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What kind of genre or themes do you like to write about and why do you enjoy writing about them?

What do you seek to achieve in your writing?
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bluntness. it gets past the assholes, triggers the naysayers and lands with a true audience.

but, to answer your stupid question, to "write about" a genre or theme would be an essay, which is what you didn't mean at all, when you meant fiction
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>>8755759
Can you expand on "bluntness"?
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>>8755850
fuck you

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Hey you guys on /lit/

So I have this hymnal from 1751 that is written in Danish/Norwegian. The cool thing about is that it have handwritten notes from that time on the inside cover.

So the question is can anyone here translate it?
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>>8755731
>it have
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I can read both danish and norwegian but the cursive is too hardcore tbqh.
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>>8755749
Yeah I am having the same problem as well. I can understand some words but cant get the whole story.

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So what's the opinion on translations?
I've mostly read european literature, where I don't have the option of reading it in the original language. When it comes to works written in english however, I feel like I should read the original. But my reading comprehension and vocabulary are obviously better in my native language, so reading originals will probably be harder/more tiresome.
Does Joyce, Hemingway etc translate well? Should I just do the originals?
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>daring to even think about reading Joyce in translation
you have got to be kidding.
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I read it in the original language even if I don't know it
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>>8755705
This.
>reading translations
is largely just meme, but Joyce can't be translated.
>>8755738
kekkek

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>tfw so many classics to read
>tfw not enough time to read them all
>tfw lose hope and dont read at all

does anyone know this feel?
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>>8755622
not with classics. i also dont wear a pick mickey mouse onsey. alright.
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>>8755622
You are the complete object of the performance society. Your self-exploitation leads to your blockade.

Uncuck yourself with philosophy before you return to fiction. I recommend Byung-Chul Han.
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>>8755622
>>tfw so many classics to read
Enjoy reading stuff from an age when collective knowledge was still evolving towards the diversity of today.

I've wasted so much time reading. All these years. All because I'm basically an idiot.

I'm 23 years old and I just started reading books that I actually enjoy and give a shit about. Books that help me enjoy other books and media. Books that are genuine entertainment. I started reading a lot when I was 15 or 16 and I read these big dick classics. When I was 17 I read Brothers Karamazov. I've read Sound and the Fury, War and Peace, all of Oliver Wilde's stuff, all the recommended classics really. Then I got into philosophy and read Metaphysics...
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my diary desu
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>I read one fucking Phillip K Dick, followed by a little Vonnegut, now I'm on Cormac, and holy shit I've never enjoyed reading so much in my life. I'm reading all the time.

>I read one fucking Phillip K Dick, followed by a little Vonnegut, now I'm on Cormac, and holy shit I've never enjoyed reading so much in my life. I'm reading all the time.

DROPPED.
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I genuinely wonder why Vonnegut and McCarthy are among the first authors people who want to get 'serious' about literature start with. Not berating you OP, just curious why it is so, so common

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How do I turn the word messiah into an adjective or adverb?

Messiac?
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>>8755397
Messiahnic
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With a dictionary you stupid fuck. Or, you know, fucking GOOGLE. Actually don't bother with either, just kill yourself.
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Messianic

Come on man the dictionary is a thing

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Does anyone know what going on here?
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Ever heard of reprints?
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>>8755331
So is it actually happening?
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>230.

It might as well be never.

At least I can finally buy this massive meme and see if it really is that good.

I once read that an author was working on a book and a ranchhand accidentally threw it into a fire. The author, distraught, got drunk and stayed up all night rewriting it. For some reason I thought it was Faulkner writing "As I Lay Dying". Has anyone else heard this tall tale? Who was it and what did they write?
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I'm pretty sure As I Lay Dying was written over the course of two months when Faulkner got back from his job at a steel mill or something
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>>8755224
I think someone on lit posted about this story...it might have been Steinbeck writing OMAM...but the story was basically that the novel was destroyed and they got drunk and rewrote the whole thing overnight. Might have been hemingway or conrad? Maybe Twain?
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>>8755221
That was Kafka. His manuscripts were partially saved from the flames by his best friend, Max Brot.
>>8755224
Most of his oeuvre was written late at night, after working all day as a fabric salesman and tending for his bedridden father, to whom he was tremendously attached.

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Has anybody here read Gravity's Rainbow? I just got it off hold from the library and I'm a little apprehensive about starting. Recommendation's on things to read up on before I start? How did you guys find reading it for the first time?
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You just dive in and read it. Like any other book.

Don't worry too much about making sense of all of it, or you'll never finish it.
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>>8754921
you'll end up re-reading it so just enjoy it for the aesthetic the first time around. Basically every hard concept in the book has something to do with entropy or derivative of that in some way so here's your cheat code if you needed one
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>>8754947
I was thinking of reading it solo the first time and then rereading it using a guide. Do you think annotations are helpful at all?

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I've got about 100 pages left and I'm not sure I can be fucked reading them. I thoroughly enjoyed the first ~200 pages, and I can see exactly why this is a classic, and it's /interesting/ but no longer /entertaining/.

Worth finishing? It's probably only 2 hours max at my reading pace to get there.
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Yeah Levin reaches the culmination of the thoughts and feelings that he experiences throughout the book, I felt the same way OP but the ending is satisfying.
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>>8754952
Alright that gives me some hope, guess I'll put in the effort.

>Book is called Anna Karenina
>60%+ of it is about Levin
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i think todays big problem is exactly that
reading is feeding your soul
entertainment is feeding it with burgers

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Going on a long road trip by myself, need some audiobooks to listen to while I drive.

I've already done LOTR, ASOIAF, The Dark Tower, and all of David Sedaris' books.

I'm looking for adventure stories, fantasy, and nice world building. Something that has at least 20 hours of content in the series, or several recommendations to fill the time.
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Civil Procedure (Law School Legends Audio Series CD): Richard Freer
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The Malazan Book of the Fallen. The ten books together is nearly 400 hours, so you should be good for years
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>>8754908
It's funny to me how people who go on long roadtrips always prepare for things to do underway, but they never actually do it, or half. So not recommending you anything. You ain't gonna listen to shit, son.

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what does donald trump read? (or perhaps a more appropriate question is: does donald trump read?)
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>>8754883
He doesn't sound like he's read much.
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>>8754883
The stock quotes.
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>>8754883
You can Google this for more reliable details. At some point during the campaign someone asked him what he'd been reading and after much prodding he finally came up with All Quiet on the Western Front. Then someone asked him again like months later and he said the same thing. I think he might have named All Quiet on the Western Front as his favorite book on yet another occasion also.

Not only can Trump not read, he can't even lie about reading.

People who have spent time with him have gone...
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Let's flesh out this novel idea I had when I was 14.

the timer or 00:00:

>in the future, a man who hates his life lives in a city where a giant clock is ticking on the wall. Nobody knows who put the clock there, but when the man meets some old man who tells him what to do, he does it and the clock immediately turns into a timer...and who knows what happens when the timer reaches 00:00?

I'm thinking the city revolves around the clock. It almost seems to be religious.

>when the man meets...
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>>8754855
The ending, after much panic and suspense, finally getting everyones attention and proving that something will happen, when it reaches 00:00 it just flips over to 9999:9999 (whatever), and/or right before it hits 00, the batteries die... and then they put new batteries in, and then it hits 00. or a large revolutionary motif starts with a side not wanting to put in new batteries, and a side wanting too,

The religious relation, could be similar to 4chan, dubs, trips etc. in that certain numerical orientations...
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>>8754855
The old man, might be the son/or grandson, of the man who made the clock.

or the son of a founding member of the temple of the religion, or high political figure,

How the mc could have become curious about the clock, meet an outside on the edge of town, who warns of hearing a fable or story about this village, and needed to see for himself, first time an outside was met maybe?

maybe then he goes looking to speak to high preists and finds the old man, or goes behind the building wall where the...
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>>8754855

Either when it hits 0, nothing happens, or something happens.

aliens land on earth.

massive earth quake and atlantis rises.

buildings take off as space ships.

the city is surrounded by warrior hordes.

there is a hostile mutiny takeover.

the protagonist wakes up, as the 00 represents

the alarm clock and he was dreaming.

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>i never subvocalize except when i read texts like the iliad and socratic dialogues, in which case i very deliberately subvocalize each person's line with VA's voices from elder scrolls

Am i an autism?
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>>8754740
Yes.
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>It's you! The hero of Kvatch!
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>>8754748
KEK

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Idealism is ahistorical and reactionary.
Prove me wrong
protip, you can't.
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>>8754699
Define Idealism.

What is not idealism?
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>>8754753
Historical idealism. The claim that ideas and not material conditions steer the development of history.
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>>8754753
Idealism is thinking this thread was worth replying to.

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>tfw accepted for publication
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Maybe this thread is just fishing for (You)s, but if you actually did it, and by "publication" you don't mean "vanity press/worthless shithouse run by a guy in a hawaiian shirt", then congratulations m8.
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>>8754725
X2
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>>8754631
THAT'S MAH LIL NIGGA!!
GOOD ON YA SCROW!!

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Why do people buy used books? The local bookstores that I've been to have decent selections but the books have worn out spines or ugly covers. My personal library is going to be pretty.
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>>8754561
Because I don't mind them.
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My used book store has beautiful leatherbound and hardbound books in addition to nicely maintained paperbacks. There are a lot of books in shit condition but that's not really a reason not to go to a used book store, it is a reason to not buy a shit book
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>>8754561
you know some people take care of their books, right? plus some used books are just as fresh as retail, just that they've been bought and never used or read.

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Has anyone read it? What's it like?
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i'm bumping this
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>>8756363
i ordered it already, so if no one responds i'll at least make a thread in a month
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I've got s copy but haven't done a thorough enough read to compare to the Cantos. If I remember correctly it was less dense.

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hey, /lit/. i need some serious suggestions. i have always been a poet, and haven't read anything in years. i constantly write all day, everyday, but have never looked for inspiration in other writers.
i am interested in romanticized works of grit and love.
i am also interested in surrealist literature.

i just want to be able to find writers who have written about similar topics/genre as i do. i consider myself a romantic poet, but also really enjoy writing an occasional mind warping reality.

please help me! here is a sample piece can anyone offer...
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>>8754533
maybe if you capitalized your fucking letters I would read your shit
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>>8754557
I'm sorry. Please.
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>>8754533
It is fucking garbage.

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>tfw not feel like reading at all
this sucks, is nice and quiet here, perfect ambient for reading
does this happen to you sometimes, /lit/?
What do you do in these cases?
I think Im going to draw and listen to music.
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>>8754527
>being this pathetic
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>>8754548
:(
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Yes, it happens to me every few months, where I have to take at least a 1 week break. I panic and worry that I'll suddenly lose all interest in reading, then it suddenly comes back and I'm good to go.

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I put a bunch of pirated epubs in my Kobo's folder for the books but I can't see them.

What did I do wrong?
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Use Calibre
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>>8754464
but its a kobo
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>>8754472

So? You're doing something wrong and Calibre is idiotproof.

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Is Adam Trask the biggest cuck in the history of literature?
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>>8754338
lol you said 'cuck', hahaha!

I bet he wants a black man to mount his wife while he watches heeheeheheh :DD
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>>8754343

you do what you have to do to get non-James Joyce/Pynchon/DFW threads going
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>>8754352
East of Eden is a great book. If you liked it, why don't you create a thread with something more interesting than 'le epic cuck posting'?

What are /lit/ thoughts on this?
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>>8754336
>reading tranlations
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>>8754356
I thought the attack on leftism in the book was interesting too.
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>>8754365
Let's face it, they're simply immature of mind compared to us

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Now that the dust has settled, was Stoner prejudiced against the disabled?

I can understand if he was. I once threw away a perfectly good apple simply because the clerk who handled and bagged it was retarded
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DUDE
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>>8754251
no
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>>8754251

lol sounds like youre projecting.

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hey english is not my first language and i know it needs eddting but tell me what you think of the story its basted on actual events http://pastebin.com/CXNkFSVh
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why do you need a fully loaded gun to kill yourself? You a big fat fuck?
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>>8754259
not fat, skny as faqk m8 if you read it
your proably armenian
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>>8754249
why don't you put it through a spell check for starters... IQ of 131 and still haven't learned English aka the easiest language to learn that ever existed.
Frankly what you have written pretty much is quite daily and mundane. Not that it isn't believable, believable and relatable it is: it's just painful to read: A Muslim not waiting until the dozenth row to start mumbling about his religion, what's new here.
Who wants to read about the next ghetto rat violent kid, who's so full of himself he thinks he's not just smart and just but also pious and deserves to be treated well.

It's total crap.

KYS

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This shit is boring and not even that well written compared to Joyce, Proust or Woolf.

>hurr durr ur a brainlet
I have a tested IQ of 155 and am smarter than you.
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>>8754193
Kill yourself

>>>/r/books
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>>8754193
>the book Woolf based her entire career around channeling isn't that well written, but Woolf is!
George Eliots\'s a genius, man. Dickens knew it. Woolf knew it. The Queen knew it. And if you would take the time to know it for yourself, you'll honestly be a better person.
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>>8754193
yeah, it was pretty fucking boring. i mean the first page talks about the most mundane shit i've ever read. not even an attempt at being remotely fascinating. same with AK, fucking soap opera epics akin to the young and the restless being passed off as though they're the finest novels in existence, while simultaneously shitting on masculinity and adventure and intrigue and genuine cleverness. but no, i gotta read about mr. douchington's well bred mannerisms and how best to place a candle on a fucking table for 600 hours because some stumpfuck pleb on /lit/ thinks shit like that is remotely worthwhile and simpleton pretentious faggot shite.

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What did he mean by this?
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>the soul purpose

I genuinely can't tell if that's intentional.
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>>8754169
Stop posting twitter and facebook posts that trigger you

Take that shit to
>>>/r9k/
>>>/pol/

sage and report
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>>8754183
Fuck you, this is important to lit

For example, this post really could have been one sentence.
>Why did he feel the need to make it into 4?

And there are a few semantics questions here.
>What does it mean that chakras don't exist?
>How can they not exist while also being something by a different name serving a different function entirely? (i.e. chakras actually being thought forms created for the "soul...
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When the sun shines a dark scarlet hue
and the children dance their songs in the cool embrace of the evening rain
I sit at a window of old pained glass and watch them with hope of their soon return
For the cold of night does not give leave
Not to man nor beast nor child at play.
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>>8754167
def cozyish, 4.5/5 blankets fluffed
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>>8754167
>54167▶
>When the sun shines a dark scarlet hue
>and the children dance their songs in the cool embrace of the evening rain
>I sit at a window of old pained glass and watch them with hope of their soon return
>For the cold of night does not give leave
>Not to man nor beast nor child at play.

Lol waht the fuck is this...
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>>8754332
just letting off steam. I know it's not very good or even structured properly. Thx anyway.

what is the funniest book you've ever read?
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The Three Musketeers.
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my diary desu
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>>8754274
I don't get it?

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What is /lit/'s opinion on Oprah and her book club? I saw someone suggest picking up the Faulkner book set from her book club, but I don't know how I feel about owning something that says Oprah Book Club all over it.
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>>8754030
I dislike the form of literary appreciation that begins and ends with how well you identify with the characters and what your feels are.

On the other hand, she introduced a lot of people to some good books, it would be wrong to knock it too hard.
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>>8754030
There are some good suggestions and some poor ones.
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I wouldn't read most most of her choices, but at the end of the day it's just books she likes, nothing I feel strong about.


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