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What did he mean by this?

pic related
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4chan is the cave.
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>>8239078
damn...
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>>8239076
He was telling them to read The Tunnel.

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Has anyone ever read this? Is this worth the read? It seems really odd and confusing from what i've heard of it, but I'm very much intrigued.
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>>8239034

Le comfy quirky reddit book.

It's not confusing just annoying.
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I liked it, Its pretty interesting. Didn't find it confusing either, Although when i finished it I was a little disappointed.
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>>8239038
Is it a reddit book? I heard about it because a band I like has a song named after it.

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Have any of you read this? What did you think of it?
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This is an excellent novel. Don't listen to the memesters.
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>>8238979
I saw it in the bookstore recently and I sat and read the beginning portion and was completely underwhelmed.
I'll still probably buy it and finish it, but it didn't really appeal to me
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>>8238979
DUDE DRUGS LMAO
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>>8238979
Not really.

About halfway through and I've yet to see anything interesting happen.

Really wish I would've taken /lit/s advice and steered clear.

>>8238997
Yeah, it's basically this.
We did DRUG and then I talked to some people who not be in the story in the next five pages.

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>finally get around to starting a 'blog'
>make first post
>search for blog post title on google
>results are "Liveleak---Halloween knock outs" and "sikhawareness.com"
>hello darkness my old friend
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>>8238977
>make a thread about your eternal loneliness
>only get one response by some guy reminding you that you're an utter failure

kys my man
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Try a Youtube channel next time.
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>>8238977

If you are going to bitch about lack of publicity at least give us a link to the blog

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Let's be honest, at the end of the day, this book is pretty good, even if it's overread.

Gatsby is one of those characters you'd love to meet one day and hang out with
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>>8238895
>overread
what are you doing
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I really dont think it's that great. All it has going for it is the allure of posterity.
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>>8238897
not reading it right now

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Which authors truly have insights on human experience? At least, subjectively, to you.
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James Joyce because Ulysses presents a perfectly formed human being from whom all can be grasped
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Marcus Aurelius
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john green

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Sup lit. My novel just got a publishing deal from the big five. I do not read though. The last novel I read was in high school and I only used cliff notes. How is my book so good when I hate reading? Am I just that good?
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nice b8 m8
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>>8238883
yo sick good work man. I can't wait to get published.
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lmao I have publish in top 5 years before

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https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/17927395-a-court-of-mist-and-fury

This is the highest rated book on Goodreads beating Brandon Sanderson' books? Why an average reader thinks young adult and fantasy is the epitome of literature?
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I am still not unconvinced that Goodreads isn't a prop for Amazon sales. Almost any book you go to will have a direct link to purchase it through Amazon. Keep in mind too how many people are paid or have bots leave positive reviews for their products- who's to say many popular reviewers on Goodreads are not also paid reviewers and promoters?
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> Why an average reader thinks young adult and fantasy is the epitome of literature?

No one thinks this shit is the epitome of literature but for most people it's going to be more entertaining than a fucking ancient tome about a monomaniacal sperg chucking harpoons at whales and 250 pages of pseudoscientific whale morphology and sailing equipment.
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>>8238835
It basically is. It's owned by Amazon and they even provide guidelines to authors for how best to use it for marketing. Goodreads legitimately is really popular. I don't think they have to pay people to use it. The goals of authors, popular readership, and Amazon align pretty closely in this case.

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>professors writes "calling things a meme is not an argument" on top of paper
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Considering how progressive universities are, he'll probably get fired soon.
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>>8238732
Calling something "not an argument" without an argument is not an argument.
it's actually a meme
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>>8239171
calling something a meme is NOT AN ARGUMENT

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hey guys, I need your help. I want to write a good mystery story, and I have a general plan written out. The thing is that I want the reader to be able to solve the mystery themselves so I want to leave in clues and stuff in the writing. I want to know how to do this without it seeming blatantly obvious?
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>I want to know how to do this without it seeming blatantly obvious?

I meant:

>how to do this without the clues seeming blatantly obvious

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rate your purchases thread.

top is moon and six pence
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8/10 not pleb
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>>8238657
It's exactly the /lit/ definition of pleb. That's not even an insult.
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>>8238635
lol

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Ok so im definitely a huge faggot because one of my favorite stories is A Song of Ice and Fire. Everyone gives the writing a ton of shit for being bad apparently, but i still feel like its a good story regardless of the writing, like the show. Why is it so heavily shit upon?
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>>>/got/
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>>8238538
>Why is it so heavily shit upon?

>Everyone gives the writing a ton of shit for being bad apparently

you answered it yourself. how good a story is entirely irrelevant.
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But the show is the product of the writing and the show is one of the most popular shows out there

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can the best female writers compete againts the best male writers?
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Yes. In some ways they are much better. In some ways they are much worse.

Female authors, especially great ones, appear less because statistically, not as many brilliant women are born as brilliant men. That, coupled with societal conflicts, both real imagined and often perpetuated by other women, often deters women from such things as literature. Most women invest themselves in things like childcare, teaching, and the arts not related to literature. Most men invest in stem fields.

There are plenty of decent and even good writers of either gender in every corner...
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anime is real. also no
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>>8238566
Oh christ. You should have stopped at "yes".

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Click. BANG' The tin can tremored in place, as if to spite your marksmanship, and settled steadfast.
In retrospect, I like to imagine you were thinking about how unwarranted your words were. "Are we still friends?" My utterance was feeble in light of your hostile body language. You glanced at me and stared down the can once more. Maybe I was the tin can, for some reason.

You checked to see if there were more pellets loaded in to the chamber, and were not disappointed. "What the hell are you talking about?" You were somewhere in between feigned...
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>>8238524
DELETE THIS
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>>8238530
Please be constructive.

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>DUDE EVIL TENTACLES AND ALIENS AND SHIT AND MADDENING HORRORS THAT CANT BE DESCRIBED BECAUSE INCOMPRIHENSIBLE SHIT

Was he a hack?
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>>8238440

He was a hack if you interpret his work in the most reductive way imaginable.
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>>8238442
he was also a hack if you read his shitty prose
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He was the equivalent of his time's above average 4chan user and as racist

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Opinion or thoughts on Esperanto?
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I've dabbled in it. As a subject, it fascinates me, but I don't think it's particularly well-suited for literature. It's a good shorthand for communication between people of different languages, but it would be a bad idea to raise people to speak Esperanto as a primary language, even more so if they're raised to only speak Esperanto.
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>>8238396
con-langs are the exclusive domain of meganerds

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What kind of performances would you, elite, pay for to watch in a theatre?

http://www.strawpoll.me/10660096

Remember: Bump this thread to get more anons to reply.
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Start with the Greeks.
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Mary, I would have expected results like this, but I would not have expected from them the purported patricians on /lit/.
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>>8238365
couldnt select 0 options
also, your style is fucking terrible, please stop

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What are some good romance books for guys?
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>>8238329
the torrents of spring
by ivan turgenev
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>>8238329
Sense of Sin- S@yr
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>>8238329
120 Days of Sodom

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I'm going to start writing a book. I'm not very smart or talented but I am a pretty fast typer.

Wish me luck bros.
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not before i kill you for being a pleb

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The one book plebs tout when they feel like blaming the world for their shortcomings.
Regardless of that, however, what's /lit's opinion on Atlas Shrugged? Is it Gold or Turd? Cast your vote and elaborate. Or not.
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>>8238234
My cult thought that this book was the Illuminati's blueprint for taking over the world.
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The best thing to come from Atlas Shrugged are those attempts by assorted libertarian nerds to try and create their own Galt's Gulches. It's hilarious watching them fail.

Right now some Czech ancap is trying to make his own. He's attempting to seize some shitty marshland on the Danube that's disputed between Serbia and Croatia. And every time he and his followers try to set up there the police arrest their asses. It's brilliant.
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>>8238234
Objectifag here, better philosophizing, worse narrative than Fountainhead. She basically gave up and went full nonfiction mode thereafter

We the Living and Fountainhead are the best reads, Atlas is the most important

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Is this a good adaptation?
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as good as you're going to get
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>>8238227
better than the book
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Great soundtrack.

How do I bluepill myself on the society of the spectacle?
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>>8238173

The what now son? Can you please speak English?
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Come again?
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>>8238173
Watch Game of Thrones, remark on how the characters are 'badass'

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Looking for a book on the rise of cocaine/crack, preferably in NY.
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My diary desu
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>>8238037
Dark Alliance by Gary Webb. he literally wrote the book on crack. But it's all in LA, because that's where it was first marketed.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_Alliance

http://www.democracynow.org/2004/12/13/investigative_reporter_gary_webb_who_linked

http://www.laweekly.com/news/ex-la-times-writer-apologizes-for-tawdry-attacks-2614004
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Freakonomics

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what does /lit/ think about the Beats?

I can`t get a real understanding of them besides "counter-culture"

I just picked up On the Road and i`m going into it blind
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>>8238025

what is there to think about beyond what is blindingly obvious about them.

kerouac, ginsberg, bukowski, and the others are exactly what you'd expect them to be
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Can I write? Yeah!
We lack the motion to meme to the new beats
We lack the motion to meme to the new beats

It's here for us to admire if we can afford the beauty of it
Can afford the luxury of turning our pages
Adjust that thousand dollars smile and behold the creation of man
Great actions won't cover ugly words - good pic relateds won't save bad shitposts

We lack the motion to meme to the new beats. Yeah!
We lack... motion
When the day is over - Hey! - the doors are locked on us
Cultural capital buys the access - and we can't...
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>>8238053
>>8238060
are they just pretentious hippies?

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Who here is familiar with the writings of Breece DJ Pancake?

If you're not familiar with him, he was a short story writer writer from West Virginia. He was good, really good. I've only been able to find 4 of his stories online (he was published in the Atlantic) and I was absolutely blown away each time. His characters, his imagery, his prose, i cannot honestly say there is a better post WWII short story writer.

Seriously, this guy is good. Bookmark a story, set aside an hour, and read one. His writing is short, concise and a little confusing with all...
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>>8237986
I've only ever read Trilobites, but I definitely was impressed with his writing.
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>>8238032
Yeah.

The guy actually had a deal for a novel at the time of his death.

He could've written what could've been a great American novel had he lived longer.
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I'd read him but I just can't take his name seriously

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hey i/lit/erates.

I was wondering if there was such a thing as formulas for good stories?
I know about tropes, and I know characters are the most important thing not as much as the story itself but I know there are character types also.

how can I make interesting stories? interesting characters? I want to make a romance webcomic and I can make good looking art already. I just need to read about how to make good stories.

what do you recommend? especially for comedy/drama/romance stories
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Look up The Golden Bough, Hero with a thousand faces, morphology of the fairytale and I don't know, pretty much any given guide to writing.
They're all useless though. If you try following formulas and guides, you'll just end up with formulaic shite. Just learn to write what you intuitively know is good.
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conversations
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The Art of Storytelling

http://www.thegreatcourses.com/courses/the-art-of-storytelling-from-parents-to-professionals.html

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>his son, Jackson Pynchon,
>Jackson Pynchon

Did he go too far?
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>>8237936
Jackson was his wife's maiden name.
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It's amazing that he's been able to hide his appearance for so long. Even in this current age of information and surveillance. I'm impressed by it.
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>>8237980
It would be different if he were not in literature.

Greg Egan is another author who wants his face to stay unknown and he succeeded by asking nicely: http://gregegan.customer.netspace.net.au/images/GregEgan.htm

He also has the best homepage

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>when you finish a good book and you realize you're back in the real world
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>>8237915
>when you smell straight man poo
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>>8237983
inb4 angry marxists

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Is Google right?
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>>8237808
Maybe
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>50% females

And who said women can't write?
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>>8237863
Literally no one


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