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Would writing a short story about a son that tortures his father after years of abuse be too edgy to be actually read by anyone?
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>>8220118
Make it a daughter instead. Women are inherently evil while men are better.

it would really capture the true essence of a women.

my friends on /r9k/ would read it too
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>>8220124
"Lit" should just become a redpilled literature board DESU.
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>>8220118
I've never heard anyone describe Festen as edgy, so I'd say go ahead.

Hi, I've been browsing /r9k/ for a while now which has redpilled me to women.

I know I'll never have a romantic relationship or any attention from women and I'm not devastated by that because I am convinced their nature is evil, shallow, and not worth the trouble.

Is their any literature which expounds on this fundamental insight into the worthlessness of women?

I've read Schopenhauer's 'On Women' already and it blew my mind and made me feel much better about being unloved and unlovable.

Recommend me books that asserts...
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>>8220107
Looking for Alaska by greenebean
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>please only recommend me any books that can just confirm whatever conclusions I've already reached from /r9k/

Just skip the books, you've made up your mind already.
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Is this post a parody?

Shit is uncanny

>i hate women because other men told me to
>someone rec me lit to confirm my pre-existing bias

you have stunted yourself
you could explore and learn and enjoy the world but instead you've denied yourself this for no reason

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"1 hour left" she said, I thought to myself what is she planning in telling me. As the time passed I dozed of and fell asleep. when i woke up you message read "I haven't been fully honest with you". I wrote what, "I didn't want to end it like this" you typed back and I said "TELL ME". She responded with "I actually a guy".
"Don't lie to me".
"ok I will tell you the truth" she continued "I am very sick and don't have very long left to live, I... I didn't mean to make you...
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didn't read

kys
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Probably the worst thing I've read on this board.
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>>8220025
you werent fucking kidding

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I'M REALLY MOTIVATED RIGHT NOW.

I HAVE AN IDEA, AND I WAS GOING TO WRITE UP A CHAPTER TO SEE HOW IT GOES.

THEN I REMEMBERED THAT I'M SHIT AT WRITING.
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*sticks my finger into your pocket and wiggles around*
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>>8219977
Become less shit at writing then.
By practicing.
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You don't sound that motivated to me, faggot.

You don't get better at writing by not writing.

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Is there an actual good read by "I do drugs" guy?
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>>8219902
no.
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I can't take him seriously after finding out he didn't even trip anymore after like '89 or something.
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>>8219924
I didn't know that. That makes him twice as retarded.

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How does one write a novel set in a dystopian future that's more the stuff on the left and less the steaming pile of dogshit on the right?
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>>8219867
You can't. It'll always be the stuff on the right now. The low hanging fruit has all been picked, and if you wrote a book like those on the left now, in this day and age, it would be seen as extremely naive.
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>>8219867
> research oppressive political regimes
> read classic dystopian novels to see how the concepts have been expressed
> research political concerns of our time (i.e. UK leaving the European Union, Donald Trump, ISIS, etc).
> create a protagonist distinctive from other dystopian novels but not so distinctive that the reader can't self-insert themselves into the protagonist's position

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>>8219867
The Road's pretty good.

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Been writing poetry for 10+ years, next week I'm doing a reading in a bookshop in front of about 50 people.

There's 3-4 guest poets, then an open mic. Usually the audience is appreciative.

Any advice?
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>>8219789
Advice on what? Presumably you know how to read out loud
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>>8219789
Make eye contact with one person and hold it for the entire reading.
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>>8219789
Post some material, anon.

So, say I really like the stranger by Albert Camus. The story itself was a bit dry and bland while I was reading it, but for some reason it really stuck with me. If I was looking for something that has that sort of shock wave of intellectual effect in your brain, but was also more engaging to read, what would you recommend? And you don't have to say it, I confess to being a pseudo intellectual.
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>>8219779
>I confess to being a pseudo intellectual

It shows.

If you want a real brainfuck and insight into the truth of things, read these:

>Mein Kampf by Hitler
>On Women by Schopenhauer
>Ride the Tiger by Evola
>The Culture of Critique Series by McDonald

Read these and you'll know how the world and people work. You'll be redpilled in no time
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>>8219792

agreed! whatever you do don't start with the greeks, its a joke, just read some nietzche and get all existentialist brother. We're all gonna make it, us geniuses.
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>>8219792
>Mein Kampf by Hitler
THE TRUTH INIT WILL SHAKE YOU

WE ARE BREAKING THE CONDITIONING!!! GET YOUR FLORUIDE FILTERS NOW!!!! FUCK THE KIKES!!!!!!!!!!

Which of these should I buy and why?
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>no Barthelme
>no Munro
>no Hemingway
>no Crane
>no Chekov
Besides, the books it features by Kafka, Borges and Cortazar are far from their best.
The answer to your question is Lydia Davis, OP, but this is a sucky chart
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>>8219759
>Lydia Davis
Thank you, I don't really know much about short stories. I hope I'm not getting memed though. I was gonna get the complete short stories of kafka, I actually have that in my cart on amazon right now. Waiting til the time is right to buy it.
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I hear that invisible cities is really deep, I think I'll pick that one up as well.

lit, am I fucking alone in feeling this way??? I started like 5 books and I have this tendency to start books and not finish them because I get bored. Does this happen to other people too? I often start a book and feel like it has nothing of deeper value that I am going to be walking away thinking about, so I put the book down because I don't want it to become a chore that makes me hate the book.
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>>8219648
>am I fucking alone in feeling this way

yeah, kid, you're the only person in the history of the world that has ever felt that way. congratulations. good post.
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>>8219648
Just read short stories.
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>>8219663
like what?

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do you write in your mother tongue? i find it almost obscene, both the experience and the postwriting reading. i can only write in other two languages i know, it flows quite smoothly in them. on the other hand, i can only have full philosophical discussions in my 1st language. i can have them in the other two, but a conscious effort is needed.

what about you anon, whats your relationship to language? and to writing in particular?
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>>8219634

Can read/understand 5 languages but exclusively speak/write in based English.
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>>8219634
>do you write in your mother tongue?

no, for the same reasons.
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>>8219634
What's your mother tongue?

Beckett prefered writing in French, can't think of any other famous writers off the top of my head though.

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Can someone pretty please with a cherry on top explain why the hell people like these books?

Even real writers talk about them like they're hot shit. I do not understand. Is this a giant meme or something? I had to immediately stop reading when the Mary Sue protagonist with flaws like "some teachers hate him because he's SO good at stuff!" and "oh he's brash which can get him into trouble sometimes that little rascal!", with color-changing eyes and bright red hair, who is not only the greatest, but the youngest to ever be so great- and...
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I gave up on the book when Denna was losing at cards.

I thought
>huh, this is refreshing
>normally she's an unbearably clever Mary Sue
>it's nice to see she's not perfect at everythi...
Oh wait, it was all a clever ruse. She was just lulling everyone into a false sense of security. Denna wins!

Fuck it.
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You have to talk about them while knowing what they are.

If we're talking fantasy stories for young ones, it's an alright book. If we're comparing it to literary fiction of high caliber, it's absolute garbage.

It's like reviewing OG Maco's 'U Guessed It' and saying it's shit because it's nowhere near the quality of Bach.

If you like this shit as a teenager or a kid, it's okay; but if you are an adult who would be able to comprehend something beyond a children's book and still read this type of...
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>>8219577
It's a Bard, a performer, telling his life's story. Very definition of an unreliable narrator. That's why he's so perfect.

Having said that, I still hate the story as well. Denna and Kvothe are fucking insufferable. I like the prose though, the guy can write.

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Read Starship Troopers. first book in a long time that I really thoroughly enjoyed..

are any of Robert A. Heinlein's other books worth a read
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>>8219559
Stranger in a Strange Land and The Moon is a Harsh Mistress seem like obvious recommendations.
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I like how this one and Stranger in a Strange Land are basically polar opposites.

Nigga really shifted his views.
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People really like to criticize Heinlein for his ideological preachiness. Honestly that's kind of what I like about him.

Anyway The Moon is a Harsh Mistress is a real good one.

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>by which
>upon which
>over which
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>thusly
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>off of
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>had had

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should i read this or infinite jest?
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Both or neither.
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>>8219442
this
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>>8219442
No.

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What is some good fiction about growing up?

Particularly the lewd aspects
>first love / kiss / fuck etc.
>not-so-innocent interactions with siblings
>puberty-related stuff
>burgeoning sexuality
>wincest (or the regular, soul-destroying kind)
>inappropriate adult "friends"

Generally, all the stuff that Cinema is afraid to do, and only literature can do...
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Joyce's A Portrait.
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This.

A comfy af coming of age story with a sympathetic main character (especially if you were a loser who fapped to his sisters when you were a teenager) plus wincest.

And it's written by a patrician writer so it has dat prose.

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I'll start.
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>>8219384
The God Delusion
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Is Mistborn worth the 1700 pages?
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>>8219382
No. Don't make the same mistake I made. It's cringe-worthy with all the YA romance and anime-tier plot. He desperately tries to make it quirky and subversive but it just doesn't work. Don't even bother with it.
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>>8219382

For 1700 pages you could read Gibbon.
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>>8219382
Nope, it really should have been about 400 pages tops.

Hey lit, sorry if this isn't appropriate but I had a question for y'all. Are contractions always grammatically legal? I've had a history teacher take off points for using the contractions "don't" and "shouldn't" in a paper. I've tried looking through sources for grammatical and writing rules he had sourced. Chicago Press manual of style 1906, but could only find a definition of a contraction which makes me think its entirely legal.

Please help me understand senpaitachi.
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contractions are grammatically legal but not really formal enough for a paper
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>>8219213
>grammatically legal
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Don't use contractions on a college paper, *especially* not a history paper. Grammar prudery is all most history professors have.

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Can /lit/ give me some good right wing writers/books that are not on this list pls?
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Yukio Mishima
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>>8219133
evelyn waugh
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CS Lewis

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Are there any qt girls that actually read novels of substantial merit that aren't feminist prudes? All the girls on my campus read shitty YA and distopian novels. Ever met a girl that really loves to read good books, /lit/?
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I know one.

She is a Greek lit student and actually knows some of the language.
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>>8219001
She cute?
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>women

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..
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and but so
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w/r/t [1]

[1] jest

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Why did Iago do it?
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Othello promoted someone ahead of him, and he also suspected him of having slept with his wife.

The idea that Iago's motives are mysterious, that he seemingly does it all "for no reason" is a weird myth. Iago straight up says why he hates Othello.

I've posted this before and somebody replied that, well, how can we *believe* Iago, you know, because he's so deceptive? This is a needless complication that muddles things without explaining anything.
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>>8219021
tl;dr: Iago did it for the kek's and memes.
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>>8219021
Pretty much this.

Also, 'Othello' was not written as tragedy in the traditional sense; Iago is actually the hero in it.

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What other stories have a comparable character to Tom Bombadil?
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>>8218940
tu puta madre
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>>8218956
jajaja eso
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>>8218956

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hey /lit/ no memeing here, I'm genuinely curious as to what is your favorite Thomas Pynchon book? I myself find V and Inherent Vice the most enjoyable/rewarding
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>>8218867

Only ever read Lot49 and V.

That being said V. is superior.
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>>8218867
>white male upper-middle class college student detected
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>>8218867
None.

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It's been awhile, /lit/. I haven't been here in a good while. Is there a recommended set of pic related? I want the Penguin Classics set in paperback, but can only find 1-3. Help me out.
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>dad gave me his copy of D&F
>inherited my grandfather's copy of D&F
feels good man
I also got my grandfather's Durant
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>>8218791
Do you have an entire set? Or a collection all in one book? Or the abridged version?
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>>8218784
Fuck the Romans

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two questions of DUNE

how does Leto breed against prescience? this makes no sense?
and, why can't' Paul tell the fremen to stop jihad? they worship him.
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Your English is terrible.

Leave. Come back, maybe, if you improve your grammar.
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>>8218869
fuck you!!!
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>>8218771
The Jihad was ment to consume the universe, like Paul was never a God, but he was far more than a man. He was something no one ever planned, a monster. Fyde (Fade?) Also had the same genetic potential to become what Paul became but his life of privilege stunted his development

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Writers of /lit/, have you grasped the power of iambs yet?

Have you learned to hear the bob and weave of English? Melville got it right. So did Faulkner. Have you?
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Faulker was a manlet.
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Yes, but my vocabulary is ridiculously small, because English is my second language.

I've fully absorbed the power of the decassílabo heróico, though.
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>>8218734
Thanks for informing me. I will disregard him from now on.

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Is she worth reading for the first time past the age of 20?
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she looks so cute...
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Yes, I'm 25, started reading her recently, she's great.
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>>8218714
she was supposedly really qt

how does it feeling knowing even he is much more successful, well-known, loved, and respected than you?
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>implying I have feelings
Loud laughter
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He's basically fake-woke annoying ass Voxsplainer for little kids and probably got people to raise money for my disease even though he's a shitty writer. The point is that I have bigger problems to worry about that this insufferable memer.
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>>8218709
I'm jelly of his money
that's all


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