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Hey /lit/
I recently had an idea that doesn't let me go. It's about how gaming affects the way you see the images in your head when you read.
When I read something and it says that the story's set in, let's say a small valley in New England, I immediatley imagine where on the map it is and in which direction the valley points. Once I've set up that orientation in my head it usually stays as is and when the text says that a house faces south wich I imagined facing north I'm usually disturbed.
I've talked to friends and some of them...
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>>8737159
>playing 'vidya'

Please leave
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>>8737159
>phenomenon wich has strengthend in the generations of readers who were raised with video games, wich enhance their 3-dimensional thinking.
Makes a lot of sense OP. Playing vidya would enhance your 3D perception far more than going the fuck outside like they used to do.

Frankly you're completely fucking retarded. You made a baseless theory with no control group based on a hunch that doesn't make any sense. If it triggers you so hard, don't jump to conclusions when you visualize.
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>>8737159
>It's about how gaming affects the way you see the images in your head when you read.
hmm OK. sounds interesting.

>When I read something and it says that the story's set in, let's say a small valley in New England, I immediatley imagine where on the map it is and in which direction the valley points.

well, anybody would do this. nothing really strange about that.

>Once I've set up that orientation...
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where should I start?

already read animal farm, south of the border west of the sun, slaughterhouse 5, and Fahrenheit 451
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>>8737145
bump
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>>8737145
by removing the trip
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>Where do I start
>Already tripfagging
Anon no.

Start with Siddhartha.

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>read a good book
>get sad that you didn't write it
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>>8737104
>reading last sentence thing in ulysses
>get pissed joyce wrote this before me
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>write a good book
>get sad that you didn't read it
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>>8737107

that sentence is like fifty pages

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>Received my first rejection letter today
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>still better than 90% of /lit/
keep fighting, my nigger.
a single rejection is nuffin.
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What did it say
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>>8737175
It seemed pretty boilerplate. Mostly just an apology for taking a pass and that plenty of bestsellers have been rejected before. I suppose it could have been worse.

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Was it even a competition?

Seriously, name me one absolute essential piece of American lit I should read that will live up to the Russians. Go ahead, i'm waiting.

There is nothing that comes close to the phenomenal and incredibly profound works of Dostoevsky and Tolstoy.
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>>8737058
Nabokov was born in dubs and died in dubs.
Wow.
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These men, in my Rodina, they are nothing.
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>>8737058
Moby Dick, Blood Meridian and Gravity's Rainbow are better than all Tolstoy and most Dosto btw

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Hey /lit/,

I was wondering something, what does /lit/ think of the Harry Potter franchise?

When I was younger I loved the movies when I saw them for the first time, but as I got older I grew a little bit more cynical and stopped liking anything HP related. And now I'm wondering whether I was judging it unfairly to be edgy.

What do ya'll think of it?
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>>8737013
I am not emotionally invested in it.
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>>8737013

I just reread the first book for shits and giggles, here are some things I noticed:

The setting is actually compelling, I found myself wanting to be at hogwarts while reading. Harry is genuinely a disgusting person in the first book and the author doesn't seem to know it. Tons of plot points are laughably contrived to give Harry the chance to be hero (the snitch is just plain retarded and obviously there so harry can further save the day in quidditch matches as if defeating voldemort isn't enough,...
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>>8737013
I read and enjoyed them as a kid. They weren't my favourite books. The world building was excellent. I didn't like the movies but everything in them looked exactly how I imagine it would.

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When I was 16 I discovered internet atheism and became a tard for a year or so. Luckily I live in the uk and nobody gives a flying fuck, so I never embarrassed myself with a public argument about it.

Now I'm in my mid twenties. I'm still an atheist but I realised I've never read an intelligent book on the subject, just online circlejerks. What would you recommend? Is the God delusion just a meme or is it actually good?
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become agnostic
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>>8736962
I'm an agnostic atheist.
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>>8736958
>I'm still an atheist but I realised I've never read an intelligent book on the subject, just online circlejerks.
But why should atheist be part of your identity? Let's be honest here, Dawkins and his buddies are into identity politics as well. (Also hate their reductionist approach (Dawkins and Dennet) to things, but that aside).

I do consider acceptance of the theory of evolution a part of my identity, but I feel no need to make that a part of my identity. I...
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What are some thing I should avoid when writing?
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The letter s
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/thread
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>>8736941
kek

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That feeling when you read to get more knowledgeable but forget what whole books were about, or have false memories about, or cannot even explain what you've read
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better diet
I live off chips, soda, and gummi bears and I can't remember a damn thing.
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>>8736912
What is the /lit/ diet?
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>>8736912
>>8736948
OP here, my diet is very Mediterranean, but with lots of teas and dark chocolate.
And I eat meat only as a luxery item, so once in a while some fish or chicken.

>>topic
I can rationalize that the books I hardly remember or not at all, weren't worth remembering anyway

Not sure what to think of the false memories and lack of being able to explain what I've read.

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tfw some says tom wolfe is trash and another person agrees with him and neither say why
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>>8736854
who the fuck is tom wolfe?
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Your suits are odd looking, old man
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>>8736866
Are you for serious?

Has there ever been a famous writer with a name that is difficult to pronounce?

For speakers of his language, I mean.
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>>8736627
>famous
I was going to say my diary but then I saw this word, so I am not replying with "my diary desu".
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>>8736627
>Name that's hard to pronounce
>For people who spoke his language

No, but you'll find some american authors whose names are constantly mispronounced since they are of foreign origin.
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>>8736627
Yes.
It was even forbidden to pronounce it.

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Would you name your daughter Ilias?
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If, despite the cosmically small chance of it happening, I reproduce and have a daughter then, no, I wouldn't call her that. I'd call her Alice or something equally cute. Why the hell would you hand out greek names anyway? Greeks are shit.
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>>8736789
Oh, I also always thought that if I ever had a daughter, I would like to name her Alice; it's a really cute, yet elegant name! :)
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No, I'd call her Sophia or Embla.

Not that i'll ever have kids though.

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Post books you think normies should read and why.

I think normies should read The Death of Ivan Ilyich so they might realise how unfulfilling their current lives are and become more introspective. It's also very short so they will be able to get through it.
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>>8736557
Iliad so that the constructions of modernity may be lifted from their eyes and the infallible World of God seen.
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>>8736557
im reading it and its all about a dude who married unhapply and is dying now. what is this.
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>>8736557
>'normie'

You aren't on /r9k/, you fucking loser

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I've unconsciously neglected reading during the past two years, so I've decided to read 10 books in 2017.

I haven't read many of the great novels I see in the usual Top 100 lists.

I like clear, minimalist, to-the-point prose like Hemingway's Old Man and the sea. I've also a penchant for overtly violent and horrific stories, like Books of Blood, American Psycho and Stephen King's older novels.


So far I'm interested in:

For Whom The Bell Tolls
Child of God
Blood Meridian

Can anyone recommend any books...
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>10 books.
>The only three you listed are short.
>Pleb-tier.

Read the Iliad, The Odyssey, then end with a selection of works from the Russians.
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I'll read all of Dostoevsky, Shakespeare, Sophocles, Homer, possibly some Hesiod, Ovid and Joyce.

No wait that's for the end of this year my bad.
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>clear, minimalist, to-the-point prose like Old Man and the Sea

Then you don't want to read For Whom the Bell Tolls. Read The Sun also Rises and A Farewell to Arms first, as well as Men without Women or any other short story collection by him. Then check out FWtBT if you're still interested.

That said, Iliad + Odyssey is good, add to that shorter works by Dostoevsky (Penguin double edition of Notes from Underground and The Double would be good).

Then I would recommend Dubliners and Crying of Lot 49 (for something a...
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Why are the majority of people that like this book pseudo intellectuals?
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>>8736457
Because they haven't read it.
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Lightweight intellectuals, heard it today.
People like you.
I only read a bit over 2/3s...
I think I missed one of the most important bits but also skipped one of the lamest bits, probably. I'll probably finish it one day.

James Joyce is like the lotr books, a journey.
I've heard that the other book is "better", with some of the same characters.
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>BLOOM: (Desperately.) Wait. Stop. Gulls. Good heart. I saw. Innocence.
Girl in the monkeyhouse. Zoo. Lewd chimpanzee. (Breathlessly.) Pelvic
basin. Her artless blush unmanned me. (Overcome with emotion.)

w-what did he mean by this

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Why is John 'cuck' Green worshipped on /lit/ ?
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It's funny and a bit sad how hard you're trying.
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>>8736394
You know the general consensus is negative.

In that pic he's right, you know.
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>>8736400
>In that pic he's right, you know.

Few people care about John Green own sex life, if he wants to be a cuck then that's his prerogative, it's just that he expects other people to follow his lead in cuckoldry.

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R8 my purchases from the last few months
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>>8736316

All that spooky stuff and no Arthur Machen?
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>>8736432
Haven't got around to his stuff yet
Any recs?
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is pizzolatto worth reading? i liked true detective

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Why is nihilism almost always used as a pejorative? If you're a theist, I can understand. But to nonreligious posters, why are you so firm in your conviction against it where you react angrily to any post that hints at it? Along with accusations of adolescence, being edgy, etc. Just because it's offensive to our instincts doesn't make it false.
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>>8736310
It is not a constructive way to approach the world.
Inherently negative outlook on life is also a sign of mental illness.
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>>8736319
Maybe if you're needlessly pessimistic. I don't think value judgements are necessary to a nihilistc perspective. Another kind of mental illness is delusion. I've been wanting to have a clear picture of the world and my place in it, so I've been reading theology and so on.

I should clarify that I'm only really a nihilist when it comes to morality and the probability of attaining divine, perfect knowledge in this life or the next, since I don't think there's a divine intellect...
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>>8736310
Insecurity, perhaps. But also, because Nihilism is absolute cancer.

>>8736334
The people you refer to aren't going to disagree with you on this. The idea that nothing has an inherent value is not the problem, the idea that nothing can have any value at all is the cancerous part. The only logical conclusion of it is to kill yourself.

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What does /lit/ think of this book and this philosophy?

I finished reading the book recently, and to be honest, there are a lot of things that I disagree with a few things that I agree with.

I personally don't like this philosophy and I will probably never follow it, but I think that it is an accurate description of how most people behave.

I do agree that one must care about his/her own interests, but not to the selfish extent described in this philosophy.

There are also a lot of other things that I disagree with.
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It's well intentioned but stupid.
>Do not give opinions or advice unless you are asked.
Nigga I didn't ask.
>If a guest in your lair annoys you, treat him cruelly and without mercy.
It's not his fault you find him annoying.
>Do not make sexual advances unless you are given the mating signal.
The "mating signal" is a sexual advance. Don't make sexual advances unless someone makes a sexual advance? How the fuck is that supposed to work?

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>>8736313
Yeah, the book is full of logical inconsistencies and vague statements.
But I also don't like the philosophy itself.
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It just fills in the holes of Christianity.

*shrugs*

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What is the single most well written book?
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>>8736112
Unironically, the Bible.
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>>8736127
What book?
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>>8736112
The Last of The Mohicans

ITT shitty books lit got you to read.
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>>8736023

What's not to love about a MILF fucking young autists?
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>>8736027
HOLY... Downloading now.
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>>8736029
Inspired by a true story.

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/lit/ I told you not to reveal your power levels

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOYoou3genk
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I know that guy is full of shit, but I would to have discussions with him.
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>So I told him I am going to make human will great again
>I am gonna have untermesnch build it, and there's gonna be the word trump on it written with all gold letters
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>>8735858

Hahaha

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Anybody hyped to see this modern intellectual debate zizek?
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>>8735832
Who are we talking about?
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>>8735838
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>>8735854
Nice bait purpling Beck and Savage.

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To say that 'Everything is relative.', would be making an objective measurement on the supposed relativity of that within the linguistic sphere.
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>>8735753
>Not reading Putnam.
>Not knowing that such terms are just shorthand for something more complicated
>Literal autism taking things literally.

OP pls.
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>>8735753
What if I say that "Everything is relative" is a subjective statement?
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>>8735792

i'd say that subjectivity is lost on the whole my man, ever heard of hegel's zeitgeist?

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Sluggish footsteps resonated on the rotting stairs of His Koreatown apartment. Screeching of the rusting grillage, door cracked open, the green stucco peeling off the exterior wall as the flesh of a week old corpse on a blazing summer day. He had to use excessive force to lodge the door back into its unsymmetrical framing. The single room was empty and denuded. It was a sanctuary of darkness; eternal shadows were vainly persecuted by the light being filtered through the broken, lonely window. It was drawing on a scape of fragmented downtown towers ridden by the dying palms of...
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Luring in the stamina of the campaign, the willows only sifted through a small percentage of the stench of the open sewer main upwind of the conference hall. Many of the staunch citizens approached their seats with a grimace of disgust and a gush of vomit splashing against the back of their throats, wondering what they'll have to agree to that day just to keep their fingers inside. Little did they realize that their hair cuts were in vain, and it was simply an execution of an aboriginal at the expense of the high...
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>>8735731
Post more, liked it, want to know what happens next
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>>8735731

not cringy anon, just a bit of an adjective overload

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Opinions on this book /lit/?
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>>8735612
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>>8735612
I wasn't super into it but overall I enjoyed it
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a bit weak in terms of prose but still great

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Anybody read this thing? The idea of /ourguy/ writing a sequel to an obscure science-fiction novel sounds too strange to be true. I'm considering ordering a copy just because I don't think I'll be able to believe it until I see it.
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>>8735584
Do it and report back. Apparently it was pretty good but bloom himself came to hate it
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it's not that bad so far as fantasy goes
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>>8735584
>The idea of /ourguy/ writing a sequel to an obscure science-fiction novel sounds too strange to be true.

Maybe you should have less assumptions stuck in your ass, shithead.

>>8735815
He didn't hate it, but Bloom realized it wasn't clear enough to be the "Gnostic indoctrinating Lord of the Rings in one novel", that he sought out to write.

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Hey guys. I have recently started reading spring snow by Mishima and so far it's been somewhat underwhelming.

I'm not a huge fan of descriptive imagery for the sake of descriptive imagery and so far there has been little else.

I am curious of your thoughts about Mishima; this is the first of his works I've gotten around to.
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I just read Patriotism today, and saw his movie of the same name. I've only ever read Sailor before and i loved it. I was deciding whether to read Spring Snow next after what im currently finishing and i think i will, maybe i can start it later if you want to talk Mishima, i would. I saw the Schneider biopic and thats when i became fascinated by Mishima, i even took Japanese in grade 12 with plans to someday know it well enough to read him in the original.
Also in terms of the imagery, i know he does this a lot, i personally like it when its done well
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I only read confessions and the imagery is not entirely predominant but probably what I liked the most about it
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I really liked Sailor who fell from grace with the sea when I read it.

Sound of Waves was also pretty boss.

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>enjoy a scifipunk novel
>suddenly psionics

who is to blame?

tarkovsky?

hippies?
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u wot m8
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the dick!
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>>8737337
Daddy!

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>Me:
>1984
>2 copies
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>Dune
>2 copies
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>House of Leaves
>2
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>Infinite Jest
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