Let's have an art thread.
And give me some recommendations for books about art. I'd like to read Marilyn Stokstads "Art History" but why is it so expensive? Any good alternatives?
What's the problem with modern art?
Most of it is appalingly bad.
Fair enough if that's you oppinion. But could you go a bit into detail? What exactly is bad?
4chan is full of neurotic and alienated young men convinced that modern life has been carefully engineered by liberals, Marxists, (3D) women, and Jews to frustrate our ambitions. Modern art reminds of us modern life.
The old question: What does the black square stand for?
that bosch was one crazy motherfucker.
Daily reminder that C. D. Friedrich was not a patrician, but a lonely virgin protestant neckbeard fedoracore no gf r9k-tier loser.
which of course made him quite the unique snowflake in the world of art and literature.
Do you faggots who post modern art ITT actually enjoy it? Or are you just posting it to boast about how hip and cultured you are?
I'm not sure how hip you are these days when you say that you like Kandinsky for example.
yep, those art threads are always a good away to get away with posting tits on /lit/.
People who pretend to like this sort of edgy nonsense are the ones trying to look hip and cultured: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_lbece7RqZU Not the guys posting modern art in this thread.
Here's some David Lynch, just for you.
why? because it repulses you?
that's some tumblr tier "it hurts my sensibilities so it must be a troll" logic. the correct reaction is to ignore it because there was no creative input to her work, the end result wasn't a human creation but a natural reaction so it's not art. Just like the ocean isn't art.
Nice performance if 4channers find it so memorable and disgusting, though, if you're going for impact and shock that's some pedigree right there.
I did (or at least one of them), but like with all famous paintings the hype is always too big and even a good painting can't give you the excitement that you'd get if you never heard about it.
oh, yeah, sorry. it does have an incredible first-year "i'm not sure waht the fuck is happening but i'm sure being artsy" ambient.
You're still using a pretty modern take on the word troll.
I haven't, but Rothko is quite impressive in person and you wouldn't guess so just by seeing a 1000x500 jpg since the size and the detail is part of it. I don't know why people cry, though, that's a bit too much.
Bacon, on the other hand, did impress me a lot as a child. But that's sort of his thing, a bit Palahniuck-y even if he is objectively talented.
And something less cheap and a bit more interesting in its detail.
On one hand I feel we've at least extensively documented most of those works while other works of that same period were destroyed in various fashions including that one. A bit of the shock comes from people who don't realize that that's what happened to every other piece like that and that there are more than a few still under the earth. The Museum of Cairo has so many sculptures they aren't even sure how many they have, with many "repeated" works being forgotten and sold in the black market.
I know that the worst thing is of course the senseless violence and the thousands of people killed by IS. But it really makes my blood boil what these barbarians are doing to these old artworks and sculpures. Just for that they should be shot.
I can attest to the Rothko needing to be in person. I saw a room (I think at Tate modern) dedicated to several of his Four Seasons commission paintings, and it gave me some odd feels.
So, side question, I feel guilty posting trap pics to identify since they are usually pretty poor art. Doe anyone have a cultured equivalent? Castrati paintings? Some greek stuff? I'm open to ideas.
I saw a retrospective last year and it was mildly interesting, it surely helped having read about his obsesions with grease or felt and the story he invented for it (barely surviving a plane crash, being rescued by tartars through those things). It also had some documentation of his short stunt in government and it was quite interesting, it clearly clashed with the pop crap liberty america was way into at that time.
But his best works are probably his performance. Death hare and coyote are awesome and I wish I could see something like that in museums now.
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A bit too much, I think. Subtlety is a nice thing.
Well, here is a classic one by Borghese.
looks like chris chan made an album cover. could a retard like considered to be an actual artist?
does chris chan listen to anco?
It made me lol but that image wasn't what I though I was posting. Let' see what this one is.
Looking for a painting I seen in one of these threads previously.
People playing tennis on grass behind a house with a giant conical hedge in the foreground. Really striking painting for some reason and I want to know more about it.
Video games are a form of media, which can fall into the genre of Art. They're not considered "High Art", but there is really no need to debate if a form of media can be art.
Couldn't agree more.
Whats an artist you enjoy, friend?
found some interesting interpretations of what a trap pic could be, now I can post again
I don't see why not
I really feel modern music hasn't been given a chance ever. It's taken as more of a joke than modern painting while being much more focused.
though that's some really poor tennis
not inherently, just like painting your wall isn't art.
was america ever that friendly and open?
according to who?
I sort of like Benjamin's interpretation as long as you don't take it as far as he did: art is anything that makes you wonder how such a small thing can mean so much.
I think that depends on your definition of art really, like >>6327300 says, they *can* fall under the "genre of art" but 95% of games released today, (even if you exclude AAA first-person-shooters) are almost exclusively designed to entertain the consumer. If you look at games that market themselves as "art games" (although never implicitly in order to avoid a mawkish, pretentious image) the methods in which they try and portray feelings and ideas are still restricted to the format of game mechanics, which are tailor made to keep the user immersed in the actual physicality of gameplay. Dear Esther is, in my opinion, is a great example of a game that rejects these mechanics and strives to make the entire focus of playing the game centre around artistic imagery, "literary" (for lack of a better word) dialogue and, most importantly, a central theme that make it entertaining in its own right, without the need of any other stimuli.
TDLR games are still very young, and it'll take time for more people / "artists" to realise the potential of it as an artform. If you look at music and painting, there's a similar pattern- the intention for their existence focused entirely on entertainment, albeit an educated and "serious" form of it. Maybe in the fullness of time we'll see a movement in games that mirrors these artforms, who knows.
No one into contemporary art?
My book recommendation would be Against Interpretation by Susan Sontag
That statue got so much shit because of the feather Don put behind David's leg, oh man.
Short explanation, the feather was gay.
Long one, is that if you look at the statue from multiple angles, you'll probably notice quite a few feminine features. The youth there is considerably younger than other renditions, and also far less muscular than David was classically depicted to be (Compare this work to, say, Michelangelo's famous rendition). Viewing the statue from one side, there's even a slight bulge to his nipples. The feather I'm talking about comes from the base of Goliath's helmet, trailing up the right side of Davids leg, forcing the viewer to follow it up to a certain area.
Remember that Sodomy was highly illegal at the time, and that David was a beloved symbol of the Florentine people.
Caused quite a stir when it was placed in the center of the courtyard of the Palazzo Medici Riccardi with the blessings of the Medici family, though it might have been for political reasons, if not social ones.
This could be a great reaction image
Not really worth it if you have other stuff in your list, I can't remember the name but circa 2008 she published a really nice book about home photography.
She got a ton of hate for some sjw and pro jews comments she had made decades ago and that aren't at all surprising from a 50 y/o woman. After that any simple line where she rejected masculine societal elements got lumped together.
You know how 4chan is, if someone at any point defends something you don't like it means that every single thing they said is automatically wrong forever and ever.
and even 4D!
I loved it, thanks for sharing