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How to convert pdf to azw3/mobi in such a way you get normal paragraphs? I converted it in default settings and got this. It's indeed readable, but still wish it wasn't so messy.
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>>8277193
As far as I know a PDF doesn't contain any explicit information about how it was formatted, in this regard it works more like an image than a text file. The only way of extracting the raw text is through optical character recognition (OCR), where each character is isolated and identified through comparisons with known characters. Often the user of the OCR software needs to manually identify the first occurrences of some characters before the software can reliably recognise them.

As you can imagine the...
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>>8277308
>As far as I know a PDF doesn't contain any explicit information about how it was formatted
I should have written "...about how it was originally constructed"
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>>8277193

What book is it? I bet libgen has an epub which is very easy to convert to mobi using calibre.

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Hello, over the years I have read that /lit/ is the smartest board, maybe because usual 4chan users do not wander around here.
I thought Ill take advice from /adv/, but posts there are really uninviting.

I recently realized that I emotionally invest in politics, bad government decisions, money squandered on shady deals. I tried to take on the Carlin-esque spectator approach, but still I lose my health and nerves over things that I cannot change.

If one is like this now, can he change ?
"What can change the nature of man ?"
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>>8277169

That's up for debate
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>>8277176
I mean the

>>8277169
>smartest board

Part
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>>8277169
Read Seneca

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What would he say about the state of the modern world?
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nigger
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He would surely be horrified and shocked, probably more so at the state of individuals than at the state of the environment.
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Thoreau was one of several writers who have led me to start thinking of the political, economic and environmental problems of our time as direct causes of a general degradation in the quality of individual human persons.

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Are there any Asian fantasy books in a similar vein as "A Song of Ice and Fire," preferably written by someone more competent than GRRM? ASOIAF is bogged down by lousy writing from a mechanical standpoint, but I do like the idea of seeing the story of an empire being told through many perspectives.

I think it would be cool to see something like the Warring States period or the rise of the Shogunate put through a fantasy filter the way GRRM did with the War of the Roses.

If such a novel does not exist, please go write one. I want to read it.
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>>8277140
There is always Legend of the Galactic heroes, it is sci-fi but heavily inspired by three memedom wars. Hard to say it is "game of thrones in space" but they are similar in realism aspect, albeit logh takes a bit more romantic approach.

2/10 novels are translated into English, they are okay albeit not great, there is also the animu which is considered a classic.
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>>8277143
Thanks, I'll check it out. Is it worth reading the books first, or is the animu that better?
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>>8277144
That much better*

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What the fuck is his problem?
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Melville already lays into him better than I could.

He's a dispassionate Christfag wagecuck who thinks based old Ahab is a blaspheming psycho who's going to carry them to oblivion, and he's right, but still. When they introduced him I thought he would be one of the cooler characters but Stubb is the best officer on board after Ahab.

I have about 70 pages of it left. I just finished the part where he forges his new harpoon for Moby Dick and baptizes it in blood, I had a raging boner the whole passage.

>"Ego non baptizo...
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>>8277146
Starbuck was the only decent human being on that entire damn ship.
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>>8277171
the savages were pretty based, although the gay vibes from queequeg we are a little weird

I wanna read the Greeks, give me some good translations of the basic works.
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>>>>sticky>>>
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>>8277115

>translations

You don't want to read the Greeks.
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Listen to Michael Sugrue

"Moby Dick is about a lot more than whales, and Socratic philosophy is about a lot more than a wise man walking around saying enigmatic, sometimes ironic things"

Lecture on Love and more

http://www.thegreatcourses.com/courses/plato-socrates-and-the-dialogues.html

#13

Is there an album w better writing than this?
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BUMP
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do you seriously think that bob dylan is a better song writer than joni mitchell and joanna newsom?
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>>8277523
or meghan trainor or shupac?

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What do you think about people who can't read or at least can't read very well. Do you blame them for there lacking reading abilities? Are they really missing out on much?
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What do you think about people who can't see or at least can't see very well. Do you blame them for there lacking sight abilities? Are they really missing out on much?
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>Are they really missing out on much?

yes
even reading light fiction gives you longer line of thought, better understanding of the world, bigger vocabulary etc
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>>8277070
>there

Kill yourself.

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he have writers block or something? why did he slow down so much in his later life
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insanity
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He had depression and received electroshock therapy for it, which destroyed his memory. As his memory faded, he realized that he would never write again.
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no matter how much he tried to fit it, and tried to live stereotypes(such as being macho alpha, brave honorable soldier, intellectual in paris, family man, rich eccentric etc..) society promoted, it never worked and felt fake, he just couldnt deal with it

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What went so wrong?
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At what point was anything going right?

I'm one of those who roll their eyes at all the posturing genre-hate around here and I still couldn't stand the first two of these when I read them. And from everything I've heard they only got worse.
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>>8276977
Jordan wanted to rival Tokien in world building and thought that bulk meant substance. So we got entire chapters filled with characters describing wheat shipments and outlandish fashion.

The series is shit, I'm literally up to book ten now and I'm not sure I should go on knowing that I could read so much better stuff in the time it would take me to smash out the last four, but also feeling as if I've already invested so much time into the series it would be insane to stop now.

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Would a better name for this book be A Clockwork Eggplant?

Couldn't it just as easily be used for the exact opposite message of what it's trying to send? I mean I personally think "Around Blacks, Never Relax" is an incorrect world view, but is it an incorrect interpretation of the text? I mean it starts out by showing how the characters background of poverty creates this worldview of fear, hatred and anger. His only form of currency is his propensity to use violence, because it is the one thing that makes him feel "equal" to other people....
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DINDU NUFFN
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this book was an excuse for a nigger to write snuff fiction about white women, don't read too much into it
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>>8277062
What are you talking about? The protagonist killed the girl by accident.

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How do you alcohol-/lits/ moderate your consumption for optimal writing prowess? Does moderation matter to you?

I tend to drink too much and then my writing starts to go to shit and I lose focus.
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>>8276819
DUDE
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>>8276820
SAUCE
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>>8276819
I drink a lot but I don't drink when I write. I usually lose control of my consumption, which doesn't end well. I write a lot hungover though, which is great.

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he really have a pet bear?
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you really care?
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>>8276782
no
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>>8276787
sweet thread guys

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I'll start
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>>8276737
haha xD
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>>8276737
s-she's coming back, right?
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>>>/mu/

I really want to read this book, but I'm trying to find the best translation of it. I've gathered that anything translated by Constance Garnett is archaic and sucks cock, so I'd like to avoid her. What does /lit/ think?
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>>8276721

>he thinks 19th century English is "archaic"

Good luck with your adventures in literature, kek
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Magarshack is based.

https://www.amazon.com/Crime-Punishment-Classics-Fyodor-Dostoyevsky/dp/0140440232/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1468474385&sr=1-1&keywords=crime+and+punishment+magarshack

Avoid P&V translations at all costs; they're bastardizations.
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>translation

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Will Russia and the "Renaissance of the Medieval" save literature? I fear for its welfare.
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Explain what you mean by "Renaissance of the Medieval"
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>>8276695
>I fear for its welfare
Russia's or literature's?

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What the fuck did I just start reading?
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>>8276582

Sexual guilt + mommy issues
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Its a very funny book. Roth was never as funny again.
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>>8276607
He certainly wasn't as laugh-out-loud funny, but he wrote some pretty great books.

I've read The Idiot, I've read Crime and Punishment and from the first 40 pages I'm convinced The Brothers Karamazov isn't worth finishing and I should begin Moby Dick instead. Can I double check this with /lit? Thanks,
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I had this problem when I was fourteen, but then I wasn't a loser and decided to finish it and it was great.

Thank God I had at least a few years of innocent reading before I discovered this place.
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>>8276546
>Can I double check this with /lit? Thanks

People like you shouldn't be allowed to read.

hehe x)
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I could be re-reading The Magic Mountain instead of what is obviously going to be the same predicament again

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I'm starting college this fall and I'm wondering what language I should pick to fulfill my school's language requirement. I'm leaning towards either Russian or French. I'm already fluent in Spanish (and English, obviously). What language do you think has the best literature?
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I like both Russian and French.

There are good literature in portuguese and spanish too. You should consider it.
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>>8276541
I'm fluent in Spanish and read Spanish literature regularly. I can converse in Portuguese but usually read it translated to Spanish.
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>>8276586

If you're fluent in one then there is no need to learn the other, unless you're a genius, then by all means, learn portuguese.

Portuguese is probably one of the best languages to write in and has a rather underrated literature too. Its really rich. But I believe most of the good stuff is translated already.

Try to find something translated from Machado de Assis! See if you like it, if you do, then consider it.

Between Russian and French... I'd pick french. Personal preference....
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I'll go first:
https://www.fanfiction.net/s/5107949/1/Tales-From-the-Wasteland-Black-As-Oil
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The Divine Comedy
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qt4bd1OaHTQ
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>>8276516
A quick glance at the rules https://www.4chan.org/rules#lit would not be amiss, you festering carbuncle.

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I'm not alcoholic, but I just realized after a month or so without real drinking that it's only when I've downed a few that I feel like I have a worthwhile mind. That I think interesting things. That subjects and people I find interesting and worthwhile appear at their best. I don't want to make a conscious decision to become some hard drinker but besides the suicidal thinking everyone goes through the most genuine disposition I have to the stuff around me is when I'm drinking, and I'd rather live like that.

I guess it's that or become...
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What I'm asking is - am I the only one that feels like this? and don't fucking mention bukowski you hacks. Who can i read that will give feelings of genuineness.

I also want to live in a cell and pray five times a day but I'm too embarrassed of that to go for a novitiate but that probably should be another thread
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...that's just the drug deluding you. Drugs make everything better in the shallowest ways.

Just try to mature emotionally and you won't need drugs to appreciate it. What they give in pleasure they take in mindfulness.
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>>8276487
>I'm not an alcoholic
the first step is accepting you're an alcoholic OP

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What is /lit/s opinion on Dune?
Sounds interesting. Is it pleb tier?
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>>8276454
Most people recognize it for the influence it had on genrefic which is second only to LOTR but few would call it high literature. People who either never read it or didn't understand it will call it sci-fi. It's really fantasy more than anything.

I think there are some strong literary themes though, it deconstructs heroism, kind of looks at the idea of the Ubermensch (at least in terms of a being who ascends to a superhuman status) as a curse and burden rather than a blessing and liberation from man's...
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I love the book. Most considerate as close to "literary" sciene-ficition as anything from that sect of lit gets.
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>>8276475
Like the anon above my quoted post mentions, the theme of heroism being a burden is significant and one of my favorite parts. I've read 1 and 2, and 2 is my favorite cause it dives into that theme in a really cool way after the events and the tone of the first book.

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Me, judging from the cover
>oh cool, it's gonna be a Red Sonja ripoff about a warrior chick fighting monsters and shit
reality
>Tara just gets the shit raped out of her non-stop
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>>8276418
>shit raped out of her non-stop
Do you mean that figuratively, as in she keeps getting defeated in fights, or literally, as in non-consensual sex?
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>>8276468
literally non-consensual sex. The first 15 pages or so are describing Tara's upbringing in a secluded castle and her lithe, sexy, 16 year old body. She leaves the castle to be a warrior and go on a great quest, literally the first people Tara meets are a bunch of dudes who surround her, take her captive without a fight, strip her, paw at her 16 year old boobs and and vagina, and take her to be a slave for the prince. Then follows about 50 pages of Tara constantly being drunk on aphrodisiac wine and having tons...
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>>8276481
>Then Tara and the 12 year old girl are thrown in a cell together, and immediately start having sex.

excerpt pls

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Is there such a thing as a good method for convincing people?
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you might want to check out rhetoric
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>>8276363
dont try to convince them, thats the best method
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>>8276363
The socratic method. Google it, OP.

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What would be the absolute minimum Western canon? (Less than 20 books.)
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>look up st johns college great books program
>read the most well known book from the authors listed
P much that
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Moby Dick should be the one American representative.
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>>8276291
The Bible

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Any good Japanese novels about WW2? Would be interesting to read from the perspective of a gook writer
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>>8276288
>Japanese
>Gook

It's a sad day when even 4chan can't get racism right.
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>>8276288
I'll sum it up for you

>we dindu nuffin 2 : tokyo drift

t. korean
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Confession of a Mask

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ITT: literary characters who would be really good at Pokemon GO

>Alexei Karamazov
>walks everywhere all the time
>first half of the book is just him walking all over the place

ITT: literary characters who would be really bad at Pokemon GO

>The Tempest
>Alonso, King of Naples
>gets owned by a storm
>stranded on an island
>ends...
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What a bizarre idea for a thread.
I'm not going to give a response.
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>>8276287

>>>/v/

fucking manchild
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This is literally Characters who walked a lot: the thread.

Pretty much any character from the French philosophical movement.

Are any of the Star Wars novels actually worth reading?

I'm not expecting anything stellar but surely they can't all be trash?
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>>8276279
>surely they can't all be trash
define "trash"
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>surely they can't all be trash?

Why can't they?

I believe the consensus is that the Thrawn Trilogy is worth reading (in the sense it's a great story, not in the sense it's great literature), and the rest is steaming manure; but I'm no Jedi Master.
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There is always the Thrawn trilogy, which made even fans start taking the books seriously simply because it tells a cool story. The X-Wing series is also great and has excellent characters. I don't think anyone will argue about how good either of those series are.

Besides them most of the stuff is middling and you'll hear people picking out favorites here and there. It's best to go by the authors really, since a lot of garbage fantasy writers get Star Wars contracts. The good ones are:

Timothy Zahn
Michael Stackpole (if you can put up with Mary...
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"I am enlightened by my own intelligence"
What literary masterpiece is this quoted from?
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a teenager from reddit
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>>8276254
Aalewis, from reddit

"‘In this moment, I am euphoric. Not because of any phony god’s blessing. But because, I am enlightened by my intelligence.’""
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>>8276254
A meme that reddit actually got to prior to 4chan.
Bravo, reddit.

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the person in this video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wkPR4Rcf4ww) argues that for something to be considered "kafkaesque" it has to not only embody oppressive nightmare-ish qualities but it must also possess some element of irony in it.

that being said what is the element of irony in the metamorphosis? does one exist?
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>>8276208

The irony is that the metamorphosis into a useless insect who directly causes the lives of the family to be worse than they would otherwise be is the cause of the entire family he had been providing for to themselves metamorphosise into far more independent and "better" human beings than they had been before the literal metamorphosis occurred.
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>>8276208
he already was a bug
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>>8276208

>A bug with a funny voice trying to explain his family why he hadn't get up earlier


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