>>12404181 >beam rotors are genius. Beam rotors are fucking nuts Best part is that they can be weapons, Shields, propulsion mechanisms, they're a multitool
Think of it like this: They create a minovsky particle lattice to do shenanigans with particles and keep their machines afloat. They just look like physical rotors, they work NOTHING like them. Also, any solution that allows flight is amazing. You might be forgetting, MOBILE SUITS DON'T FLY IN UC The only exceptions are the Gouf Flight Type (explosion waiting to happen), Byalant (FUUUUUUUUEEEELLLLL GLUG GLUG GLUG), and suits with MA modes, which are overall less efficient in MA mode compared to normal MS. It wasn't until Zanscare created the Beam Rotor that mass produced MS flight was even possible. Of course, Anaheim was the first to TRULY perfect the concept with the mass produced V Gundam's Minovsky Flight System.
So yeah, Beam Rotors are actually really cool, plus I dig the aesthetic. Now, wheels? THE WHEELS ARE FUCKING RETARDED.
Is Tomino not familiar with nuclear propulsion and Kawamori's mecha?
Mobile suits have fusion reactors. Which means they have tremendous heat source that last for years. All mobile suits should be able to fly in atmosphere for years at a time. Simply by having jet engines that take in air, heat with with heat from the reactor, and use the hot air to generate thrust. The way Valkyries do in Macross.
>nuclear jet engines are a thing in real life too.
>>12404287 >All mobile suits should be able to fly in atmosphere for years at a time. Just because Mobile suits have nuclear fusion reactors doesn't mean they use nuclear jet engines. The fusion reactors just give the suits enough power to move and use the various sub-systems. The thrusters on mobile suits probably just use standard rocket propellant. If MSes did have nuclear jet engines, they wouldn't be able to function in space.
>>12404449 see that is the beauty of nuclear jets. when in space you close the intake and just use any gas on hand as propellant. now of course space flight is limited by the amount of propellant you have.
The Gundam Wing Aries Mobile Suit is a good example. Even though they didn't operate in space.
>>12404449 >The thrusters on mobile suits probably just use standard rocket propellant. Yep, that's confirmed for Early UC tech. Furthermore, Balls use solid-fuel propellant while MS use liquid-fuel propellant.
>>12404449 That's what he's saying. He's saying that's dumb He's saying that they could use the waste heat from the reactors for an air ram, which is a real thing that you can actually do, to not have to use rockets with propellant. You don't use the reactor to "power" an air ram, it's not a power-intensive system, it uses WASTE HEAT for propulsion.
Keep in mind that they aren't functioning like actual rotors. They are not generating forward pull when they spin. What is actually happening is that they create a minovsky craft like effect where a cushion of particles takes some of the weight off the MS, allowing them to conserve fuel and fly easier. This is why they can have the rotor facing forward without actually being pulled forward, even in midair.
Basically, it's a cheapo minovsky craft that doubles as a beam shield.
>>12404287 >Which means they have tremendous heat source that last for years The problem is the power figures for MS reactors are miniscule, the fucking original Gundam had a reactor output of only 1.38 kW which is barely more than a fucking P-51, much less a modern fighter. You can't make a 50 ton robot fly with such a pathetic power source.
>>12407011 It sure seems to be one-shotting the quadrupeds he's fighting rather handily, and causing massive explosions besides. Why would he waste bigger gun ammo when his smaller gun works just fine? Or does the beam rifle have less ammo than the cannons?
>>12407067 No. They're able to regain or sustain altitude easily when they position themselves upright or cruise around, which we see them do when fighting the Asshimer (first time IIRC, when Amuro shows up). Point is, they're able to sustain their altitude. The thrusters are simply powerful enough to do it.
The issue is that in combat is that they can't sustain that position as seen in the Mk-II vs Gaplant (Rosamia). Kamille and Rosamia had to upright themselves to gain altitude because they would lose it while upside down or moving horizontally. It's about thruster position.
>>12407215 That's only in combat. You're effectively saying jets can't fly and are only performing sustained jumps because they lose altitude when their nose is down and have to position themselves properly to gain or sustain altitude.
>>12407233 Except a mobile suit is not an aerodynamic body. Like a rocket, all it can do is burn fuel to offset its weight by brute force. Winged aircraft can glide in the air, so it isn't just a dead lift.
>>12407233 meant assisted jumps. In any case, the point is they've already demonstrated they CAN fly - sustain altitude while moving horizontally. Their acrobatic maneuvers simply force them to lose altitude or gain it, same as a plane.
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