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What's that word for when you realise that you'll look back at the previous year and a half and realise it was completely wasted?

>finished a degree I hated
>worked retailcuck part time jobs
>barely read more than 5 books
>did maybe a month's worth of productive stuff in my free time
>went to the gym regularly and lifts went up but ate lots of junk food and had coffee enough to harm sleep at times

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Anon you sound a bit like the Knight of Infinite Resignation.
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>>8785070
existentialism in the past regard

everything in the future is just as meaningless btw
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We call it being.

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What are some good works of literature that discuss finding meaning in a meaningless world?
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How about literally anything
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How about literally nothing
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>>8785013
let me get this straight: you are looking for books that deal with disillusionment and finding meaning in a meaningless world?

good luck finding anything like that bro

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Grab the nearest book (or if you've got an eReader then open up the book you're reading or last read), open it to page 77, then go down to the 6th line, and type the 6th word. See if we can guess the book.

>Instead

Well... that's vague as fuck... any suggestions on how to make this thread NOT suck? Pic is a hint, though doesn't narrow it down much.
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>>8784917
>Furthermore
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>>8784917
Better if you post a while line or sentence. A single word is almost useless.
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Sharpe's Company

Sorry this thread will suck.

Thoughts on this college humor approved book infinite jest?
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>>8784904
You have to start with the Greeks.
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>>8784904
its the most complex book ever made, definitely not for shitters like you
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>>8784904
look at those numales

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>He doesn't know Latin and Greek
Whats your excuse to stay pleb /lit/?
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i know the only language that matters... the language of MEMES
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>>8784880
I am autodidact Greek and Latin. Fuck school.
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>>8784889
What about the ancient memes, how do you translate them?
>>8784900
Liar, you cannot learn them on your own ye fitlhy pleb!

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I've heard it said sometimes that you have to have an MFA in Creative Writing, from a good school at that, to become a critically acclaimed writer.

Is this true, or is it just untalented people making excuses?
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>>8784856
it's an excuse.
Lovecraft didn't finish high school, yet he has received lots of critical praise.
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>>8784856
>have to have an MFA in Creative Writing,

Who on Earth says this? What authors actually have this background?
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>>8784863
I suppose I meant more in terms of critical acclaim in one's own lifetime. Lovecraft died poor and starved by his mother.

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thoughts on this book?
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>>8784832
The pinnacle of Western thought and literature.
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>>8784832
I would like a summary. I'm not reading all of that for 10 tips.
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>>8784832
It's actually pretty good. I would say that it's 1/3 business advice, 1/3 autobiography and 1/3 advertising the Trump brand.

It explains who he is and how he came to be where he is (in the 80s), with some business advice sprinkled throughout.

He was a very similar person back then and using the same techniques as he used in his Presidential campaign.

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>DUDE INCEST LMAO
wtf is Pynchon's problem
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his cousin was probably a qt3.14 or something
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>it's a Prairie's whore mom was a hippie and a bitch chapter
I liked Takeshi, Zoyd, and the fake Italian band.
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anyone else think pynchon must have a daughter?

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i read this book my senior year of college, like 6 years ago. i was a heavy pleb back then, but thought it was great. if i were to re-read it, what would i think? would i hate my former self?
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Only college aged children like it so probably, that's why everyone on /lit/ loves it
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>>8784632
I also read IJ when a raw raw pleb not that I'm still not to a certain degree. but one day I decided to check it out again and was immediately disgusted by how bloated and egotistical the work was, like why would I care what these pubescent boys were doing in the locker room? BUt then I kept reading and about ten pages later I again realized how deft his observations were and how skilled he was at connecting so many things in succession without seeming superfluous. I also started to see many references that I...
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>>8784650
College-aged people are not children.

What are the best fiction books you read this year?
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V
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>>8784537
On the Edge by Chirbes and My Beautiful Friend are up there as well.
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The bible desu

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opinions on this?
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>>8784513
OP's opinion sucks.
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>>8784515
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>>8784513
Cool.

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What is the problem with Nietzsche's ubermensch?
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It's impossible to create your own values.
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>>8784508
Implying that there's only one.
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He's a spook

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I'm an avid reader. I regularly read non-fiction books about history, philosophy and psychology. I love reading because it gives me knowledge. Please give me a good reason to read fiction books. I just can't get into them.
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>>8784501

Because it's filled with great stories that are beautifuly told.

I think by now if you don't find joy in story telling, then you probably never will.
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Why do you need a reason?

As a writer even I can admit film does what we do better and it's really come into its own the past twenty years. Though there's equally no reason you should watch film.

You only should if you want to. There's nothing wrong with you if you don't.
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>>8784507
>film does what we do better
you must be a really terrible writer

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Anyone here read Film Crit Hulk? What does /lit/ think about the dude, I'm curious

pic unrelated

probably
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>>8784471
He's great but his long winded political correctness rants are a real drag, and that's coming from a feminist progressive. But on the whole he's golden. His book was excellent and it felt damn good when he had more or less the exact same opinion as me on Black Mirror and Stranger Things.
Wish he had a button on his site to switch it to regular casing.
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>>8784523
What might those opinions be?
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>>8784567
that Stranger Things has character motivation problems out the ass, and umbrage with Black Mirror's thematic concepts if I had to guess, based on the content of those editorials

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Do you write? Have you ever find someone that shows interest in anything that you write? Someone who doesn't read it in a half assed manner and show real, genuine interest? Is finding someone who's willing to read the hardest part of all this?
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>>8784314

>it's everyone else's fault that no one cares to read my confessional sadomasochistic drivel.
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>>8784314
Yes, I've been writing for years, both freelance articles and short fiction. So I've been published.

Thing is, I've had a hard time finding people in my everyday life who are interested in my writing. Family, friends, they all say, "that's nice" and move on.

I assume I'm just surrounded by illiterates. I need better friends and family.
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>>8784314
>someone who's willing to read the hardest part of all this?
Yes sadly. My ex used to critique my writings and then she left me. I don't think now i can go back to writing without instant feedback daily.

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Hello, /lit/. My backlog currently includes lots of books and what I intend to do now is to improve my reading speed. I am open to suggestions. Anyone has any ideas or experience please share with me.
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>>8784293
Top tip: stop wasting your time on anime discussion sites and actually read
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>>8784305
Posting on 4chan doesn't mean you watch anime friendo. My reading speed is probably about 200wpm but I really want to improve it for my reading.
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Try "10 days to faster reading" - Abby Marks-Beale. Works for me.

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Is there some good reading on impact of apperence on personality and how people treat one by his looks?
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>>8784215
>>>/r9k/
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>>8784215
Ugly people become ressentiment fueled losers who spend their time on tumblr, /r9k/, /pol/, and /leftypol/.
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>>8784224
>>8784226

Ok, is there any worthwhile books(!) on this topic?

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do i need to start with the greeks before i read this book?
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>>8784099

Start with Hamlet. If you ever feel like he's being tricky with some highfalutin philosophical contortions and you want to know what he's getting at, Google a reference.
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>>8784099

in a way, infinite jest contains most of the greeks. apart from Plato. you'll need to read him separately for obvious reasons
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>>8784099
A dictionary would be a safe alternative.

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Can overthinking FUCK you up?
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>>8784079
>monster
>not coffee
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>>8784079
the underground man
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>>8784079
Yes,

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How does /lit/ feel about Winnie the Pooh?
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Tonstant Weader fwowed up.
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>>8784049
It's globalist propaganda
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>>8784049
Its globalist kike propaganda, desu.

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Serious question. I am a ambitious law student who wants to achieve the highest possible grades.

Passing my exams and knowing the answer is never a problem, professors arbitrarily cheating me out of 8+ grades is. They cut my grades for reasons which turn out to be arbitrary.

How do I stop this and achieve the highest possible grades? Being an asshole and filing complaints?
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>>8784048
in general, be more likeable and friendly towards them. everyone is biased towards people they like.

but i also think it's really unlikely that 8+ grades were taken away 'arbitrarily'. maybe you just dont understand the errors? or perhaps you're refusing to accept them?
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>>8784048
you seem like a faggot maybe they hate faggots
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>>8784073
In Holland we use grades on a scale 1-10. No matter how much I work I get an 8. Grades are rounded down and up. Eg. a 8,5 is graded a 9. Getting a 9 or a 10 seems impossible due to arbitrary grading. I have gotten 9's and 10's but mostly BS 8's.

Are there any good modern science books that bring you up to speed on modern scientific discoveries?
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>>8783941
this is /lit/. we only do philosophy.
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>>8783941
MY
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>>8783941
What discipline? Science is too vast for modern discoveries to be truncated into a single book without losing massive amounts of content. Any single serious scientific exploration requires an entire book to fully elucidate, so even if one were to read the equivalent to "modern biological discoveries for dummies" all nuance would be lost, and you would be left with a reduction of content less useful than a day's worth of wikipedia-chaining the field.

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How much did you guys improve visualization and imagination with reading?

Did your imagination became stronger? Can you easier make up stories?
Can you visualize (see in mind's eye) better?

So how much did you improve imagination, visualization and creativity?
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>>8783851
>be me as a kid
>booming imagination, can conjure images and concepts almost effortlessly and write for hours on end

>be me now
>it takes half an hour to come up with a good phrase

Feels bad, man
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I never imagined reading is supposed to improve your visualisation. All I see is letters, meaning play and rhythm.
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>>8783896

Don't you visualize while you read? No imaginary pictures in your head while reading a story?
In that case you might have aphantasia

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I want to read existentialism authors like Nietzsche, Camus and Sartre. Do I need to read something before go right into 20th philosophy? I already saw some videos talking about these philosophers and I kinda know the context.
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>>8783787
Proto-existentialists like Kafka, Dostoyevsky, and Kierkegaard.

You should be familiar with some Greek philosophy. Aristotle's metaphysics and the like
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>>8783787
Being and nothingness is a response to heidegger
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>>8783787
start with the greeks

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you guys know any interesting reading on memes and going viral? like a take on the whole culture etc?
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richard dawkins invented the term "meme" and wrote on the concept. god i love that man.
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Self-proclaimed "internet enthusiasts" that browse their own sub-reddits do not meet the proper qualifications to write entire novels about memes.

Yes, OP. Dozens of these books exist out there. None are worth a dime.
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>>8783728
/lit/erally lurk more faggit

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>he actually started with the Greeks
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>He doesn't actually understand anything he's ever read

I bet you haven't read the Bible either
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>>8783742
Why can't you understand anything if you haven't read the greeks? Are you sure that everyone who wrote a decent book has read the greeks? Just asking, haven't read the greeks, and I'm not sure how it will help me understand other books.
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>he makes condescending frogposts about people who have read books
Episk saga

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Why do 19th century Russian writers only have socially inept fags as MCs?
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>>8783650
because OP is a fag
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>>8783650
this guy's haircut bothers me
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>>8783654
so hot

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>he only reads fiction
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yeah but lisa
ive read :) gravitys rainbow :)
and thus :) sprach :) zarathustra :)
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>>8783644
Speaking as one of these people, I can tell you that I read for escapism, for heightening my connection to others and their experiences, living one thousand lives that I never could.
I never bothered with nonfiction (incl. phil, history, politics etc) because whenever I've tried it's simply seemed to me like common sense. Like a conclusion I could come to if I thought on it long enough unassisted. I genuinely can't think of one exception.
If anyone has had a similar experience with nonfiction books...
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>>8783656
I'm about to ruin reading for you: there's no element of any work of fiction you couldn't eventually imagine, given enough time.

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"I've done work that the wrath of God, fire, steel, time itself will never destroy. Let that day come when it will that will end my life, the day that controls nothing but my body. The greater part of me will fly eternal through the highest stars, and my name will last forever. Wherever on earth people enjoy good music, my name will be on their tongues, and if the stories are true, I will live for an eternity by my fame." - Kanye West

Do you think he deserved to be locked in a mental institution? Some of his lyrics are really pretty clever.
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Is this genuine, is this bait, is this ironic memery, is this post-ironic memery, or is this post-post-ironic memery?
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>>8783680

It's posteriorironic hemimemetics
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>>8783680
Well it isn't genuine.

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Is Plato the biggest hack?

I'm an intellectual and well-versed in the history of Western Thought and Idea, and it feels like Whitehead's observation "all of western philosophy is a footnote to Plato" would be more accurately formulated as "all of western philosophy is a continuous BTFOing of Plato."

Plato is like the pseud who comes on /lit/ to samefag his own arguments and false flag his "opponents." By fortuitous happenstance Plato's writings survived in greater volume and quantity than other more insightful and coherent...
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>>8783575
>who is Nietzsche
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>>8783575
Ok, firstly the tone of your post is very arrogant and provides no information.
Secondly, those ideas already exist;
>>8783611

Now, I'm willing to give you the benefit of the doubt; but you must present any critique of any of Plato's ideas. Otherwise this will just be a vague circlejerk of not liking Plato
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>>8783575
starting a group to disavow all Platonic influences would be a proof to Whitehead's statement. Everything that comes from sheer negation of an idea will eventually come to that idea. That's why Plato's so influencial: because it's easy to not agree with him. But if you base your philosophy on refuting Plato's points, then you're stuck in a horizon of thought that's determined by him. Negative predicate alpha is closest predicat of all predicates to predicate alpha.


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