I can't think of any other similarities

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What's a book that will re-sensitize even the most desensitized soul?
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none really sorry pal
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>>8313745

my diary desu
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Eragon

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decided to try out this stupid service again, any worthwhile literary accounts i should follow? so far i've got nick land
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Pick up a book and read it, leave twitter alone.
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@PolarWashington
@gnOmebooks
@cryptbooks
@wint
@tifdaff
@RuinOfVandal

etc
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>>8313743

not norm, he's team leo

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This is not a shitposting thread, please direct yourself to the 5 other DFW shitposting threads in the catalog.

Can we have an actual discussion on DFW's view of entertainment and media? Here's a primer if you haven't read IJ and want to join in: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUf2MiNKqVc

Is he right? Are we going to create media that is so perfect that we would rather consume a piece of media just one more time if it meant dying of dehydration? Since DFW was a known heroin addict, it's easy to see where he is coming from with this perspective....
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>>8313700
He was a known heroin addict? Can I have a source for this?

Is there another author that embodies 4chan as much as Houellebecq?
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>>8313685
Probably not.

>Certains êtres éprouvent très tôt une effrayante impossibilité à vivre par eux-mêmes; au fond ils ne supportent pas de voir leur propre vie en face, et de la voir en entier, sans zones d'ombre, sans arrière-plans. Leur existence est j'en conviens une exception aux lois de la nature, non seulement parce que cette fracture d'inadaptation fondamentale se produit en dehors de toute finalité génétique mais aussi en raison de l'excessive lucidité...
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>>8313685

Maybe
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He's the Dostoevsky of hte 21st century.

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Do we privilege the author or the work?
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>>8313663
in my ironfisted authoritarian dictatorship works will all be published anonymously to encourage discourse on aesethics rather than the cancers of egos and agenda
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But does the privilege then in turn work the author or the work author the privilege?
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Who Knows

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i'm finally doing it, i've decided to dive into Ulysses and try to understand it the best I can. My question to you is how should I go about using the annotations? as of now i'm marking in the annotations in the chapter before i read them so i don't have to flip back and forth between books, but its a very long process and it expands my reading time by a good hour or two (sometimes even more depending on the length of the chapter), is there a more convenient way to do this? how did you read the book? did you even use annotations at all?
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Sounds like quite an undertaking.. I for one havent read it but im wondering what did you read as 'preparation' for it?
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>read the chapter with annotations
>read the corresponding chaptee of Stuart Gilbert's "James Joyce's Ulysses"
>read the chapter again without annotations

It goes without saying that you should read carefully, take notes, and concentrate on difficult passages.
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>>8313666
i've read through the odyssey multiple times, with annotations bc i heard that Ulysses is a retelling of that a lot, i've also read a lot of prose-heavy work to try and get use to the style, as well as i've read other Joyce works to familiarize myself with his style. i've read multiple essays on Ulysses and gathered multiple perspectives. its been more than a year leading up to this point, and i'm still not sure if i'm ready

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Do any /lit/ anons know any resources for learning Latin?

Are there any anons that can speak/read Latin? If so how did you go about practicing it?
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I can speak and read Latin.
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>>8313632
How did you go about learning and practicing it?
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Have you ever learned a second language before?

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I need something uplifting to read /lit/

Books with a positive message about humanity please
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the descent of the dove by charles williams
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East of Eden desu
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>>8313603
pic related

it's literally goodenough


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