I don't know, the fight scene on the train set with Yellowjacket about to be hit by a train as dramatic music plays then zooming out to show it in a wider focus with no music was pretty hilarious I thought, along with one or two other bits. The choreography and use of growing in fights looks good too. And while the music is kind of annoyingly aggressive the trailer has made me look forward to the film. I do hope Ant-Man gets Yellowjacket's lasers in a sequel or something though - they're cool.
>>12438072 I'm on /co/, but there's really no similarity. Ant-Man shrinks and grows. Kabuto slows down time. That's like saying that 300 was influenced by Kamen Rider Kabuto.
Ant-Man's got no Kamen Rider influences that I can see. All of the things that you could call an influence are directly from the comics. The belt being the controller for his shrinking and growing? That's been around since the 1960s. Helmet? 1960s. Riding things? 1960s. Useless female sidekick? 1960s.
Well. Maybe not useless in the films, but it took the Wasp 20 fucking years to nut up and put the daddy pants on.
Casuals on /co/ and other places are gonna get hyped because 'muh Cumon Rider references'. But, really, the guys who made the movie probably know as much about Kamen Rider as Ishinomori knew about Ant-Man. Let's just enjoy the similarities and not try to make up imaginary links.
>>12439319 I'm sure they're gonna introduce her later, say that she was miniaturized so small that she entered the microverse, which was a plot element in Ant Man/Wasp stories anyway. They always introduce the main character first anyway before they introduce the sidekick.
Really? It's pretty good example to me of why Doom is a boring villain. He no-sells everything just to walk over to his throne and sit down. That isn't exciting, to me at least, it's just dull. I'll take a villain who has to sweat that shit over someone like Doom who is prepped to all hell for every possible contingency any day. And then when he loses he didn't actually lose because Doombot.
I can already tell my autism is gonna be triggered something fierce when the movie is out. The physics in this movie makes no fucking sense, especially when that guy gets punched out by tiny antman like he was being punched by a big invisible fist
>>12439411 Well, look - I have a special place in my heart for invincible, unbeatable pillar man type enemies, because it's so much more impressive when they go down. But there's good and bad ways to do it, and it can get old quick. I actually think the best villains are just protagonists. As in, people you can understand, people you can root for, who are equal 1:1 with the protagonist, maybe even have the same abilities as them.
But really there's a good and bad way of handling every concept. No matter how good an idea is it depends on execution.
That's rarely true in my opinion. Usually it comes off more as "welp, time's running out, better remove the villain's plot armor" and then "oh look, now all our attacks are beating him to hell where they weren't even tickling him before" or the villain just stops countering stuff for no real reason.
>>12439583 >oh look, now all our attacks are beating him to hell where they weren't even tickling him before" or the villain just stops countering stuff for no real reason.
That's what I consider handling it badly
I mentioned Jojo for a reason. It's definitely not the pinnacle of writing or anything, but that "Utterly Invincible Enemy" was handled pretty well for the most part in Part 2, especially the ending. Hell, the final bossvjuat ISN'T beaten - he's just pushed faaaaar away
Maybe it's a bad example though. Part 3 is what you described, part 4 was handled well, part 5 is maximum deus ex machina, part 6 was a ridiculous Phyrric Victory, part 7 was the same.
>>12439665 Ant-Man has more range (his antennae can fire small energy discharges), shrink smaller (Atom can go sub-atomic, Ant-Man can shrink into different realities), and is stronger (At first he was only as strong as he usually was when he shrank. Later, he picked up legit super strength when he got smaller.).
Atom's good, but Ant-Man's better in every conceivable way. Except maybe mental stability. >>12439474 >>12439447 Doom is really hard to get right.
Cause it's not a very cool, inspiring to iconic name? Atom is pretty cool, Wasp is pretty cool, Ant-Man not so much. It also conjures some of the same problems as Aquaman has, as in "Oh, that guy who can speak to fish - scaaaary!".
>>12439713 The thing is Superman and Batman are so well known and storied as badassses no one thinks about the name. Similar with Spider-man, plus ya know, spiders are their own thing. Iron too, with things like the song and those ironman competitions.
Ant-man, people think of ants and it sounds goofy. I bet most would say he's a spidey knock-off.
>>12439719 It's up to them to define Ant-Man as an iconic name. He's invented his own particles, was a founding Avenger before Cap even joined, built the first artificial intelligence, and has had two successors to his name. Just because normalfags scoff at his name shouldn't mean Marvel, the trendsetter in this situation, should follow suit.
>>12439525 it actually doesn't matter if she's a mutant, she first appeared in an Iron Man comic so she's not counted under those restrictions(helps that she's never really associated with the X-Men despite being a Mutant), I could easily see Squirrel Girl being used by Disney if they decide to adapt any other Marvel properties like they did Big Hero 6
>>12442307 >they revealed that Magneto wasn't actually their father. So who is now? Also, where do they get their powers from if they aren't mutants? Did they just go back to that golden age speed guy being their father?
>>12442345 >Who is their father? It is a mystery that probably won't be solved before the reboot. >If they aren't mutants, what are they? Inhumans, which have become "Mutants we can use in OUR movies" instead of the former society of alien experiments they once were.
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