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How does one outdo Tolkien's works of fantasy?
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>>8761523
World building to the extreme.
Write works by authors in the world.
Eventually make a fantasy writer in your fantasy world.
Understand that creating your own context ist the hardest hing about fantasy.
Understand the prose bar is set relatively low, but you should go at least for prose on par with a fantasy writer like Brian Catling (which won't be easy)

I want to make literary fantasy, but it's harder than regular lit just like making a cake from scratch is harder than using a box.
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by making something that isn't shit
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>>8761572
Quality post

So this caught my attention because it's getting a film next year by the director of Ex-Machina, which was about as /lit/ as a flick can get.

Premise seems good, has anyone read it and can say it's worth recommending or not ?
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>>8761448
Just fucking read it, retard
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its good read it
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>>8761460
rude

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Young poster here (25yo).
I am asking to oldfags. +50yo. Sorry to put a low treshold but doubt anyone beyond 65 still posts here.

Is there, a milestone for vital knowledge around this age?
I felt some -kind of-. Viz its hard to make friends when you get older. Since people are not that naive and out of social dogmatism,where kids are more free. They have their own of course, but lesser than ours. Now we are more aware of machinations because we are aware of our own.

This is just an example, but there is a huge gap in 10 years i have exerienced, i am not...
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>>8761441
-something similar could be a huger gap-
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>>8761441
>Is there, a milestone for vital knowledge around this age?
55 year old intellectual and mature individual reporting in. I've seen the world, talked to all people, races, and sexualities, have spent time in vastly different communities with vastly different belief systems and seen nations, empires, and local communities prosper, fall, and re-emerge.

What you need is pic related. It will put you on the right path.
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>>8761455
you sound like a redditor or an old retarded /pol/lack

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When was the last time you read Mishima?
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>>8761366
>when was the last time you read a non-white degenerate

Take a guess I'm redpilled
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On July I read The Sound of Waves. Literally a romantic slice of life anime, but that's exactly what I liked about it.
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I read the Temple of the Golden Pavilion and Confessions of a Mask earlier this year. I have a few more of his books that are in my backlog that I want to get to.

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Someone just gave me the old version of the kindle with the keyboard and all. I've never really experienced e-pubs or e-readers and the sticky only shows where to get them, not really what the best way of going about things would be.


Is calibre the recommended e-pub management software?
How do you organize files on a kindle?
Would I be able to convert my notes and outlines and such properly to the e-pub format to review them?
What are your general tips and tricks to using an e-reader effectively?
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Use Calibre because it will give you page numbers, easy convertion from epub to mobi, ebook transfer via email and other things

Your notes get stored on a .txt file that you can export to other services, like Evernote
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>>8761193
>Is calibre the recommended e-pub management software?
yes

>How do you organize files on a kindle?
i don't get this question, they books just appear in the menus as if they were smartphone apps

>Would I be able to convert my notes and outlines and such properly to the e-pub format to review them?
you can on a kindle but I dunno on the calibre reader

>What are your general...
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>>8761238
>these things are fragile, don't slam them on the ground as they are not as resistant as a cellphone

>Cellphones
>Resistant

I don't know about the older models, but the newer ones made of a hard plastic and is impossible do break their screen. Mine gets beaten regularly and doesn't have any dents

Buuuut their get scretched very easily, so buy a cheap ass cover for your, or some skin

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Is there anything that successfully refutes this?
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Going outside and making friends. Nothing within the possibilities of people who are on this site though, no.
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>>8761179
Is there anywhere I can buy this cheap? I'm only seeing 20+ dollar deals on it and that's fucking expensive for a book

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WATCH IT ZADIE
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>>8761165
Quality post
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>>8761165
I was just watching that video

I really the way he expressed himself, that Charlie Rose interview was pure gold
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now were talking

Is there a good book introduce me to philosophy as a whole? Everyone says to just start with the Greeks and work your way up but considering where I am now and how much that entails it's hard to get motivated or to just dive into that.
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>>8761039
Sophie's World
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>>8761043
>>8761043
kek

source: graduated from one of the top philosophy courses in europe
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>>8761039
"philosophy as a whole"

you're already down the wrong path sonny, pick a general area and learn about that first, then move on

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Are there any other places I can buy books cheap other than Amazon and Bookdepository?
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>>8761023
if you just mean the price of the book which is often £/€/$ 0.01 for ordinary secondhand paperbacks, no probably not
once you factor in the postage, then yes, look in your local charity shops
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>>8761023
I work in home care to wash demented folks.
Always steal a few books, they wouldn't know and if they did, they would forget.
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Thriftbooks.com usually gets free shipping if your order is over 10 or 15.ost books alone are like 2-5 bucks

I'm pretty late on this, but how do you feel about
https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/word-of-the-year/word-of-the-year-2016 ?
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>>8761015
I don't care
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>>8761029
this
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>>8761015
Incredibly stupid
No one but journalists use this term in articles in which they announce it is a new term. It has no real conceptual value

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Is there any modern (read: 1700 and onwards) literature that depicts the rises, falls, and changes in society and culture in a similar way to Thomas Cole's masterpiece The Course of Empire (pic related)? Thank you
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>modern
>1700 and onwards
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>>8760874

>t.american

Try Gibbon's Decline and Fall and Burckhardt's Civilization of the Renaissance, OP
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>>8760874

Modern era began in 1492 famalam

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wtf i hate books now!
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>>8760708
OMG IM SO OUTRAGED

WE NEED MORE PEOPLE IN HERE

GET IN HERE AND ENGAGE IN A CIRCLEJERK

MOBILIZE THE MASSES: SOMEONE GO TO REDDIT, ANOTHER TO FACEBOOK, AND ANOTHER TO TWITTER, AND FIND THINGS WE CAN GET OUTRAGED ABOUT AND POST IT HERE SO WE CAN VALIDATE EACH OTHER AND CONSTITUTE OUR IDEALIZED SELF-IMAGE
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>>8760723
>its OK when fucking retards like people in OPs pic engage in furious circle jerking to the service of false nonsense
>if we call it out, were no better than them!!! We're actually the wrong people, guys!!!!

Stop
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>>8760808
>yfw he did

>There’s no use in my trying to tell you what they were like, because the awful, the blasphemous horror, and the unbelievable loathsomeness and moral foetor came from simple touches quite beyond the power of words to classify.
Bravo Lovecraft
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>>8760668
What a hack
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>>8760668
>>8760674
thread confirmed for absolute zero taste
shut it down
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Try writing a paragraph of erotica like Lovecraft writes horror.

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>Shakespeare wrote 37 plays and five poetry collections, writing a total of 17,677 unique words. Around 10 percent of the words he used were entirely of his own invention.
Who gave this fucker a license to word invention? How did he get away with it?
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>>8760611
First post, best post :^)
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>>8760611
>tfw to smart to only use words that other people thereput
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>>8760611
Shakes made it work.
He invented words where they needed to be that served linguistic purpose, that's why theyre still used today. Like "assassin".
Joyce on the other hand just wanked for prose points

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Oh, God, this is going to sound like a typical /lit/ response, but I find AdB quite insufferable: pretty much every bit of his output I've ever encountered has left me with the impression of irritating triteness masquerading as depth.

I'd really be interested to hear from anybody who finds him interesting, insightful, worthwhile, etc. Because personally, I've just never been able to see it.
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>>8760596
De Botton, was for me, a very light intro into philosophy when I was younger, and actually inspired me to read the philosphers he talks about in the book.

>>8762359
However, the more I grew-up the more I became aware of what you said. He masquerades the lack of worthwhile content with overly decriptive and weird examples.

Basically it's extremely bias and diluted philosophy for dummies. But could be helpful when starting out.
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Don't (ever) waste your time, with philosophy: go straight to the source text

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So what made him "go continental"?
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>>8760584

His massive intellect.
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my diary desu
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readin stuff like nietzsche and goethe and schopenhauer

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What book will make me want to call my parents? "They don't want to bother you, call them first. You'll regret it when they die." No words no matter how true can help me bear just ten minutes of the half-sincere, half-guilt-ridden small talk.
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>>8760546
Know that feel. Fortress of Solitude - Jonathan Lethem. While the protagonist parents only play a big role in the first half of the novel I couldn't help but call them after reading this.
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>>8760546
I love those rural town/futurism juxtaposition artworks

anyhow Crime and Punishment may give you mom feels.

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Has /lit/ read this? If so what did you think of it?
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There are better self-loathing books out there and with better prose and a non-meme covers
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>>8761361
For example?
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>>8761383
Mein Tagebuch by Ursprüngliches Plakat fagot

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>tfw when you unironically start a battle rap thread on /lit/

So this is something I've been following on and off for a few years, and I wondered if anons here would get a kick out of it. Battling may not be destined for the Western Canon, but there is definitely something going on and there is nothing quite like seeing a room full of people lose their shit over a metaphor.

So here are some battles /lit/ might find interesting, b/c metaphor and wordplay are alive and well. And even if it's not to your tastes, it's pretty...
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>>8760501
>fucking hell tfw can't tfw. everytime argbarglfarglfaflgr
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>>8760501
the only rapper worth a damn now a days is Saul Williams.
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>>8760501
>there is nothing quite like seeing a room full of people lose their shit over a metaphor
I unironically lose my shit over dank allegory

>I'm off the chain like broke nunchucks
got damn

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What do you think about it my dear /lit/?
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It is good. The final section is the weakest. I like part one best.
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I've gotten past the airborne toxic event, and now I feel like things have kind have fizzled out. I'll keep reading though.
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i like it a lot. its funny

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This guy really blew up this week. Are there any good books on the alt-right?

inb4 Mein Kampf
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Since they are fact-averse and stupidly authoritarian – No, not really.
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is that chuck tingle? i saw he got a write up the other day in everyone's favorite fake news source: the new york times
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>>8760417
There's no such thing as the "alt-right" its a journalist buzzword. What you want is a book on the nature of Fascism
I recommend this as a starter

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If holiness means chastity and all believers should aspire to holiness, does this mean that Christianity is antinatalist?
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>>8760392
>t. worthless virgin

>>>/r9k/
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Catholic monks did not aspire for all men to be chaste nor did they condemn sex in general
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>>8760392
There have actually been various sects who believed this and acted on it, the cathars are a good example, but there have been more recent ones.

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What was his problem?
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>>8760389

autism and gay
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depression
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did u see a gay roman statue from his personal collection was up for auction a couple months ago at christies? usually when u look at the "provenance" section of the brochure it's just like "previous owner: some rich jewish guy no one heard of", but when i saw ludwig wittgenstein i was oh shit i know that nigga!

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How to become a writer?
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Write, you dumb fuck.
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Write a short story
Then rewrtite again anda again and gain, each time using a different technique and words
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>Write
>Read it, realize it's shit
>Repeat until satisfied.

>tfw just finished reading The Western Canon
but seriously, what the fuck is his problem?
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>>8760244

He has to live with that droopy face
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>>8760244
>One of my principal memories is that I and my friends, just to survive, had constantly to fight street battles with neighborhood Irish toughs, some of whom were very much under the influence of a sort of Irish-American Nazi organization called the Silver Shirts. This was back in the 1930s. We were on the verge of an Irish neighborhood over there in the East Bronx. We lived in a Jewish neighborhood. On our border, somewhere around Southern Boulevard, an Irish neighborhood began, and they would...
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EVWiwd0P0c0
I don't know why /lit worships this idiot, Charlie Rose completely obliterated this crusty fool without even trying
>muh old things, not at all like the new things

Hey lit!
Aestheticism in art is "what aesthetic delights, is good, what aesthetic disgusts, is bad"

How do you go about this with out just repeating "hur cause i like it its good", how do you actually support aestheticism in art from an non-subjective level where you can actually write a convincing argument about it?

how do you explain this high subjective "aesthetic delight"

>no memes pls
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>>8760196
>good and bad

spooky
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>>8760200
no memezzz plz
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either I am retarded for not getting it or this "aestheticism" is a joke and I was retarded enough to believe it.

:/

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Describe a portion of your fictional world's mythology, make papa Tolkien proud.

Lovecraftheads also weclome.
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there are two opposing forces.

the first disguises itself as an intelligence agency based in Brussels. very few people know that about one-third of the operatives are basic telepaths, or that the man who runs this agency has the psychic ability to convince people to do what he tells them to. he is, of course, the richest and most powerful man on Earth, but is a borderline sociopath, because he has never been denied anything he wants.

the second force is less powerful, more amorphous, and is largely represented by a loose "Cell network" of brilliant researchers...
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>>8760176
Not sure if this counts as mythology, but one of my stories is about a hermit who tries to find the perfect place to live by looking for the brightest spot in the sky. His thinking is that since city lights block out the stars, wherever you can see the stars the brightest must be the most isolated in the world. But its more of his own mystical belief than an actual reality in the story.

Still trying to make it work right tho
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>lovecraftheads also welcome
thanks anon.

there are several different "horizons" or planes of existence. earth's horizon's beginning is yet unknown. all that populate the earth are colossal beings the size of mountains. for a time these beings were all that populated earth. until a being humanity calls "mother" gave birth to 6 winged humans. these would become the gods that humanity would pray to for thousands of years to come. they are also thought...
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How do you deal with the fact that books are for nerds?

I'm an avid reader and 27. This fall I held a girls hand for the first time. When she asked what my hobbies are I said I liked books and she withdrew her hand from my sweaty palms.
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>>8759986
Kys, virgin.
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Must be an American thing
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>tfw reading pic related and is not hard at all
>tfw philosophy erudite
Im going for PotS next boiiii
who /ubermensch/ here?
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>>8759946
explain how temporality and historicity are related
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>>8759946
>übermensch
>needs validation from strangers online
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>>8759946
reading is for losers and nerds, we all know and accept that.

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What are some things you've learned exclusively through reading fiction?
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>>8759928
>reading fiction to 'learn'
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>>8759928
That a tanner gets the name of his profession from his use of tannic acid.
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Greek Gods are assholes


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