I want to transition from anime to literature because anime sucks.
My favorite anime is Evangelion, please give me some recommendations.
OP, you have a taste in anime, not literature. Don't expect to find something that will match your taste in a different medium. What you like in anime may not be found, or at least, not conveyed in a similar fashion in literature.
But is pretentious, doesn't present any interesting views and is glorified because of it's random gibberish moments.
Well, maybe the original version has something in it and it was lost in translation but I don't think I want to reread it in English when there is a lot of better books in world.
t: not the anon you were answer ing to
I went to the UK premiere of Evangelion 3.33, and at least half the audience had a 3DS and a fedora. During the 10 minutes before the film starts, everyone was on their DS doing the streetpass thing.
There was a really tall ferdora tipper sitting right in front of me, who refused to take it off his hat during the entire movie, blocked my fucking view, the prick.
After spending all the time on 4chan hearing about them, it was quite surreal.
in hindsight, I wish I brought my 3DS though
I like anime fine, but I can't get on the same page as people who pretend its some kind of elevated medium. Like yeah some of them are fun to watch, but so many people sperg out so much that they can't call a spade a spade.
First give me the best of anime that you want to make a comparison to.
>Someone on a board about literature says anime is good and entertaining but that it isn't a high medium of art
>Butthurt anime pro responds by comparing anime to TV shows for some reason as if either one is a high medium of art
> Aeon Flux uses it to contort facial expressions in radical ways to express things the human face realistically can't
holy shit shut up about aeon flux already i swear this is like the 20th time i've seen you post this
In all seriousness, Dostoevsky. The Brothers Karamazov's grand themes of the human condition as told through long monologues that intersect with the story may interest you if that's what you love about Evangelion. The depth and struggles of the characters should be right up your alley. I say this because I used to be obsessed with the show and Dostoevsky was my introduction into truly appreciating literature.
I still think Evangelion is one of the greatest works of popular culture of the 20th century. Flawed, yes, but also brilliant in ways Anno probably never intended. Btw, Kaworu = Prisoner from The Grand Inquisitor. Wrote a paper in high school about this once.
Not OP here, but just watched the show/End of Eva in the past couple months and enjoyed it...
Can I ask if you've still got the paper to share, or in broad strokes what your points were?
Yeah, I still remember parts of it. It was for my AP English class Senior year.
Kaworu's role in starting Third Impact in order to resolve humanity's conflicts via Instrumentality as well as his refusal to do so mirrors how Christ was meant to absolve the unfulfilled "limits of humanity" in The Grand Inquisitor. Both SEELE/Gendo and the Inquisitor believe that mankind, too weak for the power of freedom, can instead be replaced by civilization/progress/technology acting as God to remedy these problems instead. This is more appropriately represented in NGE as the Eva series and Rei, both creations meant to be human imitations of holy power (the Angels), as opposed to the holy imitating the profane (Kaworu and Christ). Instead of bringing about the kind of absolution that SEELE/The Catholic Church intends, they bring humanity freedom to resolve these tasks through the ability of Christ-like love.
somebody posted a decent update of this recently with Lot 49 and Dubliners, I think.
also call me whatever for noticing this but I also remember that it had
no female authors (the current chart at least has one)
Well fuck me, that's a pretty great comparison - I've got some thinkin' to do.
Thanks for sharing.
>hear a lot of good stuff about evangelion
>decide to give it a try
>it's mostly just the story of a really wimpy, whiny faggot that has to do something but whines the entire time and ruins everything for everybody because he's such a coward
>can't continue because he's just so insufferable
The guy listed Eva and Lain as the only two anime he enjoyed. Most of the stuff you put on there is a bit too low brow to really fit in with that, except Jin-Roh.
And yes, everybody likes (most) everything by Ghibli and Kon.
Yeah heaven forbid a chronically depressed 14 year old doesn't jump at the chance to be mind raped by 300 meter tall nuke laser throwing abominations from billions of years in the past.
Shinji might cry a lot but Jesus.
Also, Oshii, Jin Roh got mentioned, but he directed things like Angel's Egg, Gosenzosama Banbanzai, The Sky Crawlers and the Patlabor movies.
If you're into the existential mecha subgenre (apparently, it is a thing), try RahXephon and Zegapain, Bokurano and Betterman.
Lain is part of a trilogy of sorts, with Texhnolyze and Haibane Renmei being the other two shows, so you should check them out as well.
Some other shows/movies you could try:
Shoujo Kakumei Utena
Ghost in the Shell movies and SAC, skip Arise
Kino no Tabi
Kaiba and other shows Maasaki Yuasa directed (Mind Game, Tatamy Galaxy, Kemonozume, Ping Pong)
Spring and Chaos
Night on the Galactic Railroad
If you don't mind older animation, check out Legend of the Galactic Heroes and works of Dezaki Osamu (Ashita no Joe, Rose of Versailles, Ie Naki Ko, Onii-sama e), Gundam UC (79 and Zeta, ZZ if you're up for goofball comedy, but otherwise skip to Char's Counterattack).
>>it's mostly just the story of a really wimpy, whiny faggot that has to do something but whines the entire time and ruins everything for everybody because he's such a coward
This is the whole mecha genre though anon, don't you know?
well tell us what exactly struck most deeply in evangelion. this is often not what is most easily recalled.
fucking vaguely concealed copy pasta might actually facilitate good discussion fcuck
I know VNs are still anime-style but try reading reading Subarashiki Hibi when the translation becomes available, I assure you it will be worth in the end, and it'll be good to get used to reading too.
VHS is still better in Jap, the Count and the heroine have mediocre English VAs. Strangely Bloodlust had a better English cast and better animation but was worse overall for obvious reasons.
OP, read Mardock Scramble
They adapted it into a movie trilogy a while back, but I've only seen the first one.
Also, read more manga. It's a superior medium to anime anyway.
A couple were by me, and I was banned not too long after posting them. Could that have gotten them taken down?
If you're curious, the ban came from an ASOIAF thread where I made a fairly normal post and recieved a one month ban for Ban Evasion, which is strange because I've never been banned before.
do you even read books? There are plenty of characters in the western canon that are infinitely more insufferable from Shinji.
In any case, "I just HATE the characters" isn't a valid reason to discount a work of art.
Read some Lacan. No, joking, lol, you won't get it. If you REALLY want to read about lacanian concepts like the other/Other and the "lack" and all that 20th century psych, some people say our good Zizek is a good intro to Lacan.
If you want fiction you'll have to say more. Psychoanalytical character development has been around for more than a century in literature.
Why is making an homage to a book cover different from any kind of homage?
Loved Love & Pop, Anno can actually direct human beings and I was impressed; but I wouldn't consider it so close to Evan, it's more of a Kare Kano kind of deal.
You didn't like Rei or Misato?
Don't want to start another animu thread so I'll ask it here
What literature is most similar to LoGH? Aside from the books it's based on.
I've heard it compared to War and Peace which I have yet to read
At one point I made this. But the similarities make more sense after you've read the book...
Not the anon you replied to.
MGSV is pretty much the only game coming out that I'm personally interested in.
The Witcher 3
Majora's Mask remake
Gigantic (Some online MOBA game that looks good)
HYper Light Drifter
Silent Hills (prob wont be until 2016 tho)
No Man's Sky
I'm hyped for Bloodborne but I'm not buying a PS4 for one fucking game.
The sopranos and the wire are better than any anime. Also Curb your Enthusiasm has better comedy than anything.
Fargo, True detective, House of Cards, and Peaky Blinders have potential.
Fuck I really just replied to bait from 2 days ago. That got me good.
OP you should read Siddhartha by Hesse.
Why do people always go to the Sopranos when talking about the pinnacle of TV? Best show coming thru.
Also the TV > anime argument is fucking retarded stop shoving your preferences down other's throats.
TV will never be able to surpass film, etc. etc. etc.
Double on this one. 10 Billion days and 100 Billion nights is also good if you like ridiculous Japanese Science Fiction that meshes with Theological bullshit.