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What books make you feel what this album does?
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>>8293536
My ass!
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>Being moved by music
how... quaint
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>>8293536
I honestly don't understand why everyone shits themselves over this album.

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>Hera's trying to fuck this guys dumb ass on top of a mountain
>nigga starts talking about all the bitches he fucked
Is Zeus the most retardedly alpha character in all of fiction?
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No. He's not a character, he's a god
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nigga fuck bitches nigga nigga bitch
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>>8293529
What's the difference?

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Is there a way to block out every single sound in your environment when you're reading? Maybe sound isolating ear muffs? That's really the only thing I can imagine working. I want to totally block out every single sound around me, because I get very distracted.
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You will never block out the internal sound

Wearing yhose would only make your breathing even more distracting
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>>8293469
There's children and construction outside of my house all the time. I would much rather hear monotonous, repetitive sounds that come from my own breathing and pulse than the shreaks of my neighbor's children.
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I use cheap sound-isolating earmuffs, and I love them. To block out virtually everything, you'll have to pay more, but I usually put on my regular headphones underneath the muffs and turn on some white noise.

I don't hear myself breathing with them on. I don't see how you would unless you huff like a Neanderthal.

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Who are the Aurorals ?
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Do you now of the Sunflower club and Stargirl ?
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>>8293472
Nice 72


Feel the Love and Let it in ?
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Communicate with Love ?

This stone will also resonate out the love energy into its surrounds

https://youtu.be/q75keWNt1To

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What works best describe the ongoing white genocide?

I've already read Das Kapital
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White genocide is literally peak perceived victimhood. You are a professional victim and self-centrist if you believe it exists.

I say this as someone who is white as snow.
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You should probably just read Gene Wolfe ir Legend of the Elementals or whatever the post-ironic irony losers read these days
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>>8293457
>white as snow
mite want 2 go 2 the doctor dude, that aint healthy

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why do people here blame one person for all the corncob tortillas YeCarthy hate?
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Because it is mostly one person. A few have jumped on the memewagon as well, but largely it is just one very autistic bald maf
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>>8293430
Because he's trying to force a shit meme to discredit a very good author.

If you rate bloom as a literary critic, then take a look at what he had to say about Blood Meridian.
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>>8293440
but I remember people talking shit about tortillas before that video

What is so hard about reading Catch-22?
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>>8293413
something about it really winds people up the wrong way. i don't know how they drop it either, but it is one of the more common love it or hate it entry level books.
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It's an extremely popular book that is kind of long, so you get people who don't read picking it up and quickly remembering that they don't have the patience to read.
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>>8293413
It's long and not linear. It's a popular book so people that don't read often might try it because they've heard of it.
This combo leads to people dropping it.
It's actually not a very difficult read though.

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What are some must-reads if you're an anti-semitic, woman-hating nationalist white supremacist?
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Sex and Character - Otto Weininger.
Anything by Evola.
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my diary desu
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>>8293375
Weininger claims that man's love for a woman is narcissistic. I will not read such feminist drivel. Man's love is pure and true unlike that of women

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Post your favourite fantasy series.
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>>/plebgeneral/
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>>8293381
Gormenghast is barely even fantasy friend, it's closer to Joyce than to Tolkien or God forbid trash like Rothfuss or Bakker.
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>>8293370
The Chronicles Of Amber, best thing ever for me, besides Tolkien in fantasy. Top tier stuff.

If you'd allow me to have a serious discussion, I'd like to ask a question. How does someone seriously get into philosophers like Hegel and Schopenhauer and anyone else who has that dense, highly intellectualized writing? Maybe some of you can read it with ease (although I'd imagine many of you just claim you can read it to seem smart), but do most people just avoid reading those actual texts and just read about them from reputable sources?
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>>8293369
I honestly think the easiest way to comprehend those texts in this day and age is to start on some kind of a religious yet secular path. It helps with abstraction. I can understand starting with the greeks but point remains that the greeks themselves had a particular vernacular specific to their times, and the words they used weren't necessarily employed in the same way they are today. You want to learn the philosophical dialect. So read the Bible, the Avesta, some Upanishads, the Quran, then some classical literature,...
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Any ultra dense text is an effort of multiple readings. Sometimes spaced out over years as you connect the parts.

It's more of a study than a reading

You read it. Go back and start trying to fill in the parts you are most lost about. Read it again, repeat.
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>>8293369

Just watch a 5 minute youtube video and pretend you know everything about their ideas.

/lit memes you're GLAD you fell for
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>>8293352
I came in with sort of shaky foundations. Half-assed mythology, didn't read the whole theban trilogy, only read the illiad and not the odyssey, etc.
Was a right joy going back and reading the stuff properly. Same goes for philosophy.
Only regret is that I came here in part to improve my English, and instead I've only been reading translated stuff.
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mason and dixon
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Stoner

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https://www.reddit.com/r/books/comments/4teozs/have_you_ever_had_to_stop_reading_a_novel_because/

>Nobody has really read Finnegan's Wake. People only make the claim and nobody can call them out on it, as they've never read it either.
>Nah, not entirely a prank, although there are lots of prankish elements to Joyce's later work - Ulysses, for instance, is filled with meaningless themes and arbitrary motifs specifically designed to throw academics off the trail of his true meaning.


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>>8293299
Why are you going to reddit?
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>The most apparent book that comes to mind is the first Dune. There was way too much going on with the political details, history, and nomenclature. My poor teenage mind couldn't follow it all.

Also:

>past Chapter 2. It is so boring. Also, in grad school I was assigned Proust's "Remembrance of things past" and I couldn't finish it. Of course I was in a M.A. French Lit program and reading the original text so there's that.

M.A. in French Lit but too stupid to read Moby-Dick...
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>>8293374
Oops, accidentally cut off the bit where he can't read Mony-Dick.

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Thoughts?
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>>8293241
Good book misappropriated by edge-lords and fedoras.
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>>8293241
One of the best film adaptions I've seen desu
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Good book, terrible film adaptation. Leaving out the last chapter from the film ruins the entire point.

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Is he in hiding?
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>>8293232

Pynchon has friends and family and goes outside and stuff. He's not a total recluse. He just doesn't want a media presence.

I'm sure if you want you could do some snooping around and stalk him, snap a picture or two, but no one has tried that for a while now.

fun fact: the photogropher of this picture wanted to shake Pynchon's hand but he told him to "Get your fucking hand away from me. I don't like people taking my picture!"
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>>8293242
das not my man pynch
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>>8293242
Who cares about photo's though?

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Hey /lit/ Wanna get into some Philosophy. Who should I start with? Some Greek niggas?
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Plato's dialogs, of course.
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>>8293182

No, he should really start with the pre-socratics.
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>>8293195
No. He should start with Plato, and then move on to the pre-socratics.

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Why the fuck do people put these ugly cases on their books?
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>>8293138
they sell the book; once it is purchased it may be removed
i keep them because it makes finding an individual book easier on my shelves
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>>8293138
It keeps the sun off
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>>8293138

Literature is just as commercial as any other form of media. Gaudy designs appeal to the masses.

>2.64 MB, 3072x4096

Was that really necessary for slip cover?

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My friend's dog just died, and I was thinking of getting him this collection of Jack London's canine stories.

I've not read it myself, are they any good?

Also, I'm a bit deficient when it comes to social norms. Is it acceptable to give someone a book of dog stories when they're grieving their best friend? I can't tell if it's a good idea or not.
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>>8293109
>I've not read it myself, are they any good?
I think they are among the best of classic American literature, and are also very accessible to none readers.

> Is it acceptable to give someone a book of dog stories when they're grieving their best friend?
I think the best thing would be nothing, asked the wife and she concurred. Offer condolences.
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Their good books, but that's fucked. Don't buy that for him..
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>>8293109
I get you have good intentions but if you can't see why that would be a bad idea then maybe you need to re-assess the situation, OP. Fellow dog-lover here who lost his best canine buddy a year ago today: I can confirm that it will feel insensitive, even if you mean well. Give him a few months and then recommend him the book if you think he'd enjoy it/if you enjoyed it.

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Billy Shakes and Chuck Dickens wrote to entertain the plebs of the day and now their work is revered as high art.

Do you think that time will see today's pleb fiction become tomorrow's patrician lit?
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>>8293037
>mistaking effect for cause this hard
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>>8293037
>mistaking effect for cause this hard
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>Dickens
>High art

>Shakes
>Written only for plebs

Shakespeare is like a good kids show, on one level retarded and simple for kids, and on another full of hidden meanings and innuendo to keep parents entertained

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I want to dive into John Keats' poems. Some recommendations? Is there a good starting point for any collected works?

I found a 'Hyperion: a fragment' book but I don't know if that poem is incomplete (for the 'a fragment' subtitle).
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Hyperion is very good. Keats abandoned the poem because it was too Miltonic ( that's what "A Fragment" refers to), but there's some incredible stuff in it.

Anything from 1819 (his odes especially) and 1820 is genius, just about the most sustained period of brilliance in English verse. He's also one of great sonneteers in English, so check them out too.
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>>8293017
any Keats collected or selected works will certainly have all the famous poems and starting points

the odes -autumn, nightingale, Grecia urn, psyche, melancholy
when I have fears I may cease to be
on sitting down to dead king lear again
on seeing the Elgin marbles
are all good starting points.

I recommend saving hyperion fall of hyperion and endymion for later.
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Oh yeah, and don't read Endymion either. It's so sickly sweet I feel like vomiting every time I read past the first book (song of Pan is good though).

Just a daily reminder that reading to become more cultured is motivated by the same kind of narcissism as obsessing with makeup or fancy clothes.
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>>8292925
And how is that bad? Strive for excellence on every field or don't try at all
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You're kind of right, but at least reading to become more cultured provides the opportunity for the reader to better themselves and become a more well-rounded person, while those other things you mentioned just waste money.
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>>8292925
lol no

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Is there any book that will help me stop being so indecisive?

It's become a serious problem in my life. I'm completely paralyzed by it and my life has completely stagnated. Whenever I dedicate myself to something, there's always this nagging frustration i'm wasting my time going down the wrong path, so I always just end up back to square one -- sat here alone in my room twiddling my thumbs, fantasizing about what could have been and what could be.
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Siddhartha is a pretty good book about carving your own path.
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Atlas Shrugged
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The Defining Decade seems to be on the issue you're describing. Started on it, but haven't gotten around to finishing it, but if I remember correctly (it's been a while), the gist of it is just to pick something and go for it. It's alright if you end up not liking the path you chose, but having started, you may come up on to other opportunities you would not have had otherwise, and those can lead to other sets of opportunities, and so on, until you eventually land on something you like.

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Why isn't Shakespeare considered a fantasy writer?

I mean... Oberon, Titania and the other fairies in Midsummer, Hamlet's ghost dad, the three witches in Macbeth, the sorcerers/sprites/spirits in The Tempest... etc.
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>>8292841
idk
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>>8292841
>some fantastical elements = fantasy writer

Come on now
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Fantasy is largely a post Tolkein phenomenon dominated by world building and things of that kind. People just don't put things taken from myth and fairy tale in the same basket.

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What does /lit/ think of Johnny Got His Gun by Dalton Trumbo? I found it really disturbing and yet very captivating... the way the author writes his characters and his prose style makes it a very in-depth and fast read. I read it in a day. I liked it, even though it was such a sad and achingly poignant book. Good stuff.
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>>8292812
Its basically MUH MERICA and other kind of drivel, for the emotionally retarded.
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>>8292837
Literally untrue, its first and foremost anti-war, and then below that a call for the universality of humanity.

>>8292812
I read it in highschool, but it has always been up there in my favorite books. The chapters where he focuses on his nerve endings to figure out what happens to him, and his "speech" via morse code are my favorite parts. Also the perpetual dreamlike state he exists in is compelling.
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>>8292837
>dalton trumbo
>literally put in prison for being a gommie
>muh america

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Red pill me on Zizek


He's so pleasantly deranged but i have no idea what his actual philosophy entails; i just laugh at him.
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>mad slovenian man robs DVD publisher blind! must see! [18+]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OqpxT_iJ8Mc
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>>8292788
>i have no idea what his actual philosophy entails; i just laugh at him.
this is zizek fans if they were all honest
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>>8292795
>incest between mother and son, I like this
What did he mean by this?

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Think about it...

There are more books printed and translated into many languages than any point in human history. His fanbase of constant readers is MASSIVE and his books sell like crazy all over the world. Add to that how prolific he is and it makes me curious if anyone has ever had more human beings read their stories than Stephen King.
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>>8292739
I think folks were illiterate when he wrote that and the Quran.

Given the current literacy rates, I'm going with Stephen King. He's a much better writer than God.
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>Classicists watch in horror as modern genre fiction authors creep closer and closer to the top spot
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>>8292747
Goddamnit, I forgot about overrated ass Shakespeare.

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ITT we post the worst shmoop summary we can find
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>>8292523
That's really accurate tho
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I've only watched the animu of this. Is there any reason to care about the book?
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>>8292893
>Is there any reason to care about the book?

Yes.

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Im trying to find a book i read years ago but I remember next to nothing about it, not even the title or author.
>its about some kid who's vacationing in alaska and crashes his snow mobile
>some guy finds him, I think his name was Hank
>they fight the 2 antagonists, cant remember why the were fighting, one antagonist was short and fat I think
>It turns out Hank is in Alaska because he commited manslaughter on his best friend or something
I've...
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>>8292467
Ethan Frome by Edith Wharton
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>>8292475
Nope.
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I'm also trying to remember a book I read years ago. Maybe this can be a book finder thread? Here's mine:
>It starts out kind of spy themed like an Ian Fleming novel (but not Ian Fleming novel), but you know kind of Tom Clancy pulpy sort of.
>Basically this guy is standing by a private twin prop, he's American but he doesn't have a name or anything
>His men bring him some Soviet exmilitary type guys causing...
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"What does it feel like to be lonely? It feels like being hungry: like being hungry when everyone around you is readying for a feast. It feels shameful and alarming, and over time these feelings radiate outwards, making the lonely person increasingly isolated, increasingly estranged. It hurts, in the way that feelings do, and it also has physical consequences that take place invisibly, inside the closed compartments of the body. It advances, is what I’m trying to say, cold as ice and clear as glass, enclosing and engulfing."


What does the /lit/izens think...
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>>8292462

>Writes about loneliness
>can't conceptualize it in any way what so ever
>chooses to compensate it by faux 2deep5u sub standard proses.

GTFO.
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>>8292462
>>8292486
>1 reply
>1 IP
try and make your samefags a bit less obvious next time
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>>8292491

I've already read Faust, Young Werther and Wilhelm Meister's Apprentice and my mind hasn't been blown yet. I thought you guys said this guy was good? Did I miss something? Faust was pretty good, but nothing to write home about, and Sorrows is basically Twilight-tier (not even baiting here).
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Did you read them in German?
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>>8292259
No, but I read the best translations I could get my hands on. Doesn't that count for something?
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>>8292269
No.

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>he thinks that translations actually count as "reading nietzsche"
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Yeah. My native language is spoken by 5 million people only so I just can't, you know, get into this whole "language matters" thing. I have to pretend that translations are okay.

If I don't, it'll lead down to being like Heidegger, which, for me, would mean accepting that I just can't read any real philosophy since my native language isn't any good, has no philosophical history and so on.

Please understand.
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>it's an anon thinks meaning and language are inseparable episode
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>suggesting I'm still not basically just translating unless I spoke German with native proficiency and exposure
>suggesting that reading a translation by someone who does know German well doesn't put me close to the original meaning than me reading it in German myself with poorer understanding than the translator
>implying all reading isn't a form of transation anyway
Nigga, reading translations is the best option for the most part.


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