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When does it start getting good?
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>A screaming comes across the sky!

At that part.
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>>8213023
There's no exclamation point.
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Around the second page.

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>The original Stirnerfag
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>the Japanese Stirnerfag
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>>8212978
How was Evola a Stirnerfag
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>>8213294
It's hip to call various traditionalists 'stirnerfags' now because Stirner is associated with the left and they want to be le edgy contrarians

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>will never devise original philosophy
>pseud-level understanding of anyone past nietzsche
>still has to consult a dictionary
>can only write in bland pose suited for technical specs or didactic text
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>cant even make successful thread on 4chan
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>will only be recognized for genius that I am after death
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>alcohol will kill me before i can publish anything

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What books about sophism and , as a whole, convincing-but-flawed-logic , does /lit/ recommend ?
Pic obviously related.
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Anything written by a philosopher.
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Anything said by a politician
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Anything written or said by a human.

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Red pill me on Max Stirner /lit/.
What is a spook?
What is the core of his philosophy?
What was it Marx hated so much about him?
Where do I start with reading his work?
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>>8212290
>What is a spook?
>What is the core of his philosophy?
>Where do I start with reading his work?

read the ego and his own.

>What was it Marx hated so much about him?

read die deutsche ideologie.
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>>8212295
Got it, I'll probably post my thoughts/interpretation later.
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Not OP but do you think one can jump straight into the ego and his own and understand it?
I haven't read anything philosophy related but I happen to have this book and I'd like to give it a try.

Pic related. Artist is Bright Eyes and they help get me going. Lookin for new music, bonus points for feelsy music
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rachel's - handwriting
chopin's nocturnes
the extended version of bojack horseman
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I usually get too distracted by music to write, but a few decent tracks are

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGq-CNxQ3cM

and

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9co_sO1CKcg&list=PLToXWne2Bk-eCxq_OY9NrhxP0ylzsbuPA

and

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wnqk44kaQPE&list=PLUFUXSbkbfyA5sG3_dIudfZ_vbmyisFqk

and

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BTmVNLHRLR8&list=PL5VpQ_FZ010ol3V-l2BNVfYD_d2PPJFTX

and

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ORvR3PrQ_h8

and

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vo0w0hd4iuo
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I can't write to anything with vocals, and I tend to prefer silence.

Where music is desired or necessary (e.g. people around are distracting) generally I listen to classical (Verdi, Chopin, Bach are pretty comfy and undistracting) or modern music that is especially chill (with no lyrics).

Three artists I listen to a lot (especially when I'm writing in noisy spaces):

Max Richter
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GNFuiMZYDpQ

Vatican Shadow
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ighTUfL4KcU

Goreshit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GvbWqijSa2g

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Considering the time in which he lived, would his views be considered the "norm" at that time, or was he even worse than that?
Also, who were some notable influences for his views?
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idk why don't you do some research and use your brain
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>>8212285
Nah, I'm too lazy.
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Why are whites always drawn as idealised Greek figures?

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Maman died today.
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This is not for you.
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BIG
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But who was phone?

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>"The soul is healed by being with children."
What the fuck? Did this guy never interact with a kid in his life? They're all annoying and gross. Was he a pedophile or something?
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He actually did boast about fucking a young girl to friends.
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Emo people enjoy being in the presence of children, because their innocence shines like a light. Not everyone sees children this way. I see them like you do OP, but I also used to work in a nursing home and old people always seemed refreshed after a visit from children.
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>>8211888
>He can't appreciate a child's innocence and cherish it as an ounce of humanity in our alienating modern world

It's like you don't even have the eyes of a poet. Wasted trips.

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ITT: If you're a cultured anon, write about your travels
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I went to Japan
I enjoyed the maid cafe
It was great desu
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but im poor
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>>8211776
gtfo this thread

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When did it become so cool to hate on Ayn Rand?
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when they discovered stirner
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Shortly after her first badly written book was published
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>>8211750
Which was...?

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Hey guys, I been looking at this amazing illustrated edition of Dune.
http://www.foliosociety.com/book/DFH/dune-frank-herbert
Do you think it is worth the hefty price?
If not do you know anything similar, I saw the Barnes and Noble one, but that was dull compared to this one
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If you can afford it, absolutely. I would love to have this edition
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> Afterword by Brian Herbert


dropped
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>>8212750
yeah to be honest OP it would be worth it but this pretty much taints the whole thing

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how the hell can normies stand to read genre fiction?

you can read a tight, thought provoking 150-300 pages of literary fiction where every word feels important

or you can read a 10 book series of 700 page tiny print tomes where everything is exposition or dialogue where two of the thousands of characters argue and play mind games with each other described in excruciating detail as if the reader is too stupid to infer what's going on in a dialogue

i am genuinely impressed anyone has the attention span for this stuff, i simply cannot do it
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Thought-numbing escapism will always be popular.
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>>8210852
i'd rather stare at a wall
genre fiction requires a constant struggle against boredom
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When you don't realize sf can be literary

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This... This fucking thing!


Oh. My. God. I finally found something worth reading on amazon that dosen't suck the dry shit out of a dead donkey's rotten asshole for once,

it's like The Catcher in the Rye except good, because it isn't fucking boring. and the protag is a even bigger cunt (in a good way)
seems to be free as well, for now, so read it...

or you will have to cuck as I slap/fuck your mothers!

Fuck it, if any of you can legit stop reading past chapter 5, I'll probably post my moms address! but dad don't...
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>>8210445
>ITT: a book shill attempts to pander to the notorious 4chan /lit/erature board by cussing a lot and being arbitrarily vulgar

we do appreciate honesty and literary merit, you know. If your book is truly great you don't have to make a weak attempt at "meeting us halfway" or winning us over by fitting in with the guys.

I fuckin hate it when shills try to fondle my balls instead of just selling their shit
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>>8210445

worst shill
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Chringiest shill attempt I've ever seen on lit tbb

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Around page 104, Zizek claims that to quell descent in the 1980s, those in power pushed transcendental meditation, along with drugs and pornography, so rebels would give up.

I poked around online to try and find examples of eastern physiology being mobilized in Poland to crush dissent, to no avail.

Is he just talking out of his ass again? It'd be seriously interesting if he isn't. But given his track record on these subjects, is he just lying to me m8 ????
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>>8210411
sounds like paranoid bullshit
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>>8210411

>reading zizek looking for facts

wew lad
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>>8210411
I know for a fact that transcendental meditation was repressed in Romania in the 80s, not in the least promoted. I dint think Slavboy is paranoid though, just full of shit.

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Why are novels which are deemed as "classics" always written in a pretentious poetry-like prose? Trying to read Lolita but can barely understand the first page
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Because you are a retarded frogfaggot
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Lolita suks, don't read that bullcrap
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go away baiting frogman

>Start to read Schopenhauer
>"First Aspect: The idea subordinated to the principle of sufficient reason: The object of experience and science"

u wot m8
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Plato and Aristotle -> Descartes -> Hume -> Kant -> Schopenhauer

Start with the Greeks as always.
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>>8210084
u thought you where a focken genius m8?
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Schopenhauer is a big boy philosopher, not entirely sure where the "he hates big words" meme comes from.

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Are any of you actually any good at writing?
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>>8208507
is anyone on /o/ good at designed and manufacturing cars?
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>>8208507
Define "good" and "writing".
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>>8208507
No, but it doesn't take an engineer to appreciate a well designed machine.

When will the world recognize the genius of Nick Land?
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What, you're still blogging? Jesus Christ.
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>>8207225
>implying Nick Land would promote on such a lowbrow board.
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>>8207240
>implying Land hasn't accented to the pinnacle of his intellectual acumen to not post on such board

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>your hometown/region/state
>best writer who was born there
>recommendations

I’ll start

>Belluno, northeastern Italy
>Dino Buzzati
>The Tartar Steppe and Il colombre, a short stories collection (pic related)
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>Madrid, Spain

Cervantes
Calderón de la Barca
Leandro Fernández de Moratín
Lope de Vega
Quevedo
Francisco Umbral
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>>8203063
>noMateo Alemán
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>>8202884
>Australia
>theres fucking nothing

Dostoyevsky
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László Krasznahorkai.
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>>8195287
David DTF Wallace
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>>8195291
Dunno man. It makes me want to go join the gestapo and to do a shakedown on his entire family, and then to send them to the camps despite not finding anything.
>Vladislav the Gorgeous Hillock
I mean: what the fuck?
>>8195287
Theodor von Dostow sounds much better imho. Why did he not like the Germans so much? Can you think of one single German character of his who is not an asshat and a jerk?

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>medieval fantasy
>one character occasionally makes modern references

Does this ruin or enhance a story?
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depends
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TH White's Merlin did it well
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>>8214933
Merlin or a time traveler are the only ones who can do this. Sanderson's Hoid might well do it in books yet to be published.

ITT: Explain meta-referintial self-referece in a meta-referintial self-referecing way by referring to you self-referecing meta-reference.
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>>8214875
i am posting about meta-referintial self-referece in a meta-referintial self-referecing way by referring to you self-referecing meta-reference.

also fuck you
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>>8214894
2/10 you referenced me instead of your self-referential meta-reference
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>>8214875
>I operate in a sphere of sincerity wherein I'm capable of being "meta"
Git gud senpai. I'm so deep in ironic meta-incrementalism that the concept simply eludes me. I have no idea anymore. It's actually terrifying.

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Why did so many notable women writers die single or childless?

Was it because women with children traditionally had less time for leisurely pursuits?
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>>8214872
They were dikes.
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read a room of one's own or something
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They're all fuck ugly.

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If this book was filled with references to the Bible and Greek myths instead of 80s pop culture, it would be deemed the highest work of lit ever. That's how much of a fucking scam literature is.
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it generally takes more effort to research classic myths than to just recall from memory a culture you've already lived through
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if it wasn't written in such a cringeworthy way where it is literally just a giant list then maybe it would be better

the book also hilariously tries to shit on commercialism while masturbating over pop culture, it's the perfect book for a 15 year old fedora tipper
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>>8214839
Then it's called the Percy Jackson series

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Hey /lit/, I want to write stuff, probably short stories, but who knows what I want to write in the future.
That said, I never wrote anything in my life, except stuff that was required in school. Also, you can laugh at me, I understand, I haven't read that many books in my life, maybe about...5? It really is embarassing, I know. But sometimes, mostly late in the night, I get the urge to write something. Till now I haven't written anything, though, because I never wrote anything before and I'm afraid that it turns out to be total bullshit. I'm not an english...
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How old are you? What's your first language?
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>>8214500
26, german. I believe I know more english words than german words, though. I don't quite know how that happened but yeah.
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>>8214512
I am you.

I decided to simply write a lot first. I read some smut with the sole purpose of recreating smut under 100 pages and just grind a bit through it until writing doesn't feel much like a burden. Then I'd move on to real literature.

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What does /lit/ think of the Wall Street Journal?
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/lit/, pls
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>>8214425
main news source for me along with the FT
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I read it everyday.

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Can theoretical science be married with literary style to create a work tearing at the very fabric of our understanding?
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>>8214410
no
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>>8214410
no
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It's called Finnegans Wake.

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Tell me, how would you keep a villain from being cliche? How you you keep him/her/it from being another stereotype of the insanely happy, dark past, or 'oh so ominous' antagonist?

I'm curious, really, after reading these past few stories.
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>>8214368
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/WellIntentionedExtremist
Not that hard, actually.
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>>8214376
Like this hasn't been done to death and badly.
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Miyazaki, bro.

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How much importance do you lend the study of poetic meter?
I am in two minds: For sculpting a tone or particular rhythm you deem pertinent to what's being said it is probably important to be knowledgeable on the subject however if you are just studying a poem deep knowledge of prosody provides little more than the ability to lend articulation to the general feeling of what a poem or otherwise is impressing on you and while this is useful I see it as providing few points that are interesting or convincing enough to elicit more than a 'if you say so'.
I...
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>it's a /lit/ pretends the uneducated street thugs of Harlem are high IQ poetic geniuses episode

Saged. If you want poetry, read poetry.
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>>8214325
>it's an anon pretends to know what the fuck he's talking about comment

Honestly embarrassing. When I wrote 'I can hear it now: if you say so' it was very clearly an allusion to when I wrote it some two whole sentences before that in reference to the weakness of points derived from metrical analysis. It has absolutely nothing to do with what I think any rapper it just so happened that I was analysing a poem by Nas when I came up with a slightly more diverting...
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>>8214325
>implying Illmatic isn't a poetic masterpiece


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