How would you go about defeating this thing?
You can use any /m/ army you want, only rule is no super robots.
I get the feeling that even a relatively low-tier power level Real Robot army could take on space squids, based on what we see about the machine's specs in-series.
Like the SDF-1 would be like the same thing that fought them off in the show but with better machines.
Actually, Max could solo all the evil space squids.
Man, i think you understimate Chamber's capabilities. That thing can fully DISSINTEGRATE matter with its beams, thats way above uc gundam and valkyries beams/lasers. Rememeber that huge fucking canon the mechaninc repaired? that's 1/50 of Chamber's firepower. And it's shield could easily deflect a shitton of TNT and mosts of strykers attacks. And yet, they're mooks dying on hordes.
with a song
if i can make space whales sing my song i think i can take on a couple of squid
Giant organics in space? Man, who ever would be qualified to take on something like that?
Is Metal Wolf Chaos real-robot enough?
Because I think they're due for a presidential veto.
we'll disguise our warships by covering them with their dead young, and then hute
The only reason that base gave them trouble is that it's parked right next to a star giving it constant energy to feed off of and is constantly pounding their ships in near critical charged particle radiation giving them only one approach route.
Any series capable of star killing could beat it.
And Chamber is also sluggish as all hell. There was all that big drama about Ledo leaving when, if Chamber had a top speed of even a VF-1 he could easily visit Gargantia for lunch now and again. As for UC, everything past the 90s starts ramping up further and further. Beams by Victory era are so strong that they just forget the concept of armor because it's more or less useless.
Oh, well, i haven't watched Frontier, gotta give you that point. Still think Chamber would wreck classic valkyries easily.
The thing about Ledo and the other guys leaving was more about an ideallistic division. His vision was differing of those on Gargantia and therefore he took the decision to take another path because the saw him as an heretic. Also, late UC beams aren't that powerful, is more that grunts got weapons of power that was only reserved for custom/prototype suits like the ZZ. AFAIK, FAZZ's Mega cannon was still the benchmark for MS-mounted beam weapons even by Victory, with only the Zanneck coming close. But on the other hand, they're fragile as fuck. Chamber was just untouchable for common weaponry, while late UC or early valks would get damaged by gattling guns.
>Still think Chamber would wreck classic valkyries easily.
He wouldn't actually,you seem to think his is some hyper advanced tech but it isn't, he is just a GM that was left around steampunk powerloaders, he has laser weapons and a gravity control that he uses only to fly. He only disiintegrated humans who got shoot by a high powered laser, everything else that got hit only exploded at worst
VFs have barriers that warp space itself around them, Guardians when they join together can fly at near light speed and later models can do that alone while also being made of the hardest material in their universe.
>VFs have barriers that warp space itself around them, Guardians when they join together can fly at near light speed and later models can do that alone while also being made of the hardest material in their universe.
Well, excuse me. Which entry are you talking here. I've only watched DYRL and Plus, and the only thing that comes to my mind is the pinpoint barrier, which covers a very small area and leaves a huge area to be hit with any of Chambers' shitton of lasers. And Chamber would tank any of their weapons sans reactor missiles.
The pinpoint barrier is made to cover the whole of the mecha, it's only later that they refine it so you can make a space destroying punch, even oldschool VFs would just need to fly INTO the chamber to kill it
well, i'm talking about classic valkyries here.
If it's just a kinetic attack chamber wouldn't have problem in deflecting it with its barrier. Also it would be very difficult even for Isamu to approach a target which is entirely covered in lasers in each square foot of its area.
>Is this thing impregnable?
Only one way to find out.
Anon it isn't a kinetic attack, Max could just cover himself and fly in a straight line and it would make Chamber stop existing, that is the most basic shit a VF can do, refining it into a punch or a sword like in Frontier is just for the sake of not obliterating everything
Why is it that we always have this arguments about Macross tech with everyone saying and giving fact exposed in the show about how fucking broken the level of the tech is and there is always someone who keeps trying to say they aren't that powerful
By Frontier, their beams somehow run on MDE, the same tech behind their blackhole bombs. So I wouldn't say their beams are weak, pre-MDE, probably around Gundam's level, but after MDE, its on the level of anti-matter weapons.
Holy shit,look at the blue thing on its hand, now imagine that thing covering a a whole plane and said plane going at you at subsonic speeds with its engines of because its hinky dinky VF1, the blue thing makes space wrap and twist around the plane, how is space getting ripped apart a kinetic attack?
>A beam is not.
Depending on your definition of "beam". UC beams are kinetic weapons since their power stems from the kinetic energy of of plasma, specifically, megaparticles.
The punch itself can be stopped
You're assuming Chamber can come into contact with the destruction of the space it exists inside of. This is like a drawing on a piece of paper trying to stop you from from shredding the paper.
>The punch itself can be stopped
Holy shit nigger, look here what happens when something covers itself from head to toe with the fucking barrier and punchs something, the battle fucking ends
You're seriously understimating how fucking powerful the barrier is
aaand you keep posting Frontier tech, which i'm not discussing. Also that thing was just piercing metal, not another barrier
Chamber himself not, but his barrier would prevent that from happening.
>Also that thing was just piercing metal, not another barrier
Are you saying Chamber has a space twisting barrier? Are you high? He does not have any goddamn barrier in the show and what the Fronetier did is something a basic VF can do, look here in the battle between Guld and Isamu, look as the air around the fist starts shimmering
PPB or not, Macross-verse wouldn't really have any issues with the squids.
That thing is a massive cannon? Good, because every colony fleet at least has 1 massive cannon for the sake of Macross-Cannon-ing everything to hell, and from the size of that flower-cannon, it wouldn't be hard to hit it, not to mention graze it(since Macross Cannons fuck everything around the beam as well)
Hell, if anything, the squid cannon would have been destroyed from long range the moment the fleet came in and saw it, if not the cannon, a large portion of the squids would have been annihilated.
Even if the VFs aren't Frontier-level, they wouldn't exactly have much issues, there's a reason why VFs always fire Itano Circuses, they have enough experience of being outnumbered, why take down 1 enemy when you can take down 5 or more with a single salvo of missiles? Why use semi-auto guns when you can just point a gatling gun in the general direction of the enemy and kill 5 of them with the inaccurate spray of bullets?
Besides, if they really want to annihilate the squids, they could just put all their manufacturing facilities to shitting out Ghosts while the fleet is parked next to a large asteroid and just launch them straight out of the production line.
DID SOMEONE SAY BIG TENTACLE THINGS
COLONEL DEWEY KNOWS HOW TO DEAL WITH THOSE