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>Told my friends about the novel I'm writing
>They make fun of it all the time and it's become a running joke
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>>8729571
Your friends are cocks. You should friends with similar interests or friends that at least appreciate what your trying to do.
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>>8729571
Tell us about the novel you're writing so we can make fun of you too
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>>8729631

It's a semi-autobiographical novel about a lonely guy falling in love with a woman on the other side of the world over the internet.

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>he reads translations
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Good luck with Camus, Dostoevsky, Waltari, Cervantes, Dante, Hemingway and Homeros. Hope you are multilingual enough.
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>>8729589
>he doesn't speak at least italian, french and spanish

pleb
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>he thinks translations are meant to produce an identical text

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What forgeries have you encountered lately?
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>that nail

london?
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>>8729399
I went to South East Asia. Not a legitimate copy of a book in sight.
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>>8729402
Men get manicures too. Don't jump to conclusions.

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>semicolons in dialogue
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>>8729371
>punctuation in dialogue
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Fuck off punk. Semicolons are my shit.
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>>8729372
>punctuation

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Requesting any interesting or intricate dialogue scenarios my fellow il/lit/erates can think up.

I have a lot of trouble figuring out an in-scene purpose to the dialogue to make it interesting.

Examples of what I mean:

>One character tries to annoy the other; the other keeps his temper and changes the subject.

>One character is witty, clever, or dramatic, but the other holds power over her (such as being her captor).

>Both characters are equally angry, despondent,...
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those are all interesting. another one you might try is the following:

senselessly drunk fey intellectual with poor social skills tries to explain his complicated stance on monarchy to one of his majesty the king's soldiers occupying his homeland as his jewish ersatz father tries to intervene.
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>>8729354
Does she want to get married?
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>>8729366
Back of the line.

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>buy new book
>bring it to work to read on my breaks
>take it out of bag
>somehow its wet all the way through
>ink is smudging
>every single page is affected
>no access to an iron or any kind of heater to save it
I am so angry right now.
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Was it a female book?
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>>8729280
It was Lord of the flies
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>>8729284
Did a big boulder fall on it too?

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>russian "realism"
>characters routinely talk fluidly for 3-5 pages like they're giving speeches.
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Daily reminder that Gorgoroth is nothing without Ghaal and King.
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>>8729131
Russian realism didn't come into it's fullest flower until the advent of the social realism of the Soviet cinema.
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>>8729170
No shit, at least Gaahl's Wyrd is coming up with an album

>tfw Kvitravn and Gaahl duo on Steg

King joining Abbath felt a bit strange though

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Anybody here waste a substantial amount of their lives playing video games and now feel behind-the-pack as far as literary progression goes? I'm 26, and I've read an ok amount of stuff, but I only really got started with the greeks and and 'real' literature when I was 22. Considering true patrish' are ballin out of control and on their way to being published by my age, I can't help but feel totally lost and overwhelmed by the amount of literature I've yet to be exposed to....

I've wasted upwards of 3-4 years of my life playing Street...
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Nope. I played cod4 for 3 years and league for 5. Now I still have a ton of great books to look forward to instead of just "ironically" shit posting and gargling James Joyce's cum when I'm not deciding whether or not to an hero
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Yea man I feel you. Am actually 22 now and same as you have read an alright amount of books over the years, literally classics etc. But have yet to read the now modern ones. Feels bad man. Sometimes I wish I could stop playing games for a while and catch up but can't seem to grab the incentive to do so.
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>>8729034
>literally classics etc
No hope for you.

>>8729028
No hope for you.

>>8729019
No hope for you.

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We pretend to be /mu/ and post our favorite books 3x3
I'll start
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What am I, a girl?
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redpill me on the name of the rose, why it good?
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What the heck, I'll humour you.

Why don't we start a literary journal?

Then we can say we've been published

(especially before age 25)

Who's in?
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>>8728979
what are we gonna do, superficial reviews of blood meme?
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I am in, OP. I am genuinely in. What would we write about?
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>Who's in?

I like the idea, but your margins are simply too small for me to feel safe investing. I'm out.

Are the Metro books any good? A friend of mine is trying to get me into the series but I'm not sure if they're good or not.
I don't want to waste my time on garbage.
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Read one and find out.
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>>8728957
It is garbage, I bet your friend is a pro shit consumer.
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>Genre fiction
>Not garbage

Pick one.

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Hey /lit/ I'm looking for some recommendations on writers that incorporate elements of mysticism and occultism in their fiction. Ideally something a little more subtle than Robert Anton Wilson's Illuminatus trilogy, but any suggestions at all would be helpful. Thanks in advance
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Check out Pessoa, dude was a warlock
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Colin Wilson but most of his stuff is shit he churned out for a paycheque

Try The Mind Parasites and The Philosopher's Stone, if you like Lovecraft themes (you should, if you're into mystic/occult shit)
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you may have read him already, but UMBERTO ECO is literally everything you want and more

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How does /lit/ keep their page while reading?
I used to fold the corner like in the pic, but recently I've just started tearing the page out once I finish it.
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What the fuck
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Have you considered stop being so retarded?
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Yeah I tear the page out too

What's the most expensive book you own? Most expensive book you'd like to own?
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>>8728844
$600 bible from the 1800s; it's two volumes and are more like tomes
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>>8728844
>Most expensive book you'd like to own?
Everyman's Library Fall of the Roman Empire
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>What's the most expensive book you own?

100 Euro used.

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Was Nabokov a pedo? How was he able to write is such beautiful detail such a taboo subject without experience?
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by beign really smart
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by rapping children's
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by reading shitloads of studies/real world accounts of it

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What are some books/authors/thinkers who can rationalize the mindset of joining a war? The concept has always appeared odd to me, why dedicate myself to a state who has corporations at their best interest. I'm American so
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>>8728735
There is a whole genre of whack-job pro military books that you can buy in army navy surplus stores.

The Carlos Hathcock biography is another good example.
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Check out Storm of Steel.
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>>8728735
eh, breaking buds kinda.

Maybe I can shed some light:
I very seriously considered (and still do) going out for SOF. Imagine: you need to be at the absolute fucking top of your game or you're going to get killed. You wake up, eat, sleep and breathe training; no bullshit whatsoever. Your body needs to be in top condition, your mind as well (debatable by /lit/ standards). You are surrounded by guys who are just as intensely about being. fucking. on. point. That's the culture. You know how in academia or the workforce there's people who can't cut it and you just have to deal with them and it's awful? SOF is a lifestyle where that cannot exist. if anyone in the group allows it to exist, someone is going to die. Gotta be self-sufficient as well as team-worker.

Now imagine, you wake up one morning, get your next mission, and your boss (who you have begrudgingly learned to trust with your fucking life because the guy is an incomprehensible monster strategist/tactician/whatever) sends you and your mates, who are also your drinking buddies, out on a mission to swim three miles underwater, sneak into enemy territory and shoot rapists in the face. You get to shoot bad guys in the fucking face. To protect innocent people.

Now, the "it's always badguys and we don't kill innocents" seems naive. I mean, we here on 4chan know the military is usually not used for copacetic ends. Hell Smedley Butler even said so. But even if that's the case, just imagine: you get paid to be /fit/ as fuck. You get to hunt people. You are the guy from the movie. Imagine being in a grocery store and three dudes with guns show up to rob the place and instead of nervousness or fear, your immediate instinct is "FUCK YEAH LETS GO FINALLY TIME FOR SOME FUN" because you know exactly how to use a pack of bubblegum and two snickers from the checkout shelf next to you to vaporize these punks. You get paid to be the fucking terminator. /lit/ is all about moral flexibility; maybe being the fucking terminator is worth taking some innocent lives to you.

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Can /lit/ recommend that make you feel less alone when depressed? Kinda like The Bell Jar and Catcher in the Rye?
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>>8728718
please help me guys
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Depressed people shouldn't read about depressed people. You shouldn't necessarily read Hölderlin, but you really shouldn't read books like that when you feel alone. And I'm not going to recommend you books of camaraderie, because, like waking from a good dream, the contrast is nearly unbearable. Maybe take the night and let yourself feel this, accept being alone. Then, when you find it hardest to get on your feet, do so. Then take a walk.
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>>8728782
Let me guess, you're one of those people who experienced mild depression that was cured by "going for a walk" and talking to people, and as a result feels qualified to advise people who have been severely depressed since they were fucking 12?

To be clear, by "less alone" I didn't mean "make me feel like I have friends." I meant "less alone in the illness." Like I'm not the only one who experiences this.

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>Il n'a jamais lu un livre en français
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>日本語で一度も本を読んだことがない

>Nunca ha leído ningún libro en español
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>>8728673
J'ai baisé ta mère et lui ai parlé en français
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>>8728673
Maldito plebeyo.

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Why is the History of the Peloponnesian War harder to read then Herodotus's history?
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>>8728651
fellow Columbia anon pls
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>>8728665
Hey buddy I'm an American.
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>>8728688
>Columbia
>Colombia

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or no?
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Why would you want those letters to be put in that order so that other humans could extract meaning from them
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>>8728643
Yes but not in a leninist form, and you may not like the social results. Also, Czechoslovakia says no.
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i think capitalism is a disease

but i also want to preserve the existence of my people

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Are the finer details of this interesting enough to trawl through or should I just move on to another book /lit/?
The general consensus has just been covered for me in the introduction.
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>>8728634
Move on. Pop sci is bad, even if it's pop social-sci
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If all you care about is being able to prove to others that you've 'read it' by being able to recite the general wiki-level gist of the book, then sure go read the introduction to another book and do so in perpetuity so you can feel smart for having soundbyte-tier knowledge of literature. Who knows, maybe you'll be able to fool even yourself
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>>8728659
I'm listening to a lecture on the history of food right now where Diamond's thesis regarding East/West transmission of agriculture and domestication is agreed upon for now

>>8728634
Why Nations Fail and Political Order and Political Decay are two books that argue persuasively against his thesis, both claiming that institutions trump geographic or indeed racial limitations on development of functioning society.

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>start writing
>everything i write is a copy or some form of copy of other media that I 'drew inspiration' from
>feel like im ripping them off and stop

am i creatively bankrupt? is this normal?
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Stop making this thread it's not funny.
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>>8728494
wat


first thread about this ive ever made, give me an actual answer, fag
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>>8728490
Only the creator may truly create.

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What the fuck is this?
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I'm hoping it's a book, as this is a literature board
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>>8728399
If it's anything like Empire of the Senseless - incoherent proto-tumblr ramblings of a mediocrity.
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>>8728399
my diary desu

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should i throw infinite jest away
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>>8728371

why not read molloy, malone dies, the unnamable by samuel beckett, a far superior work
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>>8728371
Nah it gets really good 600 pages in, the rest is pretty necessary build-up. Slog it out, you'll be happy for it. IJ wasn't critically acclaimed for no reason.
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It gets good around page 950 or so. Give it a go! It can't be bad if some other people liked it.

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Do you read a book with the dust jacket on or off? On here.
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>>8728309
On, my man. However, I will remove the dust jacket if it slides off too easily
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Literally why have it on?

Particularly, when you're reading, it's just a weird physical thing that takes me out of reading whenever I have to do anything, like turn the pages.
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>>8728309
Who cares?
Sage.

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I've encountered this form in Aeschylus ;

φρυkτὸς δέ φρυkτὸν δεῦρʹ ἀπ' ἀγγάρου πυρὸς
ἔπεμπεν·

I wanted to know, is the form "φρυkτὸς δέ φρυkτὸν" common, to mean "from x to x?"


Could one say, for example,

ἡμέρα δέ ἡμέρᾱν,

"From day to day"?
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>>8728279
B Y M P
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>>8728279
?????????
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>>8728279
pls

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I went to film camp. I’ve read Sard. I’ve read Thomas Pynchon. I’ve read Ayn Rand. I’ve been to Italy. I’ve been to France. I speak French. I’ve been to Spain. I’ve been to South America. I’ve been to Kenya. I’ve been to China. I backpacked across Europe. I prefer tea to coffee. I’ve been to Greece. I love Greek food. I’m a foodie. I’m always on the lookout for a great little place to get breakfast. I sometimes go to Barnes and Noble and lose track of the time.

The black people that I’ve met said I have a lot of flavor. I love my MacBook but...
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REALLY MAKES YOU THINK
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Is Charles, dare I say it, "our guy"?
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gonna get me one-a dem bahzhelz

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Could someone who hasn't read The Odyssey or anything else by Joyce pick this book up and read it like any other?

Will crucial allusions go over my head? Or can I enjoy it as a standalone
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>>8728077
You could get the synopsis of The Odyssey on wikipedia and get most of the allusions. Ulysses is far more than just a modern retelling of it though
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>>8728090
When you say far more than it, do you mean in terms of allusions?
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>>8728077
It's beautifully written, if you speak english and enjoy literature you'll get something from the book.

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Any recomendation on where to start with him? Also, why are americans post modernists such good writers? I'm not american myself but lately I've been ready Gass and Gaddis and found them masterful. I'd love to find more like them.
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Anybody?
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this nigga look like a frog lmao
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> Also, why are americans post modernists such good writers?

They really aren't. Nobody reads them for a reason.

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ITT your favorite Books and why you hate women.

My favorite book is A Scanner Darkly and I hate women because of their shameless exploitation of the sexual revolution, which they blew out of proportion thanks to their many beta providers and inherently degenerate nature. It has been over 50 years ago, yet you're still using it as an excuse to be controlling whores ALL THE TIME: the insane manipulation of media, the casual sex, the atrocities you're committing against mankind with the rights men GAVE you thanks to your beta "friends" in the Western...
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>Can you imagine a male whore being excused

it's called being a chad numbnuts. if you had lurked a bit longer you would know what that is and why this stupid shit belongs in /r9k/
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>>8727981
My favorite book is Golden Apples of the Sun and I think women are great. They have more practice socializing, so once you meet the minimum threshold of social consciousness you're allowed to play in faeryland. I hate people like you because you wreck parties and people can see that you hate yourself from a city block away
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>>8727981
My favorite so far is Blood Meridian and I don't hate women, but I hate that they are inherently shallow and that I was born ugly and raised by shit parents who stunted my ability to socialize. I've only had sex with girls who I found disgusting on some level. Bottom of the barrel fatties and mentally damaged whores with hpv. I'd kill myself but I'm too much of a pussy. But to blame this all on women is missing the point and unfair to them. Women are such shallow creatures because if they get knocked...
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