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Vannevar Bush described in his 1945

An associative trail as conceived by Bush would be a way to create a new linear sequence of microfilm frames across any arbitrary sequence of microfilm frames by creating a chained sequence of links in the way just described, along with personal comments and side trails.
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Modern hypertext systems with word and phrase-level linking offer more sophistication in connecting relevant information
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At the time Bush saw the current ways of indexing information as limiting and instead proposed a way to store information that was analogous to the mental association of the human brain
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How Deep Is Your Love ?

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Which one will it be, lit?
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All memes
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>>8284989
Only good one is Gaddis and even that's a bit doubtful.
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>>8284994
suggest me a list of 5 books I should read, anon.

What should I read first, Lolita or Gravity's rainbow?
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>>8284894
Try: "Kill yourself"
A starting novel from the writers of "Right now" and "No one will miss you"
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>>8284897
why are you repressing your love of cute guys, anon?
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>>8284894
>Pedobook
>Big Pedobook
Go be a pedophile somewhere else.

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Is there anything good about breasts in literature
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As in any famous passages? infamous passages? soft descriptions? something titillating?
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Grapes of Wrath when the pregnant girl lets a starving man breastfeed
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Sabbaths Theater by Phillip Roth

There's a scene where the senior citizen protagonist is sucking his middle aged mistress's tits and she tells him, 'I feel that deep in my cunt.'

This gets him thinking about his mother.

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I'm stuck. Something happened, and I fell in the pit of the weaks. I can't write, no more.
I've many stories in my head, many plots and scenarios, but I still can't figure out how I could write them. Isn't it just sad and disappointing?
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>>8284752
Just write fragments and connect them later
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>>8284752
>can't write 'no more'
cringe
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>>8284752
Does anyone here read like that woman? It bothers me beyond reason to have to fight to keep the book open. I'd rather snap its spine. I wish all books were like those buttery smooth bound hardbacks.

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I have a problem when reading "bad" writing.
It's not that I can't tell (or decide) if some writing is bad, but I can't explain or articulate in an intelligent manner why I find it so terrible.


When I discern bad writing it comes as something intuitive, like eating bad food and immediately 'knowing' that it tastes horrible.


What should I do read to hone in my articulation when it comes to literary criticism?
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>>8284749
Smells like Sumeria in here xD
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>>8284749

>What should I do read to hone in my articulation when it comes to literary criticism?

Literary criticism.
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>>8284779
yes but which ones specifically.
I would have thought /lit/ would be good at reading comprehension.

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>Begin quote (from guardian article)

“OK,” I say. “You’re basically alone. Your wife is still asleep” – he was then married, but not for much longer, to his second wife, Marla Maples – “you’re in the bathroom shaving and you see yourself in the mirror. What are you thinking?”

From Trump, a look of incomprehension.

Me: “I mean, are you looking at yourself and thinking, ‘Wow. I’m Donald Trump’?”

Trump remains puzzled.

Me: “OK, I guess I’m asking, do you consider yourself ideal company?”

(At the time, I deemed Trump’s reply unprintable. But that was then.)

Trump: “You really want to know what I consider ideal company?”

Me: “Yes.”

Trump: “A total piece of ass.”

Singer’s profile determined that Trump does not have an interior life.

>End quote

Is this really how New Yorker / NYT / "literary" magazine nu-male cucks think? I'm not a Trump worshipper but how can we go from Hemingway to these cucks?
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>>8284746
Get in, faggot. We're making America great again.
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>Make America Great Again

What did he mean by this?
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>>8284746
Something must be going over my head.

Is it supposed to be Trump's internal dialogue or am I just missing the entire point?

Is there a book that compares short-term memory loss to immortality.
pis-related does it and I want to see another angle
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Well, if you're only looking to see short-term memory loss equating infinity, you're actually looking for the same angle.

This is a novel that deals with an amnesiac who suffers short term memory loss and is part of a behavioral study group The dramatic angle of the story is how one of the professionals uses their position and the patient's condition to their personal advantage in interesting and unethical ways.
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>>8284738
Only film that made me cry
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>>8284738
Memento

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Why is the theatre so expensive?
My local theatre is state subsidised luckily (still kinda expensive but not that much), but they're doing Faust nearby and I was looking into tickets, turns out it's $200+ per person for the absolutely cheapest seats.
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>have esoteric interest
>surprised when it's expensive
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>>8284691
I wouldn't be able to afford going to the opera if it weren't subsidized, but I still think that an art should be able to survive commercially on its own merits. If there aren't any rich as fuck patrons, or if regular people don't enjoy the art enough, then the art should probably be left to die.

So, we need either the aristocracy or the people, and if we have neither, there is no art, only memes now.
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>>8284745
>but I still think that an art should be able to survive commercially on its own merits
Philistines can't appreciate or even recognize the sublime.

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Is it possible to go into this book without knowing anything about it and "get it" without reading analysis of it first or afterwards?
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>>8284653
What do you mean by "getting it"?
You'd better be acquainted with this:
Easy mode: Dubliners, Portrait, the Odyssey and Hamlet.
Nightmare mode: Easy mode plus the Iliad and the Aeneid, the complete works of Aristotle, Augustine, Aquinas, Shakespeare, Defoe and Ibsen, the catechism of the Catholic Church, The Divine Comedy, The Canterbury Tales, Faust parts I and II, the English Romantic poets, Yeats, Beowulf, Morte d'Arthur, Charles Dickens, Henry James, a working knowledge of Latin, Italian...
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>>8284653
Read this first.

The novel establishes a series of parallels between the poem and the novel.
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How come the ones always about to read Ulysses are the severely under-read?
So did I. You'll be fine as long as the prose does it for you.

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Some good books on logics as a tool of philosophical analysis?
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B u m p
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Pls respond
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>>8284603
Start with the Greeks*.

*I give this advice unironically, read Aristotle at least

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Nor is there anything wrong with science fiction.
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pleb
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Its kinda funny how many "genre writers" are actually very well read.

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How do I stop being a pseudo-intellectual faggot? How do I read books and get interesting and original ideas from them? Is that even possible?
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Just read them and relax, dont be in a race to feel like you "get them" better than the other guy. Besides, everyone has their own unique impressions when they read a thing.
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>>8284514
Just remember that you don't actually know anything.
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>>8284514
Read the bible.

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Lit, I am looking for simply the deepest, most mind fuck of an experience of any book that I can get my hands on. I'm looking for a reading list of sorts, but if you just have one suggestion that's fine. I want to know what the deepest fucking book you've ever read is.
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the bible
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>>8284412
Fight club
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>>8284424
>>8284420
serious replies please.

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Why do I never see people discussing the fact that Tolkien was an obvious Luddite? I'm currently halfway through Return of the King, and I'm noticing a lot that I didn't as a kid when I originally read it.

These novels are obvious allegory to the evils of industrialization. For example, Orcs are always depicted burning and destroying nature (burning the fields of Rohan/Gondor, chopping down trees in Fangorn, etc.), whereas the good races are attuned to nature, living in harmony with trees and beasts. The armor and weapons of the Light races are described...
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>>8284401
>never see

Where have you been all these fucking years?

And the reason for that is he fucking hates what industrialization has done to the English countryside. And if you read some of Dickens' novel, you will know just how terrible factories were those days.

And the shitty weaponry the Orcs got is referring to mass produced stuff being inferior to carefully crafted works by humans. Industrialization destroyed Middle Ages' guilds. Now, instead of being proud...
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>>8284401
I dunno, being a luddite seems the way to go wrt current events. Find a comfy farm somewhere and live while the rest of the world tears itself apart for glorified memes.
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>>8284401
Why do i never see people discussing the fact that Tolkien was an obvious anarchist?

The ring is an obvious allegory to the power to control others. Sauron was a commie. Tom Bombadil was immune to it because "he is his own master".

What are your thoughts on this series?

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>we're not so different, you and I
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>>8284378
>all of a sudden,
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>>8284378
>rumbled into life
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The book that pic related was taken from just won a £10,000 prize in my country

>protagonist hears a scream
>only later does he realize the scream was his own
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usually these treads suck, but this time I agree
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>protagonist memes so supreme he lets out a scream
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>>8284363
Yeah, it's very fanfic-ish

Do I proceed to checkout?

I'm fairly new to reading literature and I have no defined taste so i'm buying various meme classics. I also have Infinite Jest, Atlas Shrugged (which I regret buying) and Catch-22 due to arrive in the coming days.

Are these books a decent starter pack?
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Read Stoner.
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>>8284337

Dude weed lmao.
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Where's the science fiction?

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ITT: writers that remind you of yourself.

For me it's Shelley - he's intelligent, idealistic and with a wicked sense of romanticism
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Definitely Byron - my best friend died in an accident and I couldn't save him lol
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Stephen King reminds me of myself- a mediocre, out of touch underachiever.
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>>8284187
Oh this thread again.

Would love to be a Marlowe or an Ovid, but I don't like boys.
Sadly I am a Kafka.

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Was Joyce a perverted Irishman? Is Pynchon an eccentric recluse? Is OP a faggot?
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>>8284152
Yes yes and yes.
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Why was he depressed?

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Finally finished my book, need a cover to publish it. What do?
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>>8284080
Contact the publishers. If it's really something you have to sort out yourself (self publishing?) or want to, get a lawyer that specialises in IP, get him to draw up a contract (work out what ongoing relationship you want for a start and how involved you're prepared to be in the process, and also try to get a solid idea of what you want) and commission an artist. Or buy some of their existing work. They can forfeit their rights to you in a number of ways.

Or you get something which is old enough to...
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If you're self publishing just google for royalty free covers or images to use. Or ask on /ic/ or some sort of art board for someone who'd like to be involved.

If you're trying to get it actually published, the publisher will sort it out for you; it's not up to you.
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>>8284080
Use a public domain image.

do you think he was telling the truth?
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>>8284076
>In 2015, Alex Malarkey publicly disavowed the book The Boy Who Came Back from Heaven, stating that his near-death experience described in that book was fictional[15] and condemned Christian publishers and bookstores for selling popular "heaven tourism" books, which he said "profit from lies."[16][17] Following Malarkey's statement, Colton Burpo expressed that "People have their doubts about my story," but said he stood by the book.[18]
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it's bad theology in addition to being obviously fake
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>>8284723
>bad theology
Just like all theology

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>>8284060
I dropped it after fifteen pages. Couldn't stand it. Could anyone who liked it post why they did?
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>>8284095
Yeah on page 16 shit gets cray cray. Couldn't put it down after that.
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One of my favourite books, definitely worth checking out.

>>8284095

The writing style for me was a perfect balance between raw incisiveness and dreamy poetics. Like a blend of some of the best features of Céline and Pessoa. As expected from that, it's profound and hilariously funny at the same time.

Style aside, I love Miller's project of the redefinition and realisation of a new heroism for the modern age. I love his talent for seeking out the very dregs of life and conquering everything mean...
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>Put the thesaurus down
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Why do you have a picture of a young girl on your computer?
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>>8284374
>a picture
I have entire drives filled
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>>8284404
Seek help

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are writers losers who don't get laid ?
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Yeah

Source: me
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>>8284034
No, just losers who don't get paid.
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>>8284140
They're losers who can't get laid and don't get paid

Is this the lite vanilla anime version of Gravity's Rainbow?

The world explodes if the guy get's a boner, conspiracy, bizarre humour, medium's shit, etc.
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>anime
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>>8283883
>anime image board
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>>8283884
/a/ exists as containment, that should tell you something.

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Give me a topic and I will write you a 100 word essay inspired by it.
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>>8283562
pants
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>>8283562
pants
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>>8283562
trousers

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What language(s) should one learn to be exposed to the most valuable literature? I'm starting to get overwhelmed how much I need to read can only be through trans*lation
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>>8283490
Plebs learn German, French, Russian, Spanish, Italian, Japanese, etc
Contrarians learn Esperanto
Patricians learn Tuvan
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sigh why do we have to have these stupid fucking threads every day. you said it yourself, OP: there's an "overwhelming" fucklot of shit in not English.

my advice? learn Greek and Latin. (but you can make a case for basically any language, which is why your question is dumb af.)
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Hungarian

I'm looking for books similar to The Girls by emma cline and girls on fire by Robin (can't remember the last name). I can't put my finger on what exactly it is I'm looking for; maybe something like fucked up romances. I guess I'm looking for books that are haunting and will resonate after I read them
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The Bed Moved by Rebecca Schiff. Short stories, but similar ideas. Fewer murders, though.
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OP here, also, I'm looking for grim stories (not edgy or gritty, something more modern and less classic ), something, again, like girls on fire
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I'd say girl with the dragon tattoo, but I'm guessing you want something a bit deeper. Who the fuck hasn't read that book?

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Any good book suggestions about the history of war between the west (America) and the middle east?
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>>8283407
This picture is such an adolescent interpretation of Christianity.
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Alison Weir -Against Our Better Judgment: The Hidden History of How the U.S. Was Used to Create Israel -

The Transparent Cabal: The Neoconservative Agenda, War in the Middle East, and the National Interest of Israel - Stephen J. Sniegoski
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>>8283790
I know I have been bamboozled when I googled the author "Stephen J. Sniegoski" and he has less results that my obscure porn fetish.


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