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>Only one enemy remained; two if you counted God.

Surely the most overrated author of all time?
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>not Vishnu

ya blew it
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That seriously gives me chills. What book is this from?
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>>8775207
Holy... I want more.

Is this a new photo of Thomas Pynchon? It suddenly started popping up in google searches
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>>8775178
looks like he got Hemmingway'd
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Jim Dodge?
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Just found this on Google as well op

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What is the significance of the billboard?
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That's the problem with this book, isn't it? It meant exactly what it says.
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>>8775134
Read the sign at the start of American Psycho and the poster at the end of Glamor, and it'll become clear.
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>>8776896
Or you could just tell us your amazing theory so that we can tell you if you are an asshat or not.

>>8775134
It's been a while since I've read it, the billboard was on the freeway and said "disappear here" right?

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What does /lit/'s reading space look like?

Pic related, my desk where reading is usually done other than in bed.
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>>8775108
This is from last year, but it's mostly unchanged since then.
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>>8775168
Cute cat trying to block out light. The spot looks comfy.
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>>8775108
>How Britain Made the Modern World
Is that sci-fi or does someone actually believe that?

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this is the longest thing i've ever read. pretty comfy in its slow buildup of the characters and world. it's basically YA but did anyone else here enjoy it?
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>>8775096
I love it.
The time skip could be done better, however.

Did you ever read Pact, also by Wildbow?
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>>8777151
The whole thing isn't that tightly written, but the time skip is particularly bad. It's forgivable just because the setting is that good. I haven't read anything else by the author though, I know when I was reading Worm he was finishing Pact and starting up another serial
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>>8775096
Very cliched and too enamored with capeshit stereotypes. Some of the characters were embarrassing to read.

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Posted this on /his/ but it was buried under a mound of inane memery.

I'll start reading "The Age of Extremes: The Short Twentieth Century"by Hobsbawm and "The Historian's Craft" by Marc Bloch tonight for a course, any of you read them? What did you think about them? I've read another book by Bloch (the one about the Royal Malaise, don't know how it's called in English) and it was fairly interesting, the man has an eye (short sighted as I presume it became, eh) for sources and ongoing social processes.

Additionally,...
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>>8774941
INANE MEMERY!
DID SOMEBODY SAY INANE MEMERY?
OH BOY (oh) BOYO, WADDA GODDA DO DA GO!?
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>Hobsbawm
I like the bit where his marxism outweighs his jewishness :3 Good historian

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Why is it in all this French lit like Beckett and Céline the characters are completely at root with their sexual nature, yet express apathy towards the action itself, and longing on the actor.

Molloy's mistress was cheating on her husband, Molloy longed for love in the actor rather than the action.

Moran's hatred towards his son could be the result of adulterous behaviour on Nilette, but he possesses no ill towards her.

Likewise, Bardamu from Journey mentions how Lola cuckolded him while he was on leave in France, yet expresses ill on the action...
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Also, not to mention that Moll's relationship with Macmann was wholly based on self-sexual redemption in the face of death, rather than love.

Which isn't necessarily a cuckold situation, but certainly expresses a negative selfish sexuality, least on the part of Moll, as noted by her low selfimage given to her by her father.
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>>8774830
Because the French are gay
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>Beckett
>French lit

Many keks heard in the dark.

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Why did he grow the afro?
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>>8774801
He had taken the traditional haircut as far as it could go, so set sail for something outrageous and wacky.
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Please delet this
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epic

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DUDE DRUGS LMAO
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t. only read Fear and Loathing.
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>>8774796
>I haven't read Campaign Trail to put Las Vegas into real world context
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I like opis and psys
Please dont hate me lit

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>towards
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>>8774721
That's how you spot a pleb
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>>8774721
>>8774778
Why?
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>"How a Ship having passed the Line was driven by storms to the cold Country towards the South Pole;"

Fuck you Coleridge, stopped reading right there

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What female author would /lit/ get a 12 yo boy to read?

My little brother reads a lot, but I noticed that he hasn't yet read anything written by a female author.

Charlotte Bronte and Harper Lee come to mind, but I think he's a bit young for that.

Suggestions?
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kys. Tell him to start with the Greeks first though.
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>>8774711
get him to read books of good quality, rather than reading books of every demographic.

If he only reads male authors, why MUST he read a female author? and why stop at female? why not mtf transexual, my not ftm transexual, why not asexual, why not homosexual men, homosexual women, why not communists, why not fascists, why not extreme religious fanatics, why not get him to read obscure chinese medical journals, or popular russian military textbooks?

Why are you shilling your agenda, OP?
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Ayn Rand.

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I am looking for this fairly obscure book. The publisher died in 2010 and real copies are going for hundreds of $£.

I have tried bookzz, libgen, popular torrent sites, google and duckduckgo file searches.

A few days ago I saw someone here boasting that they could find any book, just give them the name. Can /lit/ help me?
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Get it through a library.
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>>8774637
County library service doesn't have it.
I could search for an inter library loan but it costs money with no guarantee they have it and no refund if they don't.

I may be screwed with this one.
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>>8774664
>I could search for an inter library loan but it costs money with no guarantee they have it and no refund if they don't.

Wow, you use a shitty library.

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If everything is yours already, doesn't this mean that you are everything, and by exerting force over it you, in truth, split yourself into identity within its forgetfulness which tries to remember itself, so every exertion is an immolation for the God that is you?
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>>8774614
It's not your property if you can't exert your control over it, thus everything isn't yours to begin with. Even if it were, why would you identify property as self?
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I wonder if Marx and Engels made fun of and bullied Stirner for being an edgy fuccboi
>Grab his bag, Karl!
>Tell me again how its still your property, Max, do it!
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>>8774692
Die Freien, and 19th century philosophy in general, were competitions to be the edgiest fuccboi. Stirner would have quietly observed in the corner, then gone home to mack teen pussy and write Ego.

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I am a Brit trying to into American history. I plan to read the volumes in the Oxford History of the United States (eg The Glorious Cause, Empire of Liberty etc).

What are the best biographies of the American presidents? The longer and more detailed the better. The earliest take priority.
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>>8774583
The People's History of the United States by Howard Zinn
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>>8774591
Not into leftist fiction thanks.
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>>8774583
aristotle - global rule 16

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Has any1 read one of those?

Thoughts?
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>>8774579
Any and all self help books belong in the incinerator. Pure ideological thrash
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>>8774586
the bible is pretty good to be honest
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>>8774579

Feeling Good is helpful for identifying and replacing ways of thinking that can fuel depression. Not a replacement for therapy or medication if they're needed, but a good tool to use. It's basically a book version of Cognitive Behavioral Therapy

Which tropes are /lit/ sick to the back teeth of?
For me, it's the post-apocalyptic wasteland where everyone has decided to act like a twat.

I couldn't care less if that idea never pinged my cultural radar again.

>pic related
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Maybe you wouldn't be exposed to tropes if you read less garbage.
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>>8774408

This is my favourite type of book.

Can you recommend others?
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>>8774625
mainstream =/= garbage

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>been a wide reader of philosophy
>discover poetry
>mind-blown
>try to read philosophy again
>cant

well, i think im cured, this shit just wont do a thing anymore...

existential uneasiness is being hungry.
philosophy is like trying to beat hunger by reading recipes.
wittgenstein's ''therapy'' is like cooking without eating.
poetry is eating.

western modern philosophers...
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>>8774350
and Rimjaub is like christmas dinner
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What poets do you enjoy?

I agree with you, philosophy (unless written artistically like Nietzsche/Plato/Bergson/Deleuze/etc.) cannot approach metaphysical truth like poetry can
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>>8774355
>Rimjaub

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>work as a librarian
>At the checkout counter for a bit
>See straight white dude in his 20s in line
>He looks and breathes like an unemployed virgin
>When it's his turn in line I learn he has the fingernails and stench of one too
>"Ah yes I simply had to check out Brothers K again, " he said loudly enough to let him know he reads entry level lit with titles he can't pronounce,"...
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Why have I seen this pic around so often lately? I didn't think people even really cared about us very much.
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>>8774627
It's just funny anon.
Plus Albanians are probably worst among all europoors
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>>8774638
No I agree it's quite funny but I'm just surprised by the publicity.

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Just got my third PhD rejection. Welp, back to being an intellectually unsatisfied high school teacher and hoping next time will be better.

How's your professional /lit/ life going, /lit/?

Ps. I'm not American. The PhD system here is different.
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Neetdom tbqhwyl
Reading nietzsche at the moment to un-cuck my shit up
Godspeed! Literal dumb frogposter!
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>>8774312
Can you detail how your system works?
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>>8774312
I did an architecture undergrad then master of Creative Writing then back to arch. Do you want to be the one making the farts (writer) or the one sniffing the farts (intelectual?)

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What do we think of this?
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>good people
spooky
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>>8774168
>assuming there are no quotation marks or an [what we think of as] implied in a deliberately provokative title

what a spook
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>He challenges our own pre-conceived notions using the elephant-and-rider metaphor from HAPPINESS HYPOTHESIS, which puts the modules of the brain that reason (the rider) at the mercy of the larger impulsive and emotional parts (the elephant). Basically, study after study shows that we form our opinions intuitively, then work backwards to justify the opinions with reason.

Outright denigration of the virtuous and blank check for the wicked. Disgusting.

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What books are about the sidekick rather than the hero?
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The Art of the Deal
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>>8773973
The New Testament
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>>8773973
Don Quixote

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So /lit/
I feel stupid.
I mean i can't discern good from bad writing, where it changes.
Is there a way to get smart? Do you have to read a lot to get prose?
I don't know where i belong, i feel like i'm an intruder here, even though i also feel like this is home.
I am lost, please guide me...
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>>8773964
Doesn't some writing evoke strong emotions, clear ideas, and/or vivid imagery for you? That's good writing.
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>>8773969
Yes it does. But so does the bad writing.
I have the fear, that i am a pleb deep down.
Also how to get into Poems?
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>>8773978
Give an example of what you consider to be bad writing.

Try children's poems. Seriously. Dr. Seuss and Shel Silverstein for instance.

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>often times
Why do people do this? It's redundant.

Which phrases or words do you hate?
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OP
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>>8773880
>Which phrases or words do you hate?
Why do people do this?
redundant
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>>8773882
>>8773885
Cheeky bastards.

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Wondering where to start with nietzsche. inb4 start with the greeks
Also is there an article which can summarize what each person's philosophy was and a sort of timeline of succession?
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>>8773837
>where to start
http://www.theperspectivesofnietzsche.com/

> "I teach you the overman. Man is something that shall be overcome. What have you done to overcome him?
All beings so far have created something beyond themselves; and do you want to be the ebb of this great flood and even go back to the beasts rather than overcome man? What is the ape to man? A laughingstock or a painful embarrassment. And man shall be just that for the overman:...
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Seriously start with the greeks in philosophy.
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>>8773837
Nietzsche was a proponent of the start with the Greeks meme, so do that.

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How does one describe a beautiful female's back?

I mean, it is easy to describe her hair, that surrounds her head like clouds surround the moon; or her breasts, that swing like the ripe fruit of a peach tree in soft summer's wind calling for harvest. Or her hips, that seem like that of a jungle folk's idol. Her cheerfullness, which is that of a child, or her grace, which is of a saint.

But how does one describe a beautiful back? What can it even be compared to?
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>That's one hell of a fuckable back if I ever seen one
is the way to go
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>>8773813
>her hair, that surrounds her head like clouds surround the moon; or her breasts, that swing like the ripe fruit of a peach tree in soft summer's wind calling for harvest. Or her hips, that seem like that of a jungle folk's idol. Her cheerfullness, which is that of a child, or her grace, which is of a saint.
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>>8773817
>first person
Nah. Makes it too specific. I want to describe the beautiful back itself, not just any beautiful back.

How does one fuck a back anyway?

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Is he, dare I say it, our guy?
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Man do I want that nice kafka on the shore paperback
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something something in my sountry he ucks something sdomerhtyin
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>>8773806

What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I’ve been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I’m the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can...
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whats a good name like Jung or Daud?
ideally masculine and made up
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Blast HardCheese
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>>8773696
Wolfgang Wolf
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Fart Neckmeat

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Is he actually good or is it all just a lot of hot air?
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Oboy
Here we go again

Gass Gass Gass
I wish you'd stop posting Gass
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>>8773674
Not sure what this has to do with my topic.
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>>8773671
More like hot lard

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Is this book any good? What books can help increase charisma if any?
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>>8773625

Figure out what kind of person attracts your admiration. Not just superficially in their mannerisms but concretely in their view of life, their goals, their beliefs. Then emulate them, ask them what would X do in this situation.

Read their biographies and their quotes, see what makes them tick. I would avoid "self-help" books.
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>>8773625
>>>/r9k/
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>>8773651
Thanks, I'll do that.

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http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2001/07/a-readers-manifesto/302270/

Daily reminder that he's right.
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>>8773580

I don't live in America.
I'm glad the urbanite culture of lumbersexuals isn't mine to endure.
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>>8773580
tl;dr?

Can't read the article due to paywall
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>>8773593
tl;dr
>the modern dividing line between "genre fiction" and "Literrrrature witha capital L" should be removed.
>Modern "Literary fiction" generally speaking is written for an echo chamber audience of snooty , bi-coastal critics and professors
>This artificial divide has led modern "literary" authors to adopt unorthodox and artifical prose styles because their job is to sound "writerly"...
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