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I've never read any of his books but I hear good things.

What about him is meme? And what about him is good? Genuinely interested, as I see a lot of mixed reviews of him on here
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>>8289908
Pynchon is my favourite writer because goofs and so on
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>>8289908
Only college sophomore white upper-middle class males read him.

Same for Infinite Jest.
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>>8289908
Like every great writer, /lit/ goes through contrarian phases where it pretends to dislike them. Just read him and forget wtf /lit/ thinks.

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How hard is to get published if you want to share unpopular ideas? Would it be too risky if you want to enter in politics in a future?
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there won't be politics in the future
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Present them as satire,

Or create a sci-fi world that allows your views to slip under the radar.

Or present views opposing your own in such a way that readers are driven to yours.

Or find out if Resistance records does publishing.
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Your ideas are neither important nor original and your presentation will certainly be lackluster, but pls write about it so the masses can know to keep you out of power

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What books made you literally laugh out loud?

Pic related
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>>8289619
Diary of A Wimpy Kid
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>>8289619
Big Nate
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>>8289619
Diary Of A Wimpy Kid Dog Days

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>>8289618
No but it helps
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>>8289624
Yeah
Also it helps that you really liked girls when you were little and the experience haunts you
Also if you loved a little girl but she just went away.
Oh boy...
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>>8289618
nah, just an idiot

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Could the story have been told in one novel of reasonable publishing size?
How would you do it?
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>>8289569
Yeah, probably
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What's reasonable about making less money?
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>>8289569
>fourth cover
That's the ugliest dragon I've ever seen. It looks like an old, naked man with a cheap halloween mask on.

What's wrong with HP covers? Why does it always look like they're trying to make them as shitty as possible? It's the best selling series of all times, hire some decent artist ffs.

So /lit/, what fictional literature would you consider to be essential MRA-core? And why?

So far I've got
To Kill a Mockingbird
The Adventures of Tom Sawyer/Huckleberry Finn
The Old Man And The Sea

MRA-core would be any books about boys and men dealing with poverty and other male-centered issues, OR that focus heavily on the value of masculinity.
(Fedoracore is a broader category of literature than MRA-core, though MRA-core is definitely a subset of Fedoracore. Reacting to this post with an image of a guy wearing a fedora, while frowned upon,...
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>>8289452
Please eat a bullet
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>>8289452
If you're gonna make such bad bait at least put less effort into it. 0/10
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>>8289452
MRA is pleb tier. MGTOW it's where it's at, bro.

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I'm about to take the plunge. Still debating which tier journals to submit to, etc.

Experiences? Evil journals you've encountered? Would repeat?

Tl;dr Lit mag general
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>>8289376

http://thegrinder.diabolicalplots.com/

you know about this website? Pretty good to help you decide where to send your stuff. There was another site that ranked online journals by the ammount of Pushcart nominations they got, which sorta serves as a ranking system.
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Playing the game just cuz nobody reads novel manuscripts if you haven't published shorts :/
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>>8289401
http://cliffordgarstang.com/?p=4777

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I just wanted to write this to thank everyone in /lit.

I feel this is the best online community to discuss literature (it even surpasses 99% of all the non-virtual communities that I've been a part of).

I even enjoy the "bad" posts; I truly like not knowing when someone is criticizing a book honestly and when they're not. And, to be honest, the people that are just having a laugh bring a much appropriate vibe to the whole thing.

Some of my favorite books I've discovered because of you, and I've also come to have a more critical...
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>tfw you shitpost on /lit/ and get new books to read
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>>8289145
Kill yourself, pathetic faggot

>unironically appreciating the time he spends on here

You're a pathetic loser, go back to /r/books if you want to suck dick
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>>8289166
Haha nice post friend now you truly fit in into le 4chan community XD

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Whatchya reading, anon?
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>>8289113
feminism
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I--infinite J-jest. no bully, plis
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The fuck did I just read?
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ophere, memes aside I loved every single page of this book and Katherine Driscolle is best girl
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Wish I had the NYRB edition :(((((
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>>8288632
a novel that women will never understand

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Is this difficult?
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>>8288540
idk, but I can't wait to find out. I ordered a copy of it a few days ago.
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Not really. It's dense, but not difficult.
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>>8288549
Let me know how it goes

>>8290736
Is it good?

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http://wmjas.wikidot.com/nabokov-s-recommendations

How can one man be so right about everything?
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>>8288311
>Marx, Karl. Loathe him.
Kek, I wonder why.
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>>8288311
>Schweitzer, Albert -- Detest him.

Obviously made a bad impression at Koblsheim. Odd considering Schweitzer's cousin (Fritz) and Nabokov's cousin (Nicolas) were in fact very good friend and Fritz even let Nicolas feature on his programs.
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>>8288323
best post

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The Mysterious Visitor from Brothers Karamazov had me tearing up at the end.
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>>8288188

Teared up at parts from Pride and Prejudice just because I knew Lizzy and Mr Darcy were SO right for each other but they couldn't see it.
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2666 did.

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"Ulysses is unreadable. If you threw a dictionary in a wood-chipper it would come up with a very accurate and thematically similar sequel.

Reading Infinite Jest is like feeling around in a dark room full of mouse-traps. Sometimes you manage to find one and figure out how to disarm it, but it's more painful to keep going and in the end isn't worth it.

Gravity's Rainbow is sort of like listening to the radio when you're driving from one town to another and both towns have a station on the same frequency. In this case, one town has a WWII...
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>>8288144
Ulysses is in no way unreadable. That notion is what keeps many people from enjoying it. There are segments, of course, that are more difficult and sometimes antiquated than others, but even then the flow and beauty of the prose is enough to keep reading.

IJ one is pretty accurate

Thematic dualism is a valid style, and Pynchon makes it enjoyable. It's like listening to two radio stations playing complementary tracks.
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>>8288144
GIRUGAMESH
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>>8288144
this actually makes me want to read them more.

The fact that intelligent and artistically aware individuals wrote these works, and that these works sit within their ouvres of other works of unquestionable artistic merit, makes me want to wrestle with them.

I was already going to read Ulysses and maybe GR, but I didn't want to touch IJ and now I do.

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To make music you have got to know how to play an instrument. To make movies you need some willing actors and a camera. To make love you need a willing lover. To make computer games you need some painting and some coding skill. Thus those are arts. But how is writing an art? What makes a writer an artist? What are those special arts in which writing man excells? My dog can bark for you a Hemingway, a Robert Frost and a Chekhov. What is so special about people composing the pastas? And why do they deserve respect?
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I can reply, and in great detail, but it would be a waste of time.
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>>8286155
>open the door
>get on the floor
>everybody walks the dinosaur
thar. now it's art.
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Like music, the pen is an instrument too.

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Who is the Taylor Swift of literature?
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I don't know any conniving, back-stabbing authors off the top of my head.
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Nick Land
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>>8285562
do you really have to ask

why /lit/ hates Austen?
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Because all female writers are talentless hacks.
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>>8285117
>>>/r9k/
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>>8285117
because most of the population here are squeamish teenage eliots who simultaneously hate women and are desperate to find a girlfriend and the only way they can feel any kind of misguided superiority in their worthless lives is by hating popular things made by women

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Do you like to smoke weed before reading? Or do you find it makes it too difficult?
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>>8282724
Intellectualism is my drug.
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>>8282724
weed is for pleb musicians

caffeine, alcohol, nicotine, amphetamines, cocaine and opiates are literary drugs
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>>8282750
LSD sure seems to have done wonders for your "Ego Death".

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Write how would you introduce yourself as a character in a story
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>>8279783
>and but so then the handsomest motherfucker in the world walked in and every panty dropped as he recited The Iliad from memory in its original Greek
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Dear friend now in the dusty clockless hours of the town when the streets lie black and steaming in the wake of the watertrucks and now when the drunk and the homeless have washed up in the lee of walls in alleys or abandoned lots and cats go forth highshouldered and lean in the grim perimeters about, now in these sootblacked brick or cobbled corridors where lightwire shadows make a gothic harp of cellar doors no soul shall walk save you.
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>>8279783
He stood there, ejaculating nonchalantly as the train passed him by.

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Why are children of writers almost always so shit? wouldn't they be given the tricks of the trade and know what it takes ? or is this all pre determined from birth
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>>8293155
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/04/26/norman-mailer-possessions_n_854044.html

Norman Mailer's kids are notorious shitters.

Pic related is Stephen King's daughter
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This seqway looks epic. Where can I buy it ?
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>>8293155
probably because writers put more energy into their works than into educating their children, it's always been the case. Even Aristotle commented that Socrates's kids were all stupid losers.

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I am trying to read this:

http://www.slideshare.net/CtiaCavalheiro/carlos-alberto-brilhante-ustra-a-verdade-sufocada

At my Kindle tablet, but, as you may have figured, it's an incredibly difficult task since it's a pdf with pictures, the pages are too tiny and zooming in at the kindle is very difficult because of the lag. I am wondering if there is a software made to help this somehow? Or anything that I can do? Thanks beforehand
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Not really. Read it in your computer or buy a tablet.
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Amazon is a beast that you will not defeat.
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Computer or tablet.

I read PDFs through the dropbox app on my iPad. For some reason I haven't yet found a major app that handles being able to zoom but still have a smooth, continuous scroll. I've tried other apps where you have to zoom out before you scroll to the next page, or there is a bit of a resistance to getting to the next page if you are zoomed in.

Post godtier Shakespeare. I'll start.
>You know your mother means to feast with me, And calls herself Revenge, and thinks me mad: Hark, villains! I will grind your bones to dust And with your blood and it I'll make a paste, And of the paste a coffin I will rear And make two pasties of your shameful heads, And bid that strumpet, your unhallow'd dam, Like to the earth swallow her own increase. This is the feast that I have bid her to,
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melodramatic tripe
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>>8292381
every edgy teenager's fave Shakespeare.
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>>8292434
>melodramatic tripe
I'm sorry you were forced to read the Taming of the Shrew in hig school and now you're bitter.

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Where do Alexander Pope and Jonathan Swift rank in English letters?

Recently read The Tale of a Tub (it was assigned reading back in university, but I missed the class because of a hangover iirc) and thought it was great, reminded me a lot of Carlyle's Sartor Resartus. I read selections of Gulliver's Travels, but I think I'll get to a full reading of it soon. Does the rest of his work hold up to the same quality as Tale and Modest Proposal?
I've never read anything by Pope, but I'm curious as to why he's always highly esteemed (I glossed...
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Eh, that whole period is a bit of a lull.
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>>8292197
I was trying to resist that judgment until after I read some of their works, but that's always been my impression of their contemporaries and period.
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So Elvis was quoting Pope?

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>Hey there anon, I heard you like to read! Why don't you check out this 300 page book that's my absolute favorite because I have shit taste! Let me know what you think! Alright, later buddy, see you around!
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T-thanks....but I have a p-pretty big backlog to get through a-already
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*runs after him*

N-no thanks, senpai!
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>>8291762
>Ready Player One
>The Shining
>Gunslinger
>Fight Club
>Fault in our Stars
>Perks of being a Wallflower
>One Flew Over the Cuckoos Nest
>Game of Thrones
>a Bible written entirely in Australian slang

out of all the shit...
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About 2 years ago, I read and thoroughly enjoyed the first 4 books of the Dark Tower series, especially The Drawing of the Three and Wizard and Glass. Something came up and I wasn't able to continue the series at the time, and then I heard that the quality takes a pretty steep nosedive off a cliff starting with the next book, losing my motivation. Is the rest of the series worth reading? I've already been slightly spoiled with the ending.
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not worth it at all. really really bad.
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Might as well see the thing through to the end, man. I had the whole ending spoiled for me, I knew the books dipped in quality, and I still finished them, and I don't regret it. There are some cool parts, some dumb parts, and some parts that are completely out of place. Stephen King really changed after he got hit by that van, he rushed to get this particular series done and it shows. But I recommend finishing for the sake of closure. You should especially read it now before the movie shits all over the source material.
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>>8291653
First book was GOAT and should've stayed that way, not fucking stupid magical black lady and spider offspring

Best business books to read?
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the art of the deal
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>>8291601
Is that supposed to be misleading?
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The ones they will teach you in business school.

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what exactly is volume 2 of this book? was it chapters he left out that they put together after he died? have you read volume 2?
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bumpoooo
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I
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come on guys. none of you have read this? !

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am i getting shafted or nah
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>falling for actual memes
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what site is that?
sick of amazon fucking me over with 4 dollar shipping
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>>8291449
who are you quoting?

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Any other good books set in African conflicts?
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Not exactly a piece of literature, but there's a memoir I remember called 'My Friend the Mercenary' about some British reporter who hired a South African bodyguard to protect while in Liberia. It was quite entertaining.
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We Wish to Inform You That Tomorrow We Will Be Killed With Our Families
Non-fiction about Rwanda Genocide
Haven't read it but been intending to for a while, seems pretty interesting
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Weep Not, Child is set in Kenya during the Mau Mau uprising.

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I know Stephen King is kinda plebby, (but I love his books anyway.)

What's your favorite Stephen King novel, /lit/?
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>>8291252
Pet Sematary scared me the most, but Misery pulled me in the most. Either one of those, I suppose.
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The Long Walk
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i just bought the stand, should i try to read it?


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