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Cosmere Edition.

Recommendations:
>Fantasy
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>Sci-Fi
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The old is new once more.
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I finally did the unthinkable and posted my short story on DeviantArt.
Could I post the link to its chapters here so you can give me some criticism? It's a very short and sweet fantasy story so it won't take much of your precious time.
Or post it chapter by chapter here? Or something.
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>>8278084
>DeviantArt
No sorry we don't like scum here. Reddit is where you want to go.

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Did /lit/ like Dial H?

Whats /lit/ think about comics anyway?

Are they seen as inferior to prose round these parts?
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>>8277816
Mainstream comics are for manchildren. There are some manga/comics/graphic novels that are equal to modern literature. I was deeply moved by the anime Ping Pong and the manga Kokou no Hito. They are actually experimenting and trying to break new ground using effort rather than imitating the canon or trying to appeal to millenials like a lot of modern lit.
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>china mieville

I agree that picturebooks are the correct format for socialist preaching, but I've reached the age where I'm looking for something more sophisticated.
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Are they seen as inferior to prose round these parts?
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found this inscription on the title page of an anthology of poetry (DH lawrence)

anyone care to translate it for me? Its greek but as far as I can tell it means "Filth without hope"

which is dark as fuck if someone is describing the poetry itself because i rather like it...
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my bad

"βορβορου ούk έσμεν"
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dfgsdfg
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yo faggots sharpen up

What is /lit/s opinion on Klosterman?
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I haven't read his books.
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I read that book last year and don't remember a single thing about it. It was a few essays or collected articles I think
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I read Sex Drugs and Cocoa Puffs. It's like really really watered down DFW, desu.

I read 50 pages of But What If We're Wrong and wanted to shoot myself in the foot. He has no intellect.

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It's scary how much I identify with this book
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Mom's gonna freak!
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so what do you guys think of the book? i'm reading it right now. i loved the movie and i'm loving this one.

this is actually the first book i'm reading in the lit starter kit, next one is 1984.
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>>8277624
you're such a psychopath! xdxdxd

Reading The Temple of the Golden Pavilion and having read up on Taoism has gotten me interested in Zen Buddhism.
Does anyone have a chart on what to read (or can anyone recommend a path)?
I checked the wiki and tried googling but couldn't find anything.
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>>8277521
Zen Mind Beginners Mind
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Another question: I assume I have to start with OG Buddhism first, right?
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>>8277521

I would suggest studying Buddhism in general first.

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china mieville's arms are huge
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Did someone use a lot of sharpness? Image looks bad.
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>what's that you said about fantasy being for nerds, you faggot?
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>>8277417
4u

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Give me your top 5 /lit/ approved books/meme books.
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Infinite jest
Blood meridian
Ulysses
Gravities rainbow
2666

These 5 books make a skill rainbow starting at amazing peaking at cannon masterwork, and back down to amazing
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>>8277415

harry potter series
a song of ice and fire series
hitchhikers guide to the galaxy
ready player one
the martian
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>>8277415
saved. Golden picture

I liked them, thought they were fun
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I like ASOIAF series as well, they're quite entertaining. Also, if you'd like them, check out Zelzany's The Chronicles Of Amber. He was Martin's mentor, and The Chronicles Of Amber books are much better than Martin's ASOIAF series.
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>>8277347
>The placement of that comma
>Liking asoshit

Not surprised
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>>8277347

Who else bought and read them ten or so years ago so now your editions don't have "Now an HBO original project" or some bollocks like that.

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Can anyone who's read the originals recommend a good translation of Rilke? I'm thinking of getting pic related because it's a bilingual edition with generally good reviews.
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Just learn german
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Snow is great. His translation does not try very hard to keep Rilke's syntax or prosody, but what he comes up with retains all of Rilke's concepts and emotions. I doubt that Rilke would write in English the way Snow does, but just looking at the stuff one can tell that all the soul is there. It's remarkable really. I actually marvel at his translations from time to time and have started basing my own poetry on how his translations turn out.
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do you think people who can read the original would read the translations? please...

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What does /lit/ think about it?
>There is no female Mozart because there is no female Jack the Ripper.
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>>8277287
Not true.
There is no female Mozart since women don't give a fuck about music unless it gives them control over men.
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>>8277287
>Jack the ripper didn't self identify as a trans woman

Pretty triggered TBQH
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It's a fucking embarrassment and the only reason she is famous is she is a semi literate woman who was anti-feminist and anti (then) fashionable theory at the right time in the culture wars. She's a half-retarded Allen bloom, who was himself Neely fully retarded. There's a reason she teaches at a shitty art school and is only discussed by people who shutout on 4chan and men's rights forums

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does anyone have W.S. Merwin's purgatorio?

i'd love to compare it to other translations i've read.
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what do you want to know about it
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>>8277817
i want to read it.

but i cant find any online version, and my current situation doesn’t allow me to buy it. (no permanent address)

i want to read an English verse translation and compare it to the original Italian.
Also this translation has an excellent reputation among Dante scholars. (or at least the one i know)
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PS: also China, where i'll be staying, doesn’t approve allot of books. especially 'religious' texts.

still you can get around that.

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do you have to be miserable to write well?
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No, but it fucking helps.
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>>8276974
not necessarily.
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>>8276974
>>8276979
>>8277001
Idiots.

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dont write about writing or reading. dont set anything in a school. dont have any characters be teachers or authors or even artists. dont mention the names of any famous author or artists or philosophers. under no circumstances have characters discuss literature, or their tastes in literature or movies or tv, etc. dont make youre main character an introvert who isnt understood by the morons around him. i could go on but hopefully you get the idea.
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>>8276849
>under no circumstances have characters discuss literature, or their tastes in literature or movies or tv, etc

Why is Murakami allowed to do that, then?
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>>8276849
T. i dont write
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Who are you to dictate on what and what not to do when writing. Many of those who write don't write for other people, but for themselves.

Write about whatever pleases you, don't be limited by some pretentious anon on /lit/

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>Navigate to my favorite Thai claymation board
>Make a thread to discuss early Vedantic literature
>>Poo in Loo!!! Poo in Loo!!
>>designated
>>mfw the author is brown
>>AVE MARIA DEUS VULT
>>GREEEKS
>Log off
>Jump off bridge
>Kill self

I've...
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is this post not your attempt to 'fix it'?
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>>8276777
checked
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>>8276772
Try factory reseting friendo

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This has to be the most boring book I've ever read.
Are Kafka's other stories more interesting or is he being praised as one of the major figures of 20th-century literature for a reason I do not understand at all?
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My personal experience with Kafka's novels is that they always feel like bad dreams as I read them, but once I've gotten through them and contemplate them I realize how powerful the imagery and atmosphere are.
Seriously, I HATED The Castle while I was reading it but it was definitely a worthwhile experience.
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>Doesn't understand the irony of complaining about how boring The Trial was.
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>>8276631

>Are Kafka's other stories more interesting or is he being praised as one of the major figures of 20th-century literature for a reason I do not understand at all?

The second one. The Trial is so amazing I honestly feel bad that you did not enjoy it.

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Anyone into Westerns?
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does anyone have the link to the Blood Meridian review done by the shirtless obese guy?
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>le nyrb shill
fuck off
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>>8276460
Loved BM, looking to get Butcher's Crossing.

Have you read McCarthy's Border Trilogy?

the weird frontier between post irony and new sincerity are these millennials the saviors of literature?
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Are they ?
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probably not.
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>between post irony and new sincerity

Can we find a metaxy beyond polarity to the Oasis of Awakenening

>>8276034

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Do you think most literature critics / theorists are bluffing? Unlike most other media / art, literature takes tons of time to consume, even when talking about a single work, much more to let it gestate, be reread etc.

Is therefore any sort of meaningful, broad, encompassing insight impossible?

And is the reason this gets swept under the rug because it would ruin academic careers if admitted?
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I don't think you've read too much if at all of literary criticism.
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>>8275570

Illiterate.
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>>8275570
it's a genuine question
but your starting point is suspect to begin with.

what is "meaningful, broad, encompassing insight "? and what do you imagine it would look like? Since you said it's also impossible.


Anyway, to answer your question, depends on the critic I guess.
It's like that with film. Someone like Kermode as opposed to Bordwell.

What you want to look out for when reading any kind of criticism is the "how" of the critique.

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Books have never made me shed a tear. I partially think I haven't come across the right book yet, but maybe I lack that sense of empathy needed for literature to have that effect on me too.

Have you ever shed a tear reading literature, anons? What books have had that effect on you?
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It's an obvious choice but Steinbeck's Of Mice & Men nearly got me.
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Norwegian Wood from Murakami made me cry. When I read it I just broke up with my girlfriend and themes of the book where very relevant for me. More books of Murakami made me shed a little tear.
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Williams' Stoner. It's upsetting how relatable it is.

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In any category, what would you say are the ten most important Chinese books, whether it's by influence or moral significance or quality or whatever. The Analects, the Tao Te Ching...? The Water Margin? What?

Also, on an unrelated note I remember some essay about four emperors who were bad and four sages who were good, and the point was that the bad emperors had pretty rad lives while the good sages all lived miserably and died alone. Does anyone know what I'm talking about and what it's called/who wrote it?

Pic just barely related enough to make you angry
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Journey to the West
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>>8274961
I mean RotTK, Outlaws of the Marsh/Water Margin, A Dream of Red Changers and Journey to the West are the easy answers. The Spring and Autumn Annals are cited everywhere. The Good Earth, although not written in Chinese by a Chinese was written by an extremely sympathetic daughter of long term missionaries. Lu Xun is mandatory. Jin Yong if you like Kung Fu. Gao Xingjian and Mo Yan for contemporary lit. The Blood Merchant is recent and well loved.
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>>8275033

Thanks a bunch, that's pretty helpful.

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>Looking around for some books to assist me in writing my own novel
>Every book I find is directed towards screenwriters
>"THREE ACT STORIES ARE GOD" meme

Are there ANY good books out there for would-be novel writers?

I've already read the Lite-Memoirs that everyone suggests (King's "On Writing", Atwood's "Negotiating with the Dead", Baxter's "Burning the House Down") but those are more guides of how to write...
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Study your favorite writers and stories.
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>>8274684

>guides of how to write in that author's style rather than general suggestions on the craft of writing itself.
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John Garder's Art of Fiction

Basically required reading

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According to Schelling the three post-ancient authors you must read before you die are SHAKESPEARE, DANTE and CERVANTES. He later replaced Cervantes with GOETHE.

Imagine, after finding out you spent a significant part of your youth lurking /lit/, they've made you the national minister for education. What three authors do you put into the obligatory curriculum of non-ancient literature classes?
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>>8274480
Ovid, Shakespeare Dante
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shakespeare dante and goethe

schelling was right
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>>8274492
>Ovid
oh ja, he isn't quite as ancient as Quintus Ennius or Plautus!

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List your most brilliant, creative names.
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>>8274309
Why? You would steal them.
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>>8274309
John Smith
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Borsjtjevitj

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What does /lit/ think of House of Leaves?
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>>8274240
Encapsulating in the aspects of literature that stand out the most.
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I liked it, /lit/ doesn't.
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>>8274240
>chilling with gf in her room, both of us reading
>get a text from girl in my hall
>asks if i want to borrow House of Leaves, she recommends it
>i say sure, pick up a copy
>start reading first ten pages
>can't stop thinking about hottie who lent me the book
>jerk off, jizz lands in the pages

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yes. he's certainly the most attractive too.
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>>8273627
>attractive
He looks like a rat.
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>>8273646
>not wanting to fuck rats
Fuck off Winston

now I be cry
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Why do you cry? Was it a good book? Did pinecone make you feel?
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>>8272412
yes he did. I thought it was good but not great, until the last transit. then he hit it out of the park. now I can't stop thinking about those lovable idiots.
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>>8272407
Pynchons my fav writer for sure because my fav thing in books is goofs, gags, jokes and rambunctious behavior, and his books are full to the brim of it. Every novel is like one of those novelty snake cans, you open the book & POP you get a face fulla snakes and you fall back cackling. The mad mind, the crack genius, to do it! and then you think hmmm whats he gonna do next, this trickster, and you pick the book back up and BZZZZZZZZZZ you get a shock and Hahahahahah you've been pranked again by the old pynchmeister,...
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I can't seem to find any copy of his books. Anyone care to help?
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No luck so far, is his body of work the Holy Grail of our times?

Yes.
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You can probably blame Dean Learner for this. Remember how he treated Randolph Caer?
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>>8270373
The only man whose written more books than he's read.

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I've just finished this and I can say that it's one of the most beautiful books I've read so far.

Thoughts on the book and recommendations?

[SPOILER]Rhoda is Virginia, right?[/SPOILER]
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Woolf had been writing here and there about and around the coming of this sort of literature years before, then fulfilled her own prophecy
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>>8269251
It was also her favourite novel she wrote, no?
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>>8269215

Please, tell me how you did it. I found it, though interesting, extremely boring.

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Is this worth reading? It's about how classical civilization came from African, and that Greece was originally black but they were later forced out, and that the idea white Greeks invented it is a racist myth.

>inb4 WE WUZ
It's not a pop work, it's a three-volume academic work that is highly respected and meticulously researched
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>and that Greece was originally black
What? That's not what Black Athena is about it isn't some Afrocentrist garbage. The thesis is just that the Egyptian and western Asian influences on classical Greece were much greater than was previously thought.
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>>8267874
It says that Africans were the original colonists of Greece, and the idea that Indo-Europeans were is a dated 19th Century thesis.
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WE


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