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epubs/mobis or pdfs?
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>>8744930
kys, you fucking retard.
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>>8744935
Excuse me?
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>>8744930
Who the fuck cares? kys fag

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>its been 2 days since i sent my story, and still no answer
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Dude, it can take months.

Go write another and quit being melodramatic fag.
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>>8744919
This.

You'd be lucky if you heard back this year. But, a rejection now isn't better than a rejection in the new year, so look up, OP.
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>post story on critique thread
>still not part of western canon
Didn't expect to take this long

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Which book contains the greatest illustrations?
My picks would be:
Dinotopia
Or any book by Graeme Base Animalia / The Eleventh Hour.
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Wow, only male lions?

I guess women don't read, is that it?
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>>8744890
Male lions sleep more than lady lions, and are thus "lazy". Female lions also sometimes have a mane, so check the ol privilege cism80.

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>walk into the store
>see this
what do
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>>8744858

Lmao I wanna see more.
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>>8744858

Henry Flower hahahaha

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>he thinks Dostoyevsky is good, meaningful literature
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>>8744791
But I don't think that OP
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>>8744797
Tolstoy is miles ahead of Dostoyevsky, only reason he isn't as popular is because Russians banned his books, while pushing Dostoyevsky's very mediocre literature.
The best way to spot a fool is to find out that he likes Dostoyevsky
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>>8744791
Why isn't it?

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I must write an epic tale (in the style of Homer and Virgil) on any character of my choice, and I tought of Frodo Baggins, since I love The lord of the Rings. Any ideas how to make this hobbit more epic?
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There were no immortal assholes sulking handsomely, IRRC
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>>8744734

reddit.com/r/books
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>>8744734
You just want to talk about the eagles dont you?

Fine. What if the Eagles had just taken them to Sauron?

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Hey /lit/, I'm interested in learning about the U.S. Founding Fathers. Specifically, I'm interested in understanding the major players' political views and how their disagreements and ultimate collaboration resulted in the Constitution and the perfect system of governance that we have today.

What biographies/autobiographies/histories would you recommend?
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Read the Federalist papers and the Anti-federalist papers
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>>8744696
>the perfect system of governance that we have today.
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>>8744696
>the perfect system of governance that we have today
Also hamilton is shit. SHIIIT.

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How do you write compelling dialogue?
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>>8744660
Have the smart characters puppet all your opinions and have the dumb characters provide over emotional and fallacious attempts to disagree with them
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>>8744660
i think about what kind of far flung melodramatic dialogue people would have in their heads or wish they would have with people

realistic dialogue is the worst for fiction. filler words constitute like actually 40% of most peoples spoken words (uh, um, like, you know, whatever, etc) and most people repeat themselves if not verbatim than close to it at least once, sometimes three times. people also stop in the middle of sentences, get interrupted and get derailed.

i understand my audience wants to escape...
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Compelling dialogue happens every day and all around you.

Make conversation your study. Savor each sentence and pay attention to cadences, intonations, and word choices. Become an eavesdropper. Pay attention to how people speak and for what reasons. Then mimic it.

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What are some books that capture the same mood as this film? Basically, I want something vaporwavey, depicting consumerism in a comfy way.
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>>8744641
Homo Zapiens
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American Pyscho
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>>8744641
Well, what is it?

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/lit/core is too pretentious and difficult.

Post low IQ core here
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>>8744530
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>>8744530
The Bible desu ;)
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I'd post myself if I could

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Tell me /lit/;

Is the passage in pic related an example of good or bad writing?
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Yes, it is fine.

It isn't purple first of all.

Do I get a prize?
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Straightforward, readable prose. Good writing.
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>>8744491
It's typical, and makes me want to go dig out a few red pencils from the 1980s strata of clutter in my library and start slashing away. My compulsive involuntary reaction to nearly every over-stuffed paragraph she put in that over-wrought screed.

First, slash all the adverbs.

Those "remarks ... she could not believe" demand an example which goes begging.

It's a fine enough evocation of the girl's POV, that of being surrounded by encoded language of which she is the target,...
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Hey /lit/, I want to buy an ereader. I have a kobo glo but it broke, so I was wondering if any of you guys could recommend an ereader to me. I was thinking about going kobo again, but I don't know what model, but I also good go nook or kindle, but I want to be able to use my old kobo library.

>inb4 read paper books
I live in a small texas town, my library sucks, and I don't have enough money to buy books every week, and I hate reading on the computer. I like the e-ink, it feels like I am looking at paper, and with ereaders I...
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>>8744457

I own a paperwhite

Does the job
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>>8744457
The Kindle paperwhite is the best of them. It's $99, but the amount of money you'll save by downloading cheap e-books or pirating entire libraries worth makes it a smart buy.
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>>8744528
>>8744479
Alright, Thanks. I like the price tag, but do epubs work on it? If not, what are some good sites to pirate books for it.

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Which books is /lit/ planning on buying this Black Friday?
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>>8744452
>buying books
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>>8744452

>buying books

This makes no fucking sense to me

How are you so insular that you come to /lit/, but you have no idea how to download books?
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>>8744476
I write in the margins, and don't like the electronic bullshit.

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What books will convince me there's a God?
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The book of love. Its long and boring though.
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>>8744356

Gospel of Judas
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>>8744356
infinite jest

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Thoughts on this guy /lit/?
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>>8744337
Highschool girl: The philosopher.
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>>8744337
He didn't really write, he merely typed
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>>8744337
He's one of the greatest American writers of all time.
>>8744735
>philosopher
Have you read him? Kerouac is not a philosopher.

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For years and years now, I've only been interested in reading nonfiction.

Is there something wrong with me?
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Maybe you have that condition where you struggle to visualise. I watched something once about people with it. They still read books but only non fiction.

Do you have difficulty imagining scenes in your head?
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>>8744266
Kind of, actually, yeah. Do you remember what it's called?

My background is in music and film, so I mostly get narrative experiences from those spheres rather than literature. That's not to say that I'm disinterested in books - I want to enjoy literature because I know it has so much to offer - but I really struggle to get into fiction. I become totally bored after the first couple of pages, which is odd, because if I'm interested in a subject I could easily read two or three nonfiction books on it.
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>>8744363
I found the article
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-34039054
Aphantasia.

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Who decides what's rational and what isn't in the abstract world
When is a generalization fair, when is it fair to dismiss a generalization
How do I get as many people (non idiots) as possible to agree with me rationally on something and see things the way I do without resorting to sophistry/trumpisms

And what's the best book I can read on this type of meta stuff?

namedropping welcome
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>>8744240

Zizek and Aristotle
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>>8744240
>How do I get as many people (non idiots) as possible to agree with me rationally on something and see things the way I do without resorting to sophistry/trumpisms
Be attractive and charismatic
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>>8744240
I think if a generalisation is, for the most part, true, then it's fair, but I don't think a generalisation can be COMPLETELY true so in most cases can be dismissed. I'm from /k/, so I find it easiest to explain things by using firearms.

>"The AK is very reliable."
This is a fair and accurate generalisation.

>"The AK never jams."
While malfunctions in an AK are practically so rare that you might feel like...
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"I saw the Emperor – this world-spirit – riding out of the city on reconnaissance. It is indeed a wonderful sensation to see such an individual, who, concentrated here at a single point, astride a horse, reaches out over the world and masters it ... this extraordinary man, whom it is impossible not to admire"

Hegel wrote this about Napoleon after he watched him enter Jena follwing his victory over Prussia.

So /lit/, which individual embodies the zeitgeist of today? Trump? Farage? Kim Kardashian? Kanye West? Someone else?
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>>8744224
Me desu
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>>8744229
I dislike you, current zeitgeist.
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>>8744233
Yeah sorry, I didn't choose it, I just encapsulate it

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When it comes to Ingsoc, nobody thoughtwise Ingsoc better than me. I have doubleplus good Ingsoc. Doubleplus bellyfeel good. But look folks, the Eurasians have been definitely plusthinkwised our party members at warfare. It's doubleplus ungood. When Eurasia sends its people, they're not sending their best. They're sending people that have lots of problems, and they're bringing those problems to us. They're bringing oldthink. They're bringing parasites. They're rapists. And some, I assume, are good people. We need to build a wall. Don't...
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>>8744126
>We're going to make Oceania plusgreat again.
Just reported this unperson to miniluv for crimethink. Oceania is and alway has been doubleplusgreat.
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>>8744126
doubleplus unironic doubletimes upboat
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upvoted!

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what does /lit/ think of harper lee?
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She got fucked over by her lawyer. Also, TKAM was great but I understand not everyone can relate to the book.

Anyone read Go set a Watchman?
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Truman Capote's a pretty good writer.
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>>8744120
Thank you, mate.

END OF '16 - 2017 READING LIST

DEC: The Fall, Notes from the Underground
JAN: The Iliad, The Odyssey
FEB: The Castle, Journey to the End of the Night
MAR: Absalom, Absalom!, Invisible Man
APR: Sabbath's Theater
MAY: No Longer Human, Stoner
JUN: The Idiot
JUL: The Gulag Archipelago
AUG: Civilization and its Discontents, The Archetypes and The Collective Unconscious
SEP: Suttree
OCT: Hamlet
NOV: The Aeneid
DEC: Moby-Dick

A-am I gonna make it?
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>>8744107
Congratulations you have read many books this year.
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>Two books per month
>Some months one book
O-o-ok.
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>>8744107
>Civilization and its Discontents
>The Archetypes and The Collective Unconscious
Which one was the best? Why?

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Has anyone explained why life is so boring?
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>>8744017

Schopenhauer i think
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>>8744017
Whats less boring than life?
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>>8744242
Death

What are some must read philosophy books?
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Der Einzige und sein Eigentum
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start with the greeks
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The Ego and Its Own by Johann Kaspar Schmidt

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Why are writers so obsessed with the classics? At some point, shouldn't we stop looking backwards?

I really hate it when I read some contemporary poet or novelist and they try really hard to imitate works that are hundreds of years old. Nobody can get good at writing by pasting together ideas from old as fuck literature. No writers seem to truly give a shit about the world we live in now.
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>>8743975

i'll bite. the ideas we take for granted weren't always so 'obvious' to us. they had to be developed by this classical writers. isn't it interesting to you to understand how the psychic landscape of humanity has changed over time? wouldn't that lend a deeper understanding of *us*? what is intrinsic and what is cultural to humanity?

i empathize with the fact that their writings are hard, and i haven't even read the actual writings. i'm basically talking out of my ass....
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>>8743975
Are you stupid? you can't even pretend to understand English literature with having read a good percentage of the "classics".
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>>8743975
>At some point, shouldn't we stop looking backwards?

Only way to look forward is by looking back

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What are some good genre fiction books that are set after the apocalypse has happened, and far enough into the future for civillization to recuperate? A place where humanity survives, thrives even, but is nowhere near the level that they were before the apocalypse. Things like scavenging and raiding playing a smaller role next to subsistence farming and such.
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>>8743951
fuck off to /r/books self-inserting LARP nerd
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>>8743951
hey generation kill, one of my fav. series of all time.
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>>8743956
????

kys

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Were the Laputan men in Gulliver's Travels the original cucks?
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What is with the current obsession of cuckoldry in the west?
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>>8743919
The deeply unsettling realization that any white man in the world could have run against Obama in 2008 and 2012, and would still have lost. Because it's 2016 and this is who we are.

The reason we didn't have Mrs. My Turn or Tokeno Cruzio this year is because middle class white men are tired of being marginalized, or to put it crudely, cucked.
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>>8743919
It's not a new thing. Swift was a Tory, and the Laputans are thought to be an allegory for the Whigs.

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Isn't poetry merely a fetishization of language?
A writer uses language to express the beauty of thought
A poet uses language to express the beauty of language
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Why do pseuds love the word "fetishize" so much?
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>>8743854
Kind of
Not really

No
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>>8743857
(golf claps)

>>8743854
Poetry is ultimately art. Art is a medium of expression. Skillful art expresses skillfully. Nothing more to it.

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So. I have a family background that would make Freud's eyes pop out of his head.
(No, I won't be giving details. But even the bare outline of public events would stir up interest.)

How do I prevent Freudians from dragging my literary work back to my childhood?
I write in the first person, so they will be eager to snout around my early years.
I'll be using a pen name, for a start, but what other measures can I take?
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>>8743832
You're being defensive. Nothing gets more attraction from Freudians than being defensive.
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>>8743832
If you care what other people do with your work once it is done, don't publish it.

So best advice is grow thicker skin, and focus on what you are doing, not what you have done.
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Interesting like west Virginia or like long island?

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Does anyone know a book that's also about aestheticism?
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Portrait of the artist as a young man
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>>8744000
Thank you.
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>>8743827
A rebours by Huysmans is pretty damn aesthetic.
Legend has it that this was actually the book that inspired Wilde and the one Lord Henry gave to Dorian.

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Will meditation/mindfuflness practise ruin my talent for escapism?
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What is it with this board and asking completely ridiculous and worthless questions?
>hey /lit/ so if i do this will this happen
>i dont get this book /lit/ can you hold my hand and explain it to me
>/lit/ i am fully autistic, dyslexic, and probably depressed and want to kill myself, can you find me a book that will magically solve all my problems?

Fuckin hell m8
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>>8743808
>talent for escapism
you stupid or what?
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>>8743808
>talent for escapism
What?


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