Tonight [Adult Swim] ran a bump featuring Mobile Suit Gundam... What does it all mean?
Think Banrise finally coughed up the broadcast rights? Or is it nothing?
Its possible we might get something. Toonami hasn't been shy about admitting they want a Gundam series on the block.
That said, there is no reason to get hopeful yet. As said, its entirely possible that nothing will happen.
Their options aren't bad right now either.
They need something at least recent-ish.
Wing can coast on Nostalgia factor, 00 is capable of running well since it's Syfy run was barely advertised and died off as soon as it ended.
Unicorn and Origin are also a possibility since they ran Hellsing Ultimate.
I'd rather see Kamille become a veggie.
Mostly because the Staff got high off of basically becoming the kings of late night Saturday and blew way more money than they will ever admit on SnK then when they learned the fanbase is so cancerous they care for their show and ONLY their show.
Fortunately they wised up and started milking the shit out of DBZ and KLK, they're also premiering the SAOII Dub which normies got apeshit for so it's raking in the money.
Yeah, as much as I have fond memories of Toonami, I'm only half-watching it, doing other shit while it's on in the background. I don't even know why I still have a TV or cable to be honest.
I'm still mad that AS cut the block in half for more fucking Seth McFarlane bullshit though. There's no way that brings more ratings at the very late night timeslot.
>also G-Reco would flow well since it's insane enough to fit Toonami's style
that would be nice.
>mfw the bullet comes out of the Ethernet jack
Dumbest shit I've ever seen.
Well, if anyone recalls the thread about that Sunrise panels recently, Sunrise wants G-Reco to get a release over here.
I actually like AoT, but the fanbase truly is terrible. Well, more so the anime fanbase.
Ocean Group could do it. Look at Black Lagoon, they can do accents and nail it.
It really is fucking retarded, but hey, if it keeps Toonami from dying I'm all for it.
Looking forward to the Second Intruder though, we finally get some TOM Exploits.
It's because they're too afraid of going beyond their normal Shonen shit even though they've had proof that getting darker and more age appropriate shit like Hellsing and Black Lagoon are money makers.
Guy goes apeshit over a guy trolling people into making a bad build idea in an MMO that won't let you respec your character's stats, so he teams up with a guy to kill people that slights him.If I remember, I gave up on trying to remember everything about the thing until Toonami said they were getting it. Let's just say the Grim Reaper still has no idea what's going on.
no more Ye not Guilty, no more space cowboy, no more Symbionic Titan, no more Jack
Really? Because I'm under the impression that G-Reco is getting put on Gundaminfo now because their talks with (I'm willing to bet a PG Unicorn) Funimation fell through.
G-Reco would fit Toonami but I know Demarco the current head of Toonami is a Turn-A fanboy and wants it on Toonami.
>Looking forward to the Second Intruder though, we finally get some TOM Exploits.
Forgot all about that. Definitely looking forward to it too. Do we know when its supposed to happen?
They forget to mention that those things are made for everyone who reads/watches the thing and to make excuses for expensive figures for the easy spenders to dump their money on. And Fairy Tail shouldn't count anymore since it's borderline porn now.
to be fair that's most anime
elevator orgy doujin when?
They really do. The only thing they hate more are anime -fans- and their questions.
Hence thy had that one bump that was a Venn diagram of "Questions we will answer" "questions we won't answer" and way out in the corner "questions about anime". Or the other one.
> No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No.
> Just getting our answers ready for the anime fans
Truly annoying. But we're finally getting official X and Victory Releases and I am fucking glad about that.
If they hated Anime they wouldn't have brought back fucking Toonami, or kept the Saturday Anime block running since it moved to Saturdays.
Is it dubbed?
It's more because they were forced with stipulations to air SnK at the start of the block. Which bit them in the ass because at least you had to be there for two hours for SAO so they got those viewers since it's easier to just watch through the block than try and stay awake doing something else then watching that.
Mostly because they get the same questions, especially about subs. They aren't AMC or TCM, they can't air shit with subs because their demographic isn't that big on reading, since the ones that can, would end up just dling off the internet or streaming it elsewhere.
>If they hated Anime they wouldn't have brought back fucking Toonami, or kept the Saturday Anime block running since it moved to Saturdays.
Well, the difference between the people running AS and the people running CN is that at least the people in charge of AS won't fully sacrifice ratings just because they don't like the stuff.
Why would any of you ever want Gundam to get big in the west again? Think about it, it would be like how comic book fans feel about normies pretending they know everything based on the movies and push away the real fans from the medium. Gundam getting big would be awful
And if its for muh cheap gunpla, do you think they'd even seel sizable amounts in the west. Barely anyone here has the patience to build gunpla and even less to do it right. all you'll end up is fucked up kits with nubs and shit everywhere being paraded around like they mean something. Gunpla would bartely be sold in amounts higher than today if it got big. There is literally no reason to want Gundam to have more exposure than it already does
Do you remember the time the AoT fans bitched about the OP being cut for the first episode?
It's not like they have the attention span to actually watch the whole show.
That happens with any fucking medium and don't pretend otherwise. Tertiary fans are not a problem as long as they don't become the target demographic because PG-13 movies can more cash due to allowing more people to see it.
Have you really gone so far up your ass that you can't hear the news?
Gunpla's already getting big again, so much so that Barnes and Noble's starting to have sales to clear room for more merchandise.
Plus I'd like to be able to get the Extreme Vs here in the states without having to pay import and shipping.
Yeah it does but by preventing gundam from getting any larger we wouldnt have to deal with an influx of tertiaries. Hearing people talk about gundam but being so misinformed and getting shit wrong, along with fucked up gunpla being posted on the internet would be bad. Gundam is better left in Japan where its appreciated to its fullest.
A few wing kits that they carry isnt indicative of it getting bigger. Barnes & Noble happens to carry some niche stuff. Its best to keep it that way. Paying a little bit more for gunpla is a reasonable sacrifice to the rape of the franchise
I just want a new show that isn't hyped to shit and also not nearly as much talking, which is what SAO2 is turning out to be and why is it called SAO2 since SAO is only mentioned because people died in it? Is it because all these new "online" games use it as a reference point? And why are MMOs given the designation of Online in their name? So why bother with it, unless there's a single player version of each of those games?
The only time gunpla has ever been bigger in the US is when gundam was airing on toonami and gunpla could be ought at walmart and toysRus.
I don't think it will ever reach that level in the states again, but its common to see them at hobby shops now (Prices seem to have gone down a little at the decent ones since BF aired as well), it's cheap on amazon and their warehouses carry them, and we have an official distributor and company that holds out national GBWC.
Gundam airing on a late night block on Saturday isn't going to make it suddenly explode in popularity to the point where everyone is talking about it and it can be found easily at department stores again.
>Plus I'd like to be able to get the Extreme Vs here in the states without having to pay import and shipping.
As much as I would like this too, the other anon has a point. Nothing ever goes well when things get too popular. Question is what is Gundam's popularity ceiling here in the west and will is adversely effect the longtime fans in some way?
I've met a good amount of people who like Gundam already who are in weeb circles in my college, and they're always the most bearable or good people strangely enough.
Gentle/m/en, what we really need to worry about is if AS airs SEED Remaster. That will undoubtedly be a disaster for any Gundam focused communities. I wouldn't put it past them either since SEED would go hand in hand with shit like AoT and Shit Art Online. As long as it is anything but SEED I don't think the impact will be big enough to ruin anything though.
It depends on where the fansub is getting their script. Since why anyone would use the Crunchyroll subs is beyond me at times, though at least they aren't subs commissioned by Sony, like how Xam'd had it's subs really fucked by whoever was translating and encoding it.
>After Toonami had to drop it because the last story arc was too much editing for the dubbing company
I remember those disco guns. I don't like it.
Still want Destiny for the normal people reactions and Lunamaria.
Because it's based off the "Sword art online" light novel series, which holds that title through all the arcs. The "2" is because it's just the second season of the same series and continues following the novels. And it's "online" because they are all MMOs.
Not going to happen. Last time Toonami aired Seed it bombed hard in the ratings and they hated it because of all the editing they had to do to get it on TV (Which won't be as much of a problem on the modern toonami). Seed is the series currently airing when gundam died in the west. Thinking they would air Seed as the first gundam series on the new toonami block is like thinking that they'd air SD force.
My bet is G-reco, the original movie trilogy across three weekends, or Unicorn across several weeks.
FUCKING FINALLY, that's what Bandai of America told the suits in Japan to let them do since they had that, and the animation was infinitely better than MSG itself and it would have been over before 9/11 even caused them to stop airing it.
Because I'm a /m/etalhead and love gundam ever since I saw it on toonami, I've got over 200 of the 4.5 gundam figures they released, and then bam it was gone, forgotten.
I want those days back damn it, I work 50+ hours a week with nothing to look forward to than my bitch of an ex wife and alimony and depression.
Goddamnit anon, don't take this from me too!
They aired a couple of gundam series after that. Seed was at the end when popularity was already dying and it failed spectacularly.
Funny enough, it's now one of the more popular gundam series in the west among anime fans.
People think gundams super robot over here for one go to cons and you will see.
>even "00 fans"
The Eva and code geass fan bases will still be larger to normalfags here. For example we only have a lot of fujoshi for build fighters and wing and they don't find gundam appealing outside of those.
But we will get more seed, 0083, and 00 faggatory.
I think they made it to when Kira found out he was the Perfect Coordinator and that Rau was a clone that was quickly dying a painful death. Then it was moved to the [as] anime block and finished there with blood and gore for the last bit. I remember [as] airing the first episode of Candidate Pilot Goddess and my TV guide misnaming it Gundam.
>defending cr and horrible subs
Seed wasn't moved to AS. It was moved to a dead timeslot at like 1 or 2 am on friday nights back before AS was on Fridays. CN basically just played reruns of stuff like Power puff girls and dexters lab late friday nights back then iirc
You're an idiot. Every outlet recently that's actually taken the time to properly push gundam stuff has made a profit and gotten decent sales, often better than expected. This isn't 2001 anymore where the franchise had only been heard of in the US for a single year.
Gundam never "died" in the west. It merely exited the traditional TV market as the internet's impact grew. SEED was heavily edited and poorly handled when it aired, in ways far more obnoxious than Wing, so naturally it wasn't going to be as well received. And CN also treated it poorly to begin with.
0079 was never going to be popular on Toonami after Wing. I love it to death, but they should've aired the movies and jumped into Zeta/ZZ or jumped right into X. Those would have done better.
G on the other hand did reasonably well.
SD Gundam force was a mistake, of course.
But even beyond that, Gundam has continued to have a dedicated and growing online presence here. The franchise "shrank" to its core fanbase, but that same fanbase grew rapidly along with online availability. /m/ itself is one aspect of this.
Put on the RIGHT show with a GOOD dub? And it can still do reasonably well. Re-airing 00 wouldn't be terrible. AGE isn't ideal, but might do okay. G-Reco's kind of weird but it'd make me happy to see. Gundam Unicorn and Origin would be prime candidates for the network as specials.
Hell, if someone would dub them, X and Turn A could 'still' air and do reasonably well now. Especially if they follow a new Wing airing.
They need ratings to make a profit. So they either pick shows that are "mainstream" and thus pretty much garunteed ratings, or less popular shows whos license they can pick up for cheap to fill a timeslot between popular shows.
They also posted this gif to their tumblr a few hours ago.
Guess we are going to see 0079 aired on Toonami then. I'm all for that, it's a classic and even the weebs that watch Toonami for shit like kill la kike and stream anime should get the opportunity to see it.
Also I know I'm not the only one, but I was saying this YEARS ago: the 0079 trilogy would have been Toonami's best bet at showcasing the original, while taking minimal losses in ratings, and simultaneously creating an genuinely interested UC fan base. If this had happened back in 2001, they could have played it off as a kind of special event, generate interest in DVD sales of the actual series, and continue to show other marketable AU series (G, X, then, at the time, SEED), while maybe sidelining the OVAs to future weekly special event broadcasts.
maybe we can get a sequel to shin mazinger if it becomes successful in the US
>the original movie trilogy across three weekends
If they want to pursue this, this might be the time to pursue a new dub for it.
Because holy shit, that dub would fly with the Toonami crowd like the proverbial lead zeppelin.
The movie trilogy is HIGHLY unlikely. A lot of you seem to be forgetting that the dub has been out of print for 15 years and had a subpar translation. Tonnami NEVER airs subtitled programming and Bandai clearly does not have confidence in the dub as being representative of the original work. It's not happening, not without a redub (though to be fair I CAN see Blum as Char fitting pretty well on Toonami).
If we're getting the original Gundam again (and that is IF it even is the original) then it will almost certainly be the TV series. It would serve to promote both the RightStuff release and The Origin anime while potentially having the required boost from the success of the manga's localization.
The voice acting on half the shows that Toonami airs are already total shit. The dub in the movie trilogy isn't great, but it's not shit-tier quality either. Hell, half the anime they show on Toonami has shittier dubs than that trilogy.
>but Trigger skipped the phase of which when Gainax was good
This isn't your standard issue 'bad dub' though.
This is a painfully dated bad dub, riddled with clunky translation, some jaw-droppingly stupid phrases, and the old 'write in lines where there's no one talking' trick.
The best response you could expect would be them finding it funny as Hell in a 'bad movie throwback' sort of way.
Which is prettymuch the last thing they're going to want in a bid to revive Gundam.
I actually think the movie dub is above average on the basis of sheer performance quality. The problem is the script. Gun-damn, roboton invaders, laser swords, Shaa Aznable, lull destruction, etc. I won't say that I would take a recent Toonami dub over something like this (because I wouldn't), but even SAO fans would find it cheesy and off putting.
Remind me again what Trigger did wrong besides get really popular very quickly?
I mean, besides /m/'s policy of hating anything that is popular and aired recently with the force of a thousand extremely whiny suns.
Well kill la kill isn't all that good but that's basically it.
They also made INFERNU COPPU so as far as I'm concerned it balances out.
I don't think KLK is funny.
It's creative, but I don't think it's funny. I just didn't care about it. Has nothing to do with other people or being a prude about fanservice, I just didn't find it funny and a show like that will only work if you find it amusing. It just didn't do anything for me and I found it outright obnoxious.
Aside from LWA and Inferno Cop, they haven't done anything else really and KLK is the bulk of their resume so right now it's a bit difficult for me to feel confident in their abilities. That's all I have against Trigger. I hope they make something better sometime soon because they're wasting their potential.
/m/ is like /a/ in that they're both hipster about these types of things. When something is popular elsewhere it gets shit on a lot here because it's getting a lot of attention.
Trigger was formed primarily by the "good" staff of gainax who made several of their more popular series, so a studio made up of those people was getting a good amount of attention.
I just find it kind of funny that gainax has basically died after putting out a couple mediocre adaptations since they split and don't care past that.
>Well kill la kill isn't all that good but that's basically it.
Kill la Kill was fun to watch even if subjectively beyond that factor it isn't very good. IT just happened to know that, and cranked that particular factor as high as it could go. And if you don't find it fun then there's fuck-all for the show to offer.
I am extremely sure that if it wasn't so popular it'd have probably a warm welcome, and at worst a lukewarm one.
Let's face it, if /a/ and the filthy casual plebeians suddenly decided that, say, Gunbuster was the best thing in the world and reacted generally in the same fashion as an extremely popular currently airing show, /m/ would turn on it faster than you can say "super and real robot are not valid terms".
>when something is popular elsewhere it gets shit on here
You know that the most-discussed series on /m/ is Gundam, right? Evangelion is a close second or third. By your logic, /m/ thinks that both are flaming piles of shit that should be ignored and shitposted into oblivion.
And yet we just can't seem to stop talking about them at great length.
>And yet we just can't seem to stop talking about them at great length.
By that logic Destiny is /m/'s favorite gundam. That and I have yet to see a single gundam thread that didn't get a healthy dose of shitposting.
Have you seen an Evangelion thread in the last twenty years? 95% of Evangelion posts are bitching and whining about it and how if Evangelion didn't exist then 9/11 wouldn't have happened and cancer would be cured.
Gundam gets a pass because it's the biggest fish in the pond, the bulk of the generally positively received content is in the eighties and early nineties, which automatically gives it a boost on /m/, and it's where all of the model kits are at. Plus the non-OVA UC stuff besides Unicorn is all by one director.
Look at 00. More modern, more popular for a general audience, bitterly contested on /m/ and particularly reviled by the people who don't like it even when it adds up to a good first season and a mediocre second season.
Fun is just a buzzword for when you don't have anything good to say about the anime.
This just in: your enjoyment of something is based on whether or not you enjoy it. If you do not enjoy it, you will not find it enjoyable. Lead scientists startled by this revelation.
Honestly, the fact that Inferno Cop is a lolsorandom show that actually DOESN'T fuck up that formula like so many shows do is a testament that it was a good show.
Forgettable sure, but still good.
I always hate that phrase, "turn your brain off".
Just because a show is dumb fun, doesn't mean you have to debase yourself in enjoying it. Hell Patrick Stewart loves Beavis and Butthead.
>Fun is just a buzzword for when you don't have anything good to say about the anime.
Skateboarding is fun.
I don't know why I have fun doing it, I just do,
I guess people say enough stupid things on /n/ that what I thought was obvious sarcasm flies under the radar
>Have you seen an Evangelion thread in the last twenty years?
>In longer than the entire lifetime of 4Chan
Yes, actually, I have. In fact, I've seen at least two Evangelion threads this last week.
>Look at 00, more modern and bitterly contested
>even when it adds up to a good first season and a mediocre second season
That's the opinion of the majority of the people on /m/, Anon. Most people found 00's first season to be alright, and the second to be much worse. The implication you're making is that 00 is modern and geared toward a broader audience, and that somehow makes it bad. I'm guessing it may not have crossed your mind that the way they try to appeal to a broader audience could bring down the quality of the series.
Oh, by the way, the main complaint about 00 S2 is that they tried to pander too hard to the audience by doing everything the audience want. Think about that.
Your problems is that, for some reason, you assume that shitposting has more worth that posts that aren't shitposting, and therefore assume that /m/ hates all popular shows because all popular shows have shitposting. All shows have shitposting.
On the note of "appealing to general audiences," I would argue that 0080 is the Gundam installment most appealing to general audiences, while also being the most praised installment here on /m/.
>0080 is the Gundam installment most appealing to general audiences
I'm not sure I follow you on this one. It's by far the most talking and character oriented entry in the franchise. Maybe I'm wrong, but I'd think that wouldn't appeal to general fans looking for robots in their robot anime.
>0080 is character-oriented
>I'm not sure that would appeal to general audiences
Most shows are, Anon. I mean, shows like Friends aren't exactly known for hot-blooded action sequences and shit. Comedy and characters.
It's the most approachable Gundam because it doesn't rely on the franchise. You can jump into it without knowing a thing, and it's the kind of story that you could absolutely see come out of Hollywood. While trying to think of an example Eagle Eye came to mind, since it was mostly about developing characters with pivotal action sequences at the peak.
General fans want explosions and pew pew, with good characters to watch.
Actually, you never realize why the colony was in as much danger if you don't watch the series. Still wanted to see what kind of bullshit Amuro could pull out of the Alex for the final battle if he got it in time.
we all want to see what amuro would have done in the alex, but some dreams aren't meant to be. Just imagine amuro in the Zeong fight with the forearm vulcans.
This, and my friends refused to watch it after hearing the word "Newtype". They thought it would spoil them or something.
They also called Al pedobait because of his short-shorts but I can't defend that.
>You never realize why the colony was in as much danger if you don't watch the series.
>Cyclops Team is here to blow up the prototype enemy weapon!
>IF WE DON'T ACCOMPLISH OUR MISSION, THEY'LL NUKE THIS WHOLE COLONY!
>"We're going to nuke that colony so they won't get their hands on the prototype."
>"But Bernie, muh colony!"
>"Damnit. They'll blow up the whole colony if I don't destroy the enemy prototype!"
Because Americans totally wouldn't understand that concept. I mean, it's not like that and similar ideas ever appear in Hollywood flicks all the time, right?
Bonus: That's basically the plot of Metal Gear Solid.
I'll sort of give you that one, but most people would just assume that that's some sort of technobabble.
>Would it have gone to Sayla?
Assuming that White Base retained possession of the Gundam, I'd say that's a fair assumption. Sayla actually piloted it before, and she'd gotten a lot of experience in the core fighter.
It would be her or the Guncannon pilots, but I'd lean toward her getting the Gundam because they already had dedicated pilots for the Guncannon and Guntank and retraining them at that point would be a pain.
Char would have been shredded, decompressed and boiled alive for not wearing a normal suit? And Lalah wouldn't have died. And Kycilia wouldn't have died at Char's hands. She presumably takes the helm of Operation Stardust. Titans are formed with much greater strength than the TV series. Quattro never teaches Kamille, hindering his progress, and never gives the Dakar speech. If Titans are still defeated by EF/AEUG, Haman comes back on Axis but never gets surprised by seeing Char. CCA and Unicorn don't exist and are instead replaced by the Earth Federation being really, really corrupt until F91/Victory when they lose power.
I want to make a job john joke here really bad, but the obvious answer is Kai moves up to the gundam. In a perfect world they just ship kai a mudrock and Hayato gets the gundam.
You forget that they never really point out why they Alex is SUPER IMPORTANT and needs to get finished in time or protected. That and even though the OYW is barely referenced, they do mention an event or two that happens in MSG. Not saying 0080 doesn't require seeing MSG to fully understand, but it has some things that put people off because they don't know or never get it explained. And saying it's the plot of Metal Gear Solid is ignoring the fact that Bernie is actually on the side of the "bad" guys trying to get the so called prototype weapon from the "good" guys then when the team is wiped out, he tries to save the colony from his side from nuking them. Your parallels are not even skin deep anon.
>Hayato in the Gundam
That's a bad idea and you know it. He can stick to Guntank where he belongs and Sayla can take the Gundam. Fraw or Ryu's ghost or Bright can pilot Guncannon or something, nobody would care because the war would be about over by that point.
I don't know I just don't quite trust giving the Sayla the gundam after her brief stent with it on earth. Even with he work in the core booser and g-armor taken into account. I'd always leave her in a support unit.
By the end she was a Newtype, I'm sure she could have figured it out. Besides, the group dynamic really works well when you have the leader, the rookie, and the comedian instead of the leader, the comedian, and the shorty.
I won't deny that the reasoning is vague, but for most people the implication that the Alex is a serious threat to Zeon is more than enough to get the point across. It's a threat that's serious enough that they would nuke a whole colony to destroy it. That means they're pretty fucking scared of it.
So yes, it's a bit vague, and seeing MSG does help. Having aspects that are off-putting because they're not explained though? Then watch MSG, and there won't be a problem. If anything, a person who gave enough shits to wonder about the details that are never given would want to see MSG as a result.
>Your parallel ignores that Bernie is the bad guy!
He's not the bad guy. If Al wasn't the protagonist, Bernie would be. He's not the 'bad guy', he's a soldier.
>Your parallels are not even skin deep
My parallel was over that part of the plot, and not a general comparison of the two. Both Bernie and Snake are tasked with destroying the enemy weapon, or their government will use nuclear weapons to destroy it and everyone else there.
That was always the parallel, so I don't know what to tell you. Are you on the drugs, Anon?
In her defense, her brief stint in the Gundam had her fighting enemies that Amuro could barely fight.
I'd be happy if they showed AGE.
Only on /m/ would you see the level of delusion that WANTS 0079 to air on Toonami. The people who watch Toonami would hate it. Toonami stuff needs to have a modern look and be edgy enough for American fans. Look at Kek la Kek. I don't hate the show by any means but one of the reasons it was successful was because of how it looked.
I think it'll be a reairing of Wing (but now in HD). That would draw the most attention (HEY DO YOU GUYS REMEMBER GUNDAM WING). Then follow it up with 00 or SEED remaster.
I mean, there's really no good way to go about this. IT's such a behemoth of a franchise, half the ones you could sell to kids require knowledge of a poorly-budgeted series from 1979 to care about
By today's standards, Wing is only barely less dated looking than the 0079 movies. I mean, the Wing Gundam looks like a fucking megazord. Plus it is a far less enjoyable viewing experience for people who actually do decide to check it out.
>Toonami people need modern shit!
You do realize that Toonami is the same block that plays stop-motion comedies that can barely get past shit-tier jokes on a good day, right?
If any audience can put up with MSG, it's Toonami specifically. They're used to seeing completely horrible quality, which MSG is far from being.
Only if by "remastered" you mean, "we sped up the action and bumped the contrast up as high as it could go!"
This is one of the reasons why we need a TV series of The Origin. A already far better done version of the original story, and it's events and characters, done in modern animation is something that would create boatloads upon boatloads of new converts to UC Gundam and Sunrise just leaves the money on the table.
inb4 >b-but it's something we've already seen a million times!!!
Fuck right off with that bullshit, if you've actually read the manga you wouldn't be saying that.
Not a reairing of wing, a whole new show. An adaptation of Glory of the Losers, a joint production by Cartoon Network and Sunrise
>Hell Patrick Stewart loves Beavis and Butthead.
As an addendum here, he's probably one of the best parts of American Dad, and that's partially care of playing a character who's basically a psychotic hedonist version of himself.
That image is disgusting. Have a new one.
Looks like more charges for the buster.
>trying to dub perfection
I would rather die