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Good afternoon, /Lit/!

Today I'm feeling the urge to delve into witchy business. What books do you guys recommend?
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>>8226014
Fedora as fuck. I bet you're a wiseman, or a sage.
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Serious answers?

The White Goddess might be a good place to start. Very inspirational to modern neopaganism. From there, you're best bet might be to check out Gardner, he's like the founding father of Wicca. Post-Gardner wicca is slightly bullshitty but if that doesn't sate your lust then check out Drawing Down the Moon and The Triumph of the Moon. For a fun fictional story about witches, you might also try to read The Mists of Avalon. It's a re-telling of the Arthurian mythos from a feminist neopagan perspective.


But if you're not...
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Brida by Paulo Coehlo, I thought it was pretty good

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Any good literature on hermits/recluses? Or on being a hermit?
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Notes from the underground
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>>8225995
The novel I'm currently working on, entitled 'Floating Above the Crowd'.
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Saint Simeon Stylites

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>bored on a Thursday afternoon
>go into local B&N because no actual bookstore in my area
>out of curiosity look for Mein Kampf in the WW2 section
>this edition is the only one on the shelf
>forward from the translator blatantly insulting Hitler and trying to discredit him right off the bat
>put it down and walk out

What's a good edition of this book that isn't afraid...
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>What's a good edition of this book that isn't afraid to present the original text as it is?

The original?
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look on amazon
>wanted to read meme kampf
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>>8225935
He meant a translation.

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Any tips on writing Sword and Sorcery literature? Likewise, any advice on writing erotic fiction?

I've been reading a lot of Robert Jordan's Conan Chronicles, and I really like that he's found the median between classical fantasy and a more modern style.

I'd like to write a series of short stories about a massive barbarian that fights wizards, steals treasure from ancient monsters, and ravages the wives of kings and plump slave girls.
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>>8225887
Conan. You'd like to rewrite Conan.
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>>8225887
Well I like fantasy with expansive, complex, meaningful lore. Extra points if you can include the exposition of the lore into the narrative itself.
For erotica just follow your libido. If what you're writing turns you on some people will surely feel identified.
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>>8225889
Yes, essentially.

I guess I'm asking what key points I should keep in mind while writing Sword and Sorcery fiction?

The same goes for erotic fiction. What makes a good erotic story?

I've done some digging around on Google, and haven't really found any good examples where someone has found a good middle ground between brutal, medieval fight scenes and tantalizing sexual content.

I guess I want to write Conan, but with more descriptive sex scenes.

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Anyone got some surrealism to recommend?
>plz no more Murakami- I can't take it anymore
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paris peasant - louis aragon
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Joan Miro is one of my favorite modernist painters
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>>8225885
Cool- me too

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>"u cheeky cunt, say to my face that Marx was wrong and communism has been propahly tried"
>"LEAVE IT JEZ"
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>>8225836
Sure is summer, boys
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>>8225836
>>8225843
It's almost like I'm actually on reddit.
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Has anyone submitted to the banner contest?

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>Jesus Barabbas
His name was Jesus too. Okaaay.
>Barabbas means son of the father
WTF? What is going on here?
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Barabbas is certainly the most interesting figure in the Bible. I wish there were more on him.

Any apocrypha on Barabbas?
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>>8225847
There's the novel by Lagerkvist.
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>>8225849
Weird, the cover showed up earlier today in a facebook illustration group.

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Where to start with James Joyce and then where to go?
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>>8225798
this is not a question
fuck you

Dubs
Portrait
Ulysses
Finnegans

no easier answer in the entirety of literature
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Dubliners
Chamber Music
Exiles
Portrait of the Artist as a Young Man
Ulysses
Pomes Peyach
Finnegans Wake

That'll take ya a year or 3
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>>8225802

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SAAqiO_Z9Vs

along with Inherent Vice, might this be the rebirth of literary kino?
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>>8225771
That book was trash, and I don't expect the movie to be any different.
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>>8225796
The book is excellent, actually, but a lot of Roth's books have film adaptations.
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Lol of course they show the explosion right at the start of the trailer because that's what gets audiences interested

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Any books that explain how buddhism and stoicism are similar/related?
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yes

Why Buddhism and Stoicism are Both Bullshit For Pseuds Who Want To Look Deep Without Intellectually Engaging with Anything
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>>8225734
>>8225751 means Confucius and I quite agree.
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>>8225751
>continentalists

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Why is this considered a great book? And why it took years until it gained popularity?
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it's cleanly written, self-aware but not obnoxiously so, and the theme of life being a constant stream of disappointment resonates with this generation, also, marketing.
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>>8225738
>cleanly written

Explain this meme. When is it a merit, and when is it a flaw?
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>>8225772
It's a flaw when it doesn't compliment the novel.

Is it generally worth while to take writing classes?
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>>8225584
No.
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>>8225584
Yes.
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"worthwhile" is one word you dirty whore

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>planet is doomed
>selected humans are welcomed on board of the ship of a benefactor, which will travel to a new planet
>benefactor is a mix between dr strangelol and fantômas, who has a crew of wacky characters
>candidates to recreate human race are not so perfect themselves
>hilarity and absurdism ensues

see it as some loveboat movie written by ionesco
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part 1

>P picks me up for roadtrip
>she's on peyote
>i can't drive
>jesustakethewheel.jpg
>make it to the city
>throw illegal party on rooftop
>P seems like shes about to jump
>everyone is too busy trying to open a wine bottle without a corkscrew to notice
>tackle her

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>>8225571
>be me
>not enjoing science and education that much
>going to convent school because paps is all about that monk life
>meet cool dude who is a fucking genius
>tells me that my place is not ment to be here
>run away from school to enjoy life
>take a nap
>wake up on the...
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How the hell did Harry Potter become so successful?
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>>8225568
Because it was for ten year olds. Stop making this thread.
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Victorian nostalgia themed fantasy that allowed children to easily imagine themselves stepping into the world. The books really arent terrible as far as childrens books go and theres nothing wrong with having fond memories of them. The Young Adult defebse force assholes claiming its equivelant to high literature are cancer tho.
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Easy story that came at the right, allowed people to growth up with it and as time passed, tackled deeper and darker subjects. Also likable characters, and did not focus exclusively on a love story, but rather how to endure and overcome the hardships of our life.

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can good prose be translated without losing it's value? why or why not?
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could be, but reading lit writen in same language you are using is more valuable to you
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I claim translations can be superior to the original work.
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>>8225560
It is about removing the self or 'cleaning the glass' between the author and the 'objective' (it's more complicated than objective/subjective imo) reality they are describing

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have you ever cried in front of someone /lit/?

write about it and post here
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/lit/ is for the discussion of literature, specifically books (fiction & non-fiction), short stories, poetry, creative writing, etc. If you want to discuss history, religion, or the humanities, go to /his/. If you want to discuss politics, go to /pol/. Philosophical discussion can go on either /lit/ or /his/, but ideally those discussions of philosophy that take place on /lit/ should be based around specific philosophical works to which posters can refer.

Check the wiki, the catalog, and the archive before asking for advice or recommendations, and please refrain from...
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>>8225466
this is encouraging people to write something, and it's not the first thread to do so newfriend
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>>8225461
other than when very young?

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What are some good books about grand archaeological-esque adventures like pic related? Dan Brown's stuff come to mind but I've been lead to believe that his work isn't particularly good in a practical literary sense.

You can shit on me all you want. My skin is thick.
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King Solomon's Mines
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>>8225425

Why would you dismiss Dan Brown's works, when they're more intelligent than the writing in your pic related.
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bumping cos I wanna know too

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>no one on this board read taipei in the original taiwanese
>plebs think they can discuss tao lin by reading him in translation

lmao @ ur lives. pathetic.
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>Taiwanese
>A language
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wow, very such funny post OP. made me top kek. thanks for this
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quality post anon, these retards wouldn't understand

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Would you anons be down with pen-paling? We can limit one or two people to each person and I'm assuming everyone here is willing to write. Maybe exchange throwaway e-mails? Talk about books or something? It can work out.
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>>8225260
The ubermensch me would be but instead I am a piece of shit. Write back soon

Your friend,
Jk rolling otflmao
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I've tried it before but i just got a weirdie. I'd be willing to give it another go tho

I like all kinds of lit tho i have a Modernist tilt, am heavy into music (jazz and world music lately), education, etc
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I'd be interested.
Not sure but I might be a "weirdie" like
>>8225297
said. I'm not lolsorandumb, but I think I might be on the robot spectrum (but I had a gf, I'm not a full wizard. Maybe a sorcerer).

Your friend,
Richard W. Proudmore-Wellingthorn

Is this poetry or prose?
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>>8225205
Fragments of notes not designed to be assembled as a novel.
There are semblances of poetry and prose, but ultimately just notes
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>>8225211
so it is fiction? like a fragmented attempt for a novel?
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>>8225205
Could hardly care, I just love opening it at arbitrary pages and start reading

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/lit/ criticism thread.
there wasn't one up, and i feel like there should be a constant general for this board.

recently i noticed i'd slacked in my writing habits, so i forced myself to start writing at least one thing a day, be it a stone in the pond short story, a small poem, anything. to try and branch out, i've started forcing myself to write in different niches and styles and here's something i would appreciate honest criticism of.
not reflective of my genuine work, rather a stylized piece of how i imagine this pseudonym would write.
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why are you autists posting jaypegs of text now instead of using pastebin? how am i supposed to greentext the shittier passages?
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>>8225123
i genuinely don't know, i only recently started frequenting the board and the last criticism thread i saw had adopted this style and i wanted to fit in
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r8

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Thrillers that are actually very good. I'd say Red Dragon, Silence of The Lambs and Hannibal.

Any other good recommendations?
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>>8225116

Or any crime recommendations? Books which you'd assume were shit but then somehow aren't?
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I'm reading "Depraved
the shocking true story of America's first serial killer"

So far it's not too boring. It's started to get good and it's just the beginning.

This "pharmacist" had relocated to Chicago, built a 3 story sprawling building that became known as "the castle." It was essentially designed as a fun house of confusing hallways, traps, and a cellar with things like a stretching rack, surgical implements and he had built a kiln that was perfectly sized for human bodies.

I just loved this...
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>>8225184
Sounds like The Devil in White City?

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The Sailor Who Fell From Grace With The Sea, warning spoilers.

The use of descriptive words to describe each emotion and object was fantastic (honour to the translator too)

As you meet Noboru's friends and how they despise society which I feel is just the leader of the group influencing them all with his nihilistic views ( Noboru was very impressionable). First he respects Ryuji but when he tells his friends they basically say that is bullshit and Ryuji is just another empty person. and then near the end of the book you find out Ryuji doesn't even like...
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>>8225097

Arguing about feminism in Japan and Japaneses literature or other media is pointless because it's a male dominated society and always will be, ironic though how they've managed to come up with better written female characters without resorting to agenda pushing or for trendy reasons.
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>>8225122
First Japanese novel I've read, but are you referring to manga at all?
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>>8225097
I don't see any femininity as a theme, but, indeed, the book is about a masculine way of life, as japanese see it. You would the same themes a lot in anime and manga, though, of course, in a much more diluted and westernised way. It's a classical question of pursuing your dream versus obtaining happiness in small life, which, generally, only appears for a man. Though, of course, it's not the Dream Ryuji was seeking, but Glory (and death): a japanese particularity.

I'm tempted to say that...
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how do i into literary criticism? i want to write something like one of the essays in pic related for my thesis.

so far I have Mimesis by Auerbach, but not much more. Should I read A. C. Bradley? Nabokov's lectures?
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norton anthology of critical theory. take the theory/criticism course your uni (likely/should) offers. if it doesn't make you hate theory/lit crit ask your professor for advice on what else to read.

it's a highly academic and somewhat esoteric field, and a lot of your preconceived notions on what lit crit entails are likely mistaken. harold bloom writes "pop" lit crit insofar as such a thing exists, there are some differences with "real academia" lit crit.
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>>8225083
thanks!

is writing 'pop' lit crit bad if i have no aspirations of actually becoming an academic? as in, will it not be a good thesis project? i just thought it would be fun for a one-off project.
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>>8225119
Not who you asked, but if after exposing yourself to [what is apparently] academic criticism doesn't dissuade you from wanting to write 'pop' criticism I see no reason not to do what you want.

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Daily reminder this ugly fucker ruined everything and set us down the road to chaos.

William of Ockham hate thread, post what you've got against William "Philosophy is Worthless" Ockham
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okcham was right about L I T E R A L L Y everything
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>>8225044
Not haircuts.
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>>8225159
Fuckin' Sick

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Anyone have the Islam green pill list?
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The fuck is green pill?
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>>8225037
What is this? A jihad for ants
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>>8225066

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Out of all the meme novels which one is the friendliest to people who have never read anything supper long?
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>>8225036
Infinite Jest because it's the easiest one.
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Personally I found 2666 the most purely readable
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>>8225036
Infinite Jest and 2666. The Tunnel is the least friendly of all of them.

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I had a dream that I met Charles Bukowski outside of a shady nightclub in a dirty city. He made a sexual joke about a couple girls walking by and told me to smoke more.

I've never read one of his books.
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>>8224953
rad
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>>8224953
It's a sign, you should read Post Office.
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>>8224953
I saw Bukowski incarnate at my place of work one day. Looked exactly the age in your pic: similar stubble, slicked back hair, same smart casual form of dress just less pockmarked. He kept looking at me like only we knew what was going on. He looked bored.

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Are there any good books with the theme of this kino?
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>>8224815

i've never read one, but maybe there's a warhammer 40k novel about chaos marines?

event horizon is the prequel to warhammer 40k universe
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>>8224828
Kek
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>>8224828
>event horizon is the prequel to warhammer 40k universe

I don't see the connection at all...

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Can we have a "best of" thread for Dalkney Press? What are some of your favorites.
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At Swim-Two-Birds

I've honestly never found a book as continuously engaging as this one.
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>>8224851
Curious, I found The Third Policeman dramatically more engaging. I'll have to return to ASTB eventually.
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>>8224856
I've not read that one but it is on my list after Graveyard Clay.


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