Why doesn't Kamille get more shit for this? He could have killed a guy for an incredibly petty reason.
Kamille really comes off as a psycho hot head early in the series. We've seen the Titans do nothing really wrong so far. They're a little rough for dealing with Kamille, but he's the one going around punching people. Early Zeta is just watching some insane kid try to punch and murder people.
Kamille hates the Titans, but it seems to be entirely because they punched him. Although he hates them before that.
I think Tomino over did the "hot head" aspect of Kamille. He didn't want to do Amuro Ray 2.0 I guess.
As edgy as it may sound, shit like this is what I liked about Kamille. I liked that Kamille took no shit and just seemed driven by some psychotic fury whenever something set him off. It was different.
>I liked that Kamille took no shit and just seemed driven by some psychotic fury whenever something set him off. It was different.
We put people like that in insane aslylums.
I find it pretty amusing how Zeta was fairly well liked and ZZ was shit on regularly on /m/ around '09 to '11 or '12 but these last couple years I've seen a total reversal with that (except moon-moon because everyone know just how retarded that was).
It's just sad in my case because I only finished watching Zeta a few weeks ago and now I can't discuss it here without rampant shitposting. Fucking /a/spies with their awful attention spans, I know it's them. Otherwise there wouldn't be as much pedowank surrounding ZZ & Victory.
I've been saying Zeta is a clusterfuck full of retarded characters for years. I also think it gets worse as it goes on, with that stupid Rosamia arc being the lowpoint.
You mean when Kamille has matured enough to sacrifice his emotional needs for the safety of others, even taking the life of somebody he cares for to do so?
Yeah, that part was the worst, I tell you.
You mean the part where Kamille swans off in the middle of a battle to play with his adult imouto by a lake, endangering all his comrades for his own personal side drama?
Yeah, top writing there, I laugh at you.
but you were just complaining about how he was too psycho & crazy for you. and now you're complaining about when he actually shows compassion for someone. He cares about Rosamia because he wants to stop the Titans from doing human experiments, because he saw what happened to Cyber Newtypes like Four.
There's more important things going on in that episode than the drama by the lake with Kamille. His comrades weren't even in danger. Emma and Char put the beat down on those grunts. It's called good directing to allow other pilot characters to get the spot light for action scenes. Don't you like strong female characters like Emma that you can self-insert too?
and I've been saying that you should watch the show.
The Rosamia arc has all the info drops, that's the good writing and world building you love so much. Rosamia's behavior isn't the focus. In-universe everyone realizes she is retarded, that's why they use her to find out more information about the Titans Cyber-enhancement program.
What about that part where Amuro develops a toy-like attachment to the Gundam and abandons the White Base for several days (in enemy territory) after overhearing plans to be taken off it? Did you like that? Because it was a helluva lot dumber than anything Kamille's while in service.
BOY! It sure was cool of Amuro to endanger all his comrades just for the sake of meeting up with Ramba Ral! A Zeke who only pretended to be friendly with him knowing he'd be lead to Amuro's home base, putting them in even further danger!
and that's why Bright was pissed off at him.
the White Base hated him for leaving like that.
and that's why he became a man afterwards with a sense of responsibility and didn't do it again.
that's why it's called character development.
>What about that part where Amuro develops a toy-like attachment to the Gundam and abandons the White Base for several days (in enemy territory) after overhearing plans to be taken off it? Did you like that? Because it was a helluva lot dumber than anything Kamille's while in service.
All fine, because he's a 16 year old middle class suburban kid who's suddenly thrust into a war. He's a bit retarded and he matures. But he's still a kid.
Amuro was one of the more realistic depictions of a teen soldier, especially one who's led a cozy life up until then.
Other shows, like Gundam Wing on the other hand...
But what I'm questioning is how Kamille is a worse character than Amuro. Both develop in similar ways but with Kamille going down the pacifist route and Amuro going down the soldier route.
>But what I'm questioning is how Kamille is a worse character than Amuro.
I don't know if he's worse. He's clearly not normal. Autistic weirdo so maybe he should be judged by different standards.
Boy, what a monotonous thread this is. It's like no one here is able to do actual critical thinking.
Kamille has autism. It's key to his character.
Yeah, I noticed that too. Bright for once is on the recieving end. The weirdest is Kamille's Karate teacher slapping him. Or was he just another student? Seems to take Karate a little too serious.
>Kamille really comes off as a psycho hot head early in the series
That's kinda the fucking point. His time with Char and the Argama crew (as well as Wong) actually tempers him and makes him a calmer person. That is until he goes roundabout and ends up the same kind of person that he was at the beginning.
He's an egomaniacal narcissist who thinks other people are out of line when they lean on him. He disregards people's feelings but expects them to give him attention, and when he thinks someone crosses him he lashes out. It's kinda strange given his family situation, perhaps he feels that he is a self-made man and deserves respect, given a history of neglect on his parents' part.
You could see how different Kamille and Char is. Kamille did not enjoy killing in the battlefield, or even sacrificing civilian for his "ideals".
Maybe Char really need some slapping and especially mother figure.
>He's an egomaniacal narcissist who thinks other people are out of line when they lean on him. He disregards people's feelings but expects them to give him attention, and when he thinks someone crosses him he lashes out.
Well... One of them ends up becoming a potato. The other one dies saving the Earth from a giant asteroid from falling to the earth...
I think we both know who ends up a being a better character...
>That is until he goes roundabout and ends up the same kind of person that he was at the beginning.
Uhh, what? When and how did that happen exactly? I don't remember Kamille being some sort of enlightened psychic super newtype potato in the beginning of the series.
I am at ep19 right now. Kamille has cooled his autism a bit, but I am certain he his actually developmentally impaired. I enjoyed watching him snap into a crazy frenzy over everything.
On another note: While Kamille was crying to Char about his parents dying. I was upset no one pointed out that it was all Kamille's fault it happened.
Kamille's entire call to battle started entirely because some Titan's harassed him and he overreacted. It just so happened that he happen to end up being sympathetic to AEUG in the end.
Because here's the big difference
>FUCK OH GOD I HAVE TO PILOT THE GUNDAM OR EVERYONE DIED! I HAVE NO WHERE ELSE TO RUN TOO AND WHERE STUCK BEHIND ENEMY LINES! FUCK!
>FUCK THE TITANS THEY MADE FUN OF ME! IM GONNA RUN OFF WITH THIS TERRORIST GROUP FOR SHITS AND GIGGLES!
I shouldn't have posted this. In episode 21, he goes right back into overdrive
>kamille punches people randomly for annoying.
>they punch him back
>Then Bright just knocks them all out
The thing about Kamille is, he gets better, but at his core he's still a jerk whose rage swings up and down like a slide whistle at the slightest provocation. And he doesn't overcome this so much as become emotionally deadened by the terrible shit and people around him.
You never had to deal with a fascist regime so of course you wouldn't understand all the repressed rage and anger he has towards titans.
Imagine if a random Argentinian under the military dictatorship responsible for the desaparecidos or a random chilean under Pinochet could have gotten his hands on a Gundam or its equivalent while helped by an anti-government force, wouldn't he try to get revenge with it?
He lives in a "world" where peaceful protests are met with deadly gassings and those very same people are in his home treating him and other people like shit.
>And he doesn't overcome this so much
Sounds like bullshit. He definitely cooled his head down, but this
>become emotionally deadened by the terrible shit and people around him.
is also true.
>That look Char gives him when he says newtypes a shit but he can live with knowing that without worrying about it
It's not terrorism if you have a conventional military like the AEUG and only attack military targets like the AEUG.
Even if there can be collateral damages it's not like those radical groups in the middle east who purposedly kill civilians for shock and terror.
Besides, being a rebel/terrorist against the Titans is the right thing to do considering what Jamitov wanted to do.
Bright was never home when Hathaway was growing up. He's always away on cruise , never ashore for more than a few weeks at a time, so he was an absent figure in Hathaway's childhood.