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Will reading fiction books make me better at writing essays?

Not underaged, in college. I have trouble meeting page count requirements. I can do research and list facts or my opinions, but I'm supposed to pad everything with garbage and sort of make it into a blog. I get horrible writers block, it took me 2 hours to write 500 words.
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Why not read essays if you're trying to write essays?
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writing fiction will definitely help with essays, from personal experience. it's a lot easier to get into the flow of your current thought.

reading alone, I dunno. probably a little
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>>8780884
Something a lot of undergrads forget to do is not only to include texts and arguments that support your thesis, but also to bring in an article that refutes your thesis, and respond to that. That will not only help you make page count, but also will make for a stronger essay. Also, don't quote defensively, bring in a quote and then expand on that.
Being a little short shouldn't be a huge issue in college, as long as it's clear the essay is focused and doesn't miss any obvious points of discussion/make...
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Why is the chair on the floor like that?
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>>8780869
He knocked it over. He's about to stride right out the door and he cares not for the taverns furnishing.

Now, what I want to know, who was the squirrel and what was his take on Hegel
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max was no chill
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>>8780869
why aren't there actual pictures of this guy or legit painted portraits. I don't get it.

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Who's your 5 dream guests at the old hypothetical dinner party you're not throwing?

I'll start
Humbert Humbert
Gatsby
Micheal Permulis
James Bond
Anselmo
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>>8780834

>Tom Wolfe
>Steinbeck
>Salinger
>Stephen King
>Brett Easton Ellis
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Dixon
The biologist from Cannery Row
Nostromo
Lord Jim
Dilsey
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>>8780834
>I want a pedophile and a drug dealer at my party

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>Always wanted to own a leather-bound book.
>Prefer something classic and worth owning a fancy leather-bound book for.
>Look for books
>Expensive as shit
>Sonofabitch.jpg

Hey /lit/ know any relatively cheap (Nothing that cost me like $1000 dollars would be preferred) where I, and possibly others on this board, can find good quality leather-bound books. I don't even care if they have been used as long it...
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>$1000 dollars

shit
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I own dozens of Easton Press & Franklin Library books, and the only way to get them at a decent price is to use eBay and Amazon. Franklin Library is much cheaper in general than Easton, but I think the leather is of slightly lesser quality.
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If you don't care about early editions or anything and just want a nice quality leather bound, strand books has several classics in newer additions

http://www.strandbooks.com/index.cfm

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What are some books with good senses of humor? Dry, dark or sarcastic, I need a few smiles.
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Gravity's Rainbow
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At Swim-Two-Birds
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Anything by Evelyn Waugh, P G Wodehouse, Saul Bellow or Graham Greene.

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>Turning onto the street where his brother Dmitri lodged, he felt hungry, and taking out of his pocket the roll he had brought from his father's, he ate it. It made him feel stronger
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>>8780795
>translations
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>>8780795
>Yes, the newspapers were right: snow was general all over Ireland. It was falling on every part of the dark central plain, on the treeless hills, falling softly on the Bog of Allen and, farther westward, softly falling into the dark mutinous Shannon waves. It was falling, too, upon every part of the lonely churchyard on the hill where Michael Furey lay buried. It lay thickly drifted on the crooked crosses and headstones, on the spears of the little gate, on the barren thorns. His soul swooned...
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>>8780795
That literally couldn't be more straightforward

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Do you believe this is a fine list?

http://www.artofmanliness.com/2016/11/28/100-books-every-man-read/

What amount of that is just bullshit?
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If I see one more thread about this fucking list I'm joining ISIS.
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It seems relatively /lit/

Surprised to see Greeks and stuff like The Maltese Falcon on there
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>>8780655

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Imagine that I am a book publisher and you are a writer. Give me a good reason why I should publish your book instead of another.
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>>8780645
Because I'll come for you in the night otherwise
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>>8780645
Mine is good, theirs is not.
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My book is good

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fuck you i like her
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>>8780552
get off my board redditor
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>>8780552
Me too. I'm mad that people recommend Beloved first though.
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That's cool. I don't like her at all, but everyone has different tastes.

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So /lit/ how do you take notes?
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>>8780516
in my phone on notepad usually.
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>taking notes

Why?
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>>8780516
I summarize chapter by chapter, then add my thoughts. Supporting quotes, too, if I'm going all out.

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Who are some great writers with the love of humanity in their hearts?
I want the grandest sense of empathy possible.
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>>8780474
Kjv Bible
God, the king of all kings, Lord of Lords, became a man and died for all our sins and if we simply trust He did that for us, we're granted eternal life the same second.
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Me you stupid fuck
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>>8780474
Leodor Tolstoyevsky

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Can someone recommend me something that might be useful when trying to create the philosophy shared by villains for a story I'm making?

Well, not exactly villains, but a race of ancients that had(have) a philosophy that drives their actions and instantly makes them enemies of any other race on the planet.

I'm trying to create a world just like LotR, but I don't want the main antagonists to be like "I just hate life/I want power/I'm just evil because reasons".

I don't know if what I want is very well explained. In any case,...
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You just need to read more history and philosophy.

You don't even need to make another LotRs. Whatever it is stewing in the back of your head, put it on the back burner and read up on the real world and old world it once was.

Here's an easy primer in philosophy
http://www.historyofphilosophy.net/
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>>8780548
Thank you, anon. Although, I have to admit that I wanted to avoid reading the whole history of philosophy. I expected you to share philosophies that you found interesting when reading. Nevertheless, I'll give that website a try.
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>>8780447
A rascist elitist pure blood nazi nietzschean genocidal cult. Maybe make them gnostic and the holders of the true blood in a world they see as evil. Then they see themselves as those carrying the holy grail of divine blood while cleaning up the other humans who are the descendents of evil gods. All other people would view it as a genocidal cult. This could be a pretty liberal book if you liked.

Make them a luciferian gnostic pure blood genocidal totalitarian tribal cult. That is fantastic and has relation to reality.

:)

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Do wit and intelligence go hand in hand, lit?
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"No." [Twate, 2013b:269]
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>>8780441
More like a divorced, arguing couple that get somewhat erratic most of the time.
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>>8780441

Is intelligence much more besides memory?
Is wit much more besides memory?

I need to know more about the film industry, /lit/. What books will take me inside the high-stakes world of Hollywood power brokers?
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I haven't read anything from John Green and only know about him from /lit/ memes. But I think he is everything you are searching for.
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the talmud
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start with the greeks

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itt essential americana
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>>8780256
Best americana is by immigrants. Like, Lolita, or American Gods.

The grass is always greener, I guess.
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isn't this in the essential /lit/core chart? you guys have terrible taste
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>>8780256
White Noise.

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Im 70 pages in and I just can't do it anymore. I read for pleasure and this is not pleasurable.
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>I read for pleasure

the true mark of a pleb
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I also read more or less 70 pages, some years ago, and understood that it is supposed to be a depressing book. As I was already a bit so, I risked not aggravate my state. That is, was afraid of reading it, still am, maybe
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>>8780222
Hedonist.

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What is the 4'33" of literature?
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My diary desu

(I don't write a diary ;))
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Meet Shed Simove, and lose any desire to continue your life's work.
http://observer.com/2016/04/meet-the-man-who-sold-hundreds-of-thousands-of-books-with-blank-pages-in-them/
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Infinite jest desu

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life's just attempts to allay boredom, right?
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no, boredom is an attempt to regulate too much creativity.
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>>8780218
and isn't creativity just an attempt to allay boredom?
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Life is a pendulum that sings between pain and boredom.

t. arturio shopholder

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>suddenly being made to read shitloads of books about victorian women

How do I tell my female dominated department that we read too many boring books about boring women?
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just drop out dude, college isn't about reading books man, it's about smoking weed and getting laid
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You could stop being an entitled shitlord
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>>8780154

What's so entitled about wanting variety in my studies?

I went to study literature, I wanted to study all literature, not just predominantly books about the boring lives and underwhelming problems of upper middle class white women from 1820-1930

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Thinking about picking this up but I've heard mixed reviews
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Yes, one of the great Russian classics.

Funny too.
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I bet it's a meme t b h.
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He literally doesn't get up from his bed for half of the book.
The book has around 600 pages.
It's great actually.

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Since imagining Sisyphus happy is just as much of a jump of logic as imagining Jesus to be the son of God, why not just be christian and get it over it?
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>>8780055
this is what happens when you don't start with the Greeks
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>>8780055
The latter requires you to think a certain way, thus making you a slave to a belief and idea.
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>>8780055
Imagining a thing is not the same as believing in it.

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Just how /lit/ are you, anon?
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>>8780028
i'm pretty chilly right now
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2lit4u
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>>8780028
Not enough to ruin my life fantasizing over a particular way of life. I just like to write and read.

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Is this guy worth reading, or is he just "whoa spooooky"? Why are europeans so obsessed with him?
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Worth it if you have literary taste and don't make your decisions based on popular opinion or memes
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>>8779983

They have little knowledge of English, so they can't tell that his prose style is unintentionally hilarious.
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>>8779983
He is worth reading, yes. Start with the Raven and if you like that you'll like his other stuff.

>>8780002
Whatever, I find it great.

In the German speaking world, Musil is just as big an author as Kafka. How come the one is so famous, but the other is unheard of? Have any of you anglo trash ever read Musil?
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>>8779868
Because Americans are brainlets unable to withstand the genius of Musil
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>>8779868
Germans do the same shit with Poe.
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>>8779868

Because people tend not to care about an unfinished novel that's already 3000 pages long, no matter how many critics suck its cock.

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What are some essential fascist books? I've already read Imperium by Francis Yockey, what else?
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Tried Savitri Devi?
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>>8779825
There are no "essential" Fascist books since most Fascists have never read a book
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>>8779864
Aren't you tired of posting the same post twice a day everyday?

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Which fictitious books really focus on capitalism as an underlying theme, like materialism and hedonism?
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>fictitious books
my diary desu
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>meals are a mix between unhealthy binging and starving
Fuck...
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>>8779608
>theme, like materialism and hedonism?
Less than Zero and American Psycho by BEE
Infinite Jest by DFW
Anything by Ayn Rand

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What's wrong with subvocalization?
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Nothing, speedreading is a meme for people who like boasting about how many books they read.
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Speedreading should be only for technical stuff. If you don't subvocalize when reading literature you're missing out.
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Nothing, it just makes you slow. Which is okay, if you enjoy slow, thought, recital type of reading more power to you, but then you'd have to face the reality of spending 2+ weeks on one novel

Don't worry about who I am. If you really want to know about me, just know that I'm risking a lot by posting this.

If you had a childhood, regardless of when you were born, you should remember the cartoon, "The Magic School Bus". It was a children's cartoon show in the '90s, where a crazy science teacher would take students on weekly adventures into places such as into space or through the human digestive system. It was a rather harmless, and educational show, which is the reason why it has been prominently shown to children since its premiere....
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The first episode wasn't even ready to air before the concept spiraled horrifically out of control and terrified test audiences. Originally planned by PBS, it was designed by Melnitsa Animation Studio in Russia, and thus the original pilot episode was partially animated in Russia before the first screening. In the original episode, the doubting school children were brought onto a school bus (it originally did not have eyes) that transformed into a spacecraft and brought them into space, where strange things began...
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>>8779442
Despite the fact it was the original tape, apparently, after the horrific reaction, the writer for "Horror Is Alive!", and the director of this specific episode, in a pout, took the tape and attempted to edit out everything deemed unsavory by the test audience, but quit after about three scenes, and collapsed.

I am guessing that the recut didn't include the bus' eyes, but I'm not sure whether it's a layering mistake, or something much more sinister, due to the fact that two of the student characters, Carlos and Dorothy Ann have no eyes. I mean they are there, but their eyes are missing, and no one mentions it. The bus also looks much more sinister because the front lights are normal on first glance (though still eye-like, almost like a human's eyes while literally frozen) and the grill of the bus just looks extremely sad, like it's in a constant frown. The voice work is also different, with a sense of sorrow and blatant unconfortableness in the American actors' voices. In the PBS edition, Arnold's cousin Janet thinks that Mrs. Frizzle is boring, so Arnold has the teacher take them into space. In this episode, going into space is where things become very messed up. Nothing from the original episode is here, instead the bus "transforms" into a space ship, kind of like one you'd see in a film like 2001: A Space Odyssey.

There's no transition, it just becomes this. The walls are all white and there seem to be infinite corridors with steep drops. From the outside, it looks like a Soviet space rocket (which still makes sense, due to this being animated in Russia), but larger. Arnold comments that this wasn't what he expected and he wants to go home. Janet and Carlos also seem equally confused, but Janet is smiling. Mrs. Frizzle says that there is an override lock on the ship and nobody can leave until it has reached its destination: "We are hurtling toward the sun". Mrs. Frizzle tells everyone that she can turn off the airlock and suffocate everyone, only jokingly, before saying that she will put in the manual override, but it will take six months to reach Earth. After this, the screen begins distorting as the picture goes out of focus in a similar fashion to how the Max Headroom Hijacking went into transmission during Doctor Who. An out-of-place slideshow then played over what sounded like an acoustic version of the Star Wars theme. The only pictures that were shown are that of planets, with each picture having some subliminally hidden disturbing human elements across the planet being shown. Basically, imagine the planet Jupiter having angry-looking human eyes melded into it, realisticly, but not something too out of the ordinary for a skilled Photoshop user to have created.
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>>8779445
She suggests that everyone go into stasis sleep, when a cancerous sore has developed on Mrs. Frizzle's face, that nobody mentions. However, Mrs. Frizzle mentions that there are only nine stasis beds and there are eleven people, including herself. She told them that she'll be fine staying up for six months, but one of the students will have to stay up as well. Ralphie suggests they draw straws. They do so, and Arnold is determined to be the one who has to stay up. Now up to this point, the episode was bafflingly...
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If you could ask John Green one question, what would it be?
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>>8779384
"Could you please sue 4chan to keep them from allowing your image or discussion?"
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>>8779384
Why dont you write more challenging and visceral work? You have the diction, emotional depth and skill to do it, yet you choose to churn out pseudo-meaningful teenage bullshit.

I wish I could inject Bataille into his brain
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>>8779738
>The fault in our solar anus

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What are books that women actually, unironically can never understand? Pic related.
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>>8779312
>tfw my waifu actually and unironically understands this while repeatedly stomping on my balls wearing an 80s power suit with those big shoulder pads b/c she's fucking coked to the max and shit-talking lee iacocca on a rotary dial phone
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>>8779312

Mishima's Patriotism.

It pretty much divided my class 50/50 between the guys and the girls.
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>Anon why would intentionally take the hard path?? What is ego development?


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