ITT we discuss the best jet in an /m/ series and
why it's the Turbokat.
Can the Turbokat achieve suborbital and space flight without any kind of atmospheric booster rocket? Becuase if it can't manage that I'm gonna have to give this one to VF-1 and it's descendants, even if they weren't built in a junkyard from scrapped police copters.
I thought the middle engine swung down for that.
Or was it vented through the front intakes...
Shit whatever the trick was I remember the Turbokat technically cheating its VTOL kinda like how variable fighters cheat it via GERWALK.
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Would only work if they could get at least Charles Adler and Barry Gordon back. Anyone else as Tbone and Razor would just sound out of place.
And of course, if they could get this guy back, that would just be icing on the cake.
>Turbokat will never make a cameo in AC:I
>imagine the theme song playing when mvp
A toast for the Turbokat. Motherfucking childhood at its finest.
Actually in the season 2 episode"when Strikes Mutilor" They used a super engine upgrade called the "speed of heat" that allowed them to go from the surface of the planet to low orbit.
Honestly Feral was a complete moron to can T-bone and Razor considering they're fucking Geniuses on a level unmatched.
They created a three engine Tomcat, capable of VTOL flight, can go from the surface of the planet to low orbit under it's own power, can switch to an orbital mode, has internal weapon bays, and has space for a back up vehicle.
Truly the best jet
VF-1 needed a booster too. The later model VFs like my planefu were SSTO though.
Low orbit? They made it outside of Earth's gravitational field and into space. Also the Turbokat must have had a dimensional portal as well to be able to hold things like the Turbo Mole or that hovercraft. If the thing carried conventional weaponry along with all the specialty missiles it had, it would be a true monster.
Basically this, Feral however selfish ordered them to break off their pursuit of Dark Kat and while arguing, they get shot down, and crash into and destroy the top of the new Enforcers HQ. Feral isn't the one who deal with those he deems incompetent well. (I'm not going to try to explain why Lt. Steel was still around after Feral utterly humiliated him.)
The only person who seems to get away with insubordination is Felina (One of the few times executive meddling proved to be a good thing.)
Either way, great show. Feels strange not blaming Ted Turner now after people thought he was directly responsible for the show's cancellation for almost two decades.
That the show got a good game to boot is a miracle of the universe (although the flight stages were few).
>not blaming Ted Turner
To be fair, he was stuck between a rock and a hard place. It might have cost his job if he didn't listen to the complaints of the morons below him. Plus, the show's darker elements were what 90s audiences deserved, but not what they needed at the time it came out.
> It might have cost his job if he didn't listen to the complaints
so was it soccer moms that forced him to cancel the show Then?
>the show's darker elements
still some of the best, if there was no indication they could save some poor smuck who got turned into a monster, Boom, they got blown the fuck up and the chopper guys died on the regular.
that episode ended IIRC with them pulling off an itano circus on Mutilor. Truly a jet the needs to be a secret unlock in every jet game ever.
Also anybody know if Swat Kats was done by Hanna Barbera's internal studio at the time or was it outsourced to like a korean or low level Japanese studio? stuff was getting kinda anime, like with callie going from a cat being to being a mostly Cat girl you'd find in an MMO
This was during one of the big 'violence on TV causes actual violence!' and Ted Turner went in front of congress and said his networks wouldn't run violent programing. So SWAT KATZ turned into a black eye for him. The real reason was because the product line wasn't coming out fast enough so Hanna Barbara was losing money (These were not cheap cartoons to make.) on the show. So it was an issue of money as to why it was ultimately cancelled and Ted Turner got an unfair portion of the blame.
He was swinging the chainsaw around at the WB section.
He was axed in favor of Felina for the 2nd season. Plus there wasn't much they can do with the character since his only purpose was to be there to supplant Feral and be a blow hard.
>the product line wasn't coming out fast enough
I would have bought a Turbokat toy, if you would have giving me the option. I bought T-Bone, I would've gotten razor, I got the video game i would have gotten any other thing too
But in all seriousness Swat Kats is a show that is a good pick for a reboot.
Get a decent studio behind it, keep the writing in that nice balance between being deep enough for an adult to get into it but not complicated enough to fly over the heads of kids. have some season long arc and bam I think you've got something.
Other shows that should get a second shot, Centurions and Inspector Gadget
So how come they never wore shoes, but everyone else did? They were flying a fucking jet barefoot.
Tbone and Razor built this in a junkyard!
Even if they get the entire original team back I'm still not sure a Swat Kats reboot/sequel/whatever would work. As awesome as it is I think it's too much a product of its time and just wouldn't work now.
I'm going to guess Lt. Steel was around because of Politics. Maybe he was related to someone worth a damn and it was good press, which the Enforcers could use a lot of, to keep him around.
I think Feral was a good/great solider. But unlike T-Bone and Razor he had to take orders from an incompetent mayor, deal with politics, and run an entire origination all with equipment made by the lowest bidder. Would have been neat to see him get fired and become a vigilante.
Of course this is all just my own theories/headcanons/whatever.
I disagree there. The swat kats had little of that 90's extreme/stupid that permeated much of the animation landscape back then.
I mean with shows like bots masters, x-men, tiny toons, or captain planet easily date themselves, not so much with Swat kats
All it really needs is an update in animation and maybe a slightly different approach to the plot.
And maybe a tech update? A small example would be Callie's communicator. It wouldn't really fly with cell phones being a big thing now. They could probably change that to either a number she could call or an app.
>Basically this, Feral however selfish ordered them to break off their pursuit of Dark Kat and while arguing, they get shot down, and crash into and destroy the top of the new Enforcers HQ.
Pretty sure Feral is a parallel to the SWAT kats. They're a lot alike except Feral just somehow got to be in charge in a shitty militia
>'m going to guess Lt. Steel was around because of Politics.
I think he was the mayor nephew
>Would have been neat to see him get fired and become a vigilante.
They did that one time he was awesome at it still the same person but no red tape to deal with he got shit done in that episode
Especially the plot, or lack of plot, though to be fare, it's hard to do plot in the format they chose to do the show in, episodic with two show plots every now and then.
Man, I remember being a kid watching Swat Kats, that was my shit back in the day. Another show I was really fond of, but can't remember the name right now, was one of the WB shows that cartoon network used to show like Animaniacs and Freakazoid, but this one was were the dogs of world leaders could transform into super soldiers to fight crime and save the world. Wish I could remember, it was a really good show, but it didn't last too long either.
Kids today don't understand what it's liek to have action in your cartoons.
That's because it's a "BEST jet" thread.
While I'm at it, what did /m/ think of Transformers Cyberton?
>Had 7 engines
>Could carry an drill tank inside of it.
>Carried a two seater motorcycle
>Carried a wide variety of missiles
>Rapid fire cement cannon
>All built from scrap.
Fuck I would kill for a gif of that itano circus scene.
Also posting this image because damn I'd support it.
I still remember all the crazy non lethal or incapacitating ammo the Turbokat had, and most of it was so hilariously roundabout. For being such a violent show for it's time, even with all the explosions and collateral damage, the Swat Kats themselves were surprisingly nonviolent. I think I only remember them using straight up regular bullets like two or three times. And I know they only used regular destructive missiles a few times, because they would usually point it out. I distinctly remember the the button for it was labeled "Plain Ol' Missile".
The Swat Kats were like the exact opposite of Megas XLR, they had a million different ways to NOT blow things up.
gotta go gundam on them, the mass produced turbo kats would have to have at least the speed of heat and the addtional thrusters removed, probably along with the laser that was in the nose cone and the back up vehicles.
Speaking of other enforcers teams, T-bone and Razor would have had to be at the top of their game umongst their peers while in the enforcers.
I'd imagine that would be at least a lead into discovering who they were, just check the Swat kats abilities against a database of your top performing Ex-Enforcers. probably only like a handful of pilots who would even come close
Also an episode with the Swat Kats going against a Rival team they went back and forth with back when they were enforcers would have been awesome.
>I'd imagine that would be at least a lead into discovering who they were
Commander Feral draws from the J. Jonah Jameson school of logic in that the most obvious and easily figured out answer just never comes to him for even a second.
>tfw all but the ones in museums were scrapped to keep the parts from finding their way to Iran, because we were stupid and sold them 'cats back in the day
Feels bad, man.
after watching that I've now confirmed that a F-14 Tomcat will be one of my first traditional military model kits and i will paint it Turbokat colors all the while listening to this when the finishing touches are being done.
>Season 2 into season 1 theme song just works too damn well.
If the show was brought back, do you think they would continue to use the Tomcat or do you think they would update the TurboKat into looking more like a current generation plane?>>11332615
Them Octopus missiles man, always seem to be their go to weapon, even though i think they only work once and that was fatal because they knock the dude out of a skyscraper window.
Because she and Mayor Manx are friends and she doesn't want to backstab him like that. Besides, she already wields all the power in the city and pretty much everyone who matters knows it.
They always knew these people existed, in the 90's they employeed them en mass because they did good work for dirt cheap. But yeah, the sexing up of WB shows was intentional by the animators because most of them were furfags.
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Because Manx just deals with the PR and mundane stuff that Callie doesn't want to deal with.
Or the fact that he's the one who has to address people when the enforcers fuck up and half the city gets nuked. Again.
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The reboot could work if it's Adult Swim. It has to be during a dry year, however, to have the budget (as good as the Thunderkats reboot) it needs to pass. The reason I say Adult Swim is it needs the freedom for the violence the original show dances around. Make one season, 12 episodes, made up of multi-episode plots that dedicate to the villians as both introduction and meaty story. Adult Swim also avoids typical young teen selling points (ie: shipping), because this show brings the 20-somethings who saw the original cartoon. Of course, this is assuming it's a TV run, it could just be an internet show, in which case alot of luck is needed. Anyway, the younger audience will see it anyway.
Unfortunately, swing-wing is a dead-end technology, so there isn't a more advanced swing-wing fighter than the F-14, and there isn't another feline namesake fighter more advanced the F-14. So even a new turbokat will still have to resemble the F-14, but it can always look cooler since it's an original build by T-Bone and Razor.
I recall most episodes indeed show the two giving the bird hanger time.
Here's an idea for a reboot. After enough episodes, make a plot point of Manx dying and Callie swearing in as the new mayor. That puts her under stress, even as far as friction with the Swatkats despite her faith in them. She might even have to make hard decisions against the Swatkats.
This, for all the times his life is in danger and the city is burning, he seems to take it in very good stride and it doesn't affect his health. Hell in the alternate future where the Metallicats took over, he was still the same own Manx even while bring hunted.
I feel for a show like SWAT Katz, the less is more was a good call in how they addressed the violence. If it's an adult swim comic, I could see them doing gratuitous violence just because. (See just about every recent DC animated movie.)
>So even a new turbokat will still have to resemble the F-14, but it can always look cooler since it's an original build by T-Bone and Razor.
I like to think that new Turbokat would probably look something like the new Generations Jetfire. Some F-22 influences combined with the lines of a Tomcat.
So the hypothetical F22 Navy variant that was cancelled in '93?
Sadly im not sure how much varible wings would mess with the stealth but i'd assume quite abit.
Plus its y'know another high maintenance expensive feature on a plane already full of such things
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