New Devilman anime slated for Fall 2015.
Will be handled by Studio Actas (Kotetsushin Jeeg, Mazinkaiser SKL, Girls Und Panzer)
SKL had less overt art & animation fuck-ups than Jeeg, but Jeeg still looked better. The designs took more positive inspiration from 70s Dynamic Pro art and the action was more excitingly storyboarded.
>Ctrl+F "dated" in the MAL and leddit and other anime news sites threads
Goodbye /m/. The Dynamic Dream is dead and soon, so too shall I. Let us meet again, some day, in the sea of stars.
Probably some early concept art. It's very Ishikawa-like, yeah.
"Dated" as used by anime fans is basically "I can tell that this is old or based on an old work by looking at the art style, ergo it is inferior"
Because making Devilman look like No Game No Life would make it objectively better I guess.
What if this is actually going to be an adaptation of the original manga? I mean, there seems to be a trend as of late of adapting old shonen manga. Hunter x Hunter, Jojo, Ushio & Tora is coming out...
On the other hand, I don't think many channels would allow a graphic scene of a dude holding a 10 year old boy's decapitated, bleeding head while grinning maniacally. Maybe there would be lots of "BUY THE DVDS TO SEE THE GORE!" moments.
lol that nigga was in Shin Mazinger, minus the kiddie head.
The synopsis makes it sound like the manga:
>During the Ice Age, demons, humanity's natural predator, were imprisoned in ice. Previously in hibernation, the demons are escaping in increasing numbers. Ryo Asuka's father was killed by demons after his archaeological explorations took him too close to the truth. After reading his father's notes, Ryo calls on the help of his best friend, Akira Fudo, to fight the demons. But only a demon can stand a chance against another, so Akira must let himself be possessed, but maintain control over the demon inside him. Akira, now as Devilman, must face the heightening onslaught of demon attacks to save humanity.
Guess I was right, then. That's pretty cool.
Actually, you know what would be awesome but will likely never happen? A Violence Jack adaptation directed by Imagawa, with the dramatic narrator "voice" from the manga being the Shin Mazinger narrator. I mean, just imagine:
>"He has the muscles of a gorilla! The fangs of a wolf!
>Primordial fire burns in his eyes...
>His entire 2.20 meter body is filled with fighting energy!
>He is Jack!
...voiced like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FDj1KTha8go
It would be instant AOTY and now I just made myself sad knowing there's no way it will ever happen.
>"Dated" as used by anime fans is basically "I can tell that this is old or based on an old work by looking at the art style, ergo it is inferior"
Pretty much. People will ignore plenty of rough animation in newer shows but in older shows it's always "look at this dated animation". Or even worse is when the animation's just fine, but they'll say it's dated anyway because they don't like the artstyle
Why would they put Devilman on television in the 21st century?
Oh well, at least we'll see this glorious scene again.
What's the big deal? This isn't Devilman's first adaptation plus it's being done by Actas, unless they have a big budget or talented people working on it (Shin Mazinger and Enma-kun) then t'll probably be shit like every other Devilman adaptation was.
>be shit like every other Devilman adaptation was.
The OVA which covered the Fudo>Devilman transition was perfect and completely faithful to the manga.
It was also only 50 minutes long but it was still awesome.
You know, in hindsight: Devilman wasn't really much of a superhero, was he? Like, when it came to actual hero-ing, he was fairly ineffective. (He didn't manage to defeat Sirine, for example, and he didn't really have a solution to the turtle thing.)
More, even his whole grudge match with Lucifer is effectively pointless. Lucifer more-or-less unmakes his army with a thought. Or rather, there IS a fight, but it's like a man trying to have a fistfight with a tank. Raising the Devilman army, gathering forces and alliances...It's all moot, because Lucifer HIMSELF could wipe 'em all out.
He must have gone into the battle knowing "Shit, we're fucked. I'm going to die today, and so is everyone who rides with me." But somehow, this story seems remarkably resonant to the point that there are so many side-stories that fill in the missing years.
I wonder why is that?
>and he didn't really have a solution to the turtle thing
The solution was killing Jinmen, which he did.
The people on its back were already dead, he couldn't do shit to save them.
Only a dumb shonen hero would have tried to and succeeded with some deus ex machina.
Actas did the 4 best-looking episodes of Shin Mazinger, and they likely have more budget to spend now thanks to the GuPbux. Why is everyone so upset about the studio choice? You could do with much, much worse.
>Actas did the 4 best-looking episodes of Shin Mazinger
They didn't "do" anything. They were assisting them saying them did those episodes is almost as stupid as saying WIT did episode 10 of G-Reco. Not that it made a fucking difference because Shin Mazinger was a very poor looking show that got by thanks in part to its direction even if the pacing was shit.
People have a right to not be thrilled about this because Actas us just not good, their other Dynamic Pro works were forgettable (though honestly I don't think anyone gives a shit about Jeeg to care and SKL was really just a fucking joke) also Devilman in all his animated incarnations has been shit and there's no fucking way that Actas will come close to the 80's OVA version that had animators from Ghibli working on it. Also the franchise has really been spent so I was never gonna give a shit about this unless they got a really good studio behind it. Part of the reason I'm excited for the upcoming Ushio to Toshio adaptation is not only because it will be a complete adaptation but because MAPPA is animating it saying we should be excited for this is like saying we should be excited for Parasyte if Toei was animating it instead of Madhouse.
Back to Garada with you, dago. Pic related, your hometown and your opinions.
busterbeam being retarded as usual. They are credited as assistant animators. That means they were called in for man power. They have nothing to do with the composition or directing of any scene. I'm not saying the animation is going to be bad, I'm just pointing out that you're full of shit as usual.
I'll admit I likely made a mistake and misunderstood the meaning of "animation assistance". So yeah, sorry.
>though honestly I don't think anyone gives a shit about Jeeg to care and SKL
You thought wrong.
Some people claim that Jeeg was the best adaptation ever done because of its balance of story and action. Whatever your opinion is, it doesn't matter.
I don't even know why you comment in threads about nagai adaptations considering you hate them so much. We're just getting the usual deal, but you're a crybaby who's not happy with anything and you're literally acting like a spic.
Reminder that MADHOUSE were willing to animate Parasyte, which is an awful ripoff of the Devilman story, but not Devilman itself.
Assuming they are credited as
then no you didn't.
Directing means all sorts of things but composition comes from two things. The storyboard and the animator drawing layouts based on it. In SM every episode is storyboarded by Imagawa but the animators, animation directors and the episode director checking the layouts would work for whatever studio is credited with production. Assuming Actas had this credit (I can't be bothered to check) then they also have the most influence of the final result.
> Parasyte, which is an awful ripoff of the Devilman story,
Why the heck are the retards out in force today?
I'm starting to wonder what your problem with the show was, because I don't remember anything being outright bad about it. Jeeg had more pacing issues than Shin Mazinger and still ended up being a nice watch, as far as I remember.
How about we all just shut up and just think about the idea of Devilman getting a new anime?
I've seriously been waiting for this for years now. I thought 2012 was going to be that year, but nothing happened except for the manga remake.
Now it's finally here, my hopes and dreams finally came true. I just want to fantasize a little bit before despairing about how shit it's going to be.
>Some people claim that Jeeg was the best adaptation ever done because of its balance of story and action. Whatever your opinion is, it doesn't matter.
And your opinion matters why?
That's animation assistance retard which means jackshit since even studios like Gonzo do animation assistance work for big budget projects like Code Geass it doesn't mean they're actually animating the entire episode.
Anon, /m/ is the place where you go when you want people to talk shit about the things you like. Coming here to try to get hype about things you want to like is an exercise in futility.
I give up now. There's really no meaning talking with people who pretend they know things they don't. If you would like you could always share how you found you own definition of 制作協力. Did you perhaps read the word and imagine the meaning yourself? And while you're at it why don't you share what the credits says when all of the production if a episode is outsourced to a different company?
You really are clueless.
It's not like it matters.
Actas has always animated Nagai anime. I don't know why it's such an issue now. You could have complained when Jeeg came out. It's redundant at this point.
>How about we all just shut up and just think about the idea of Aquarion getting a new anime?
>How about we all just shut up and just think about the idea of Eureka 7 getting a new anime?
>How about we all just shut up and just think about the idea of Urobuchi writing a new mecha anime?
>How about we all just shut up and just think about the idea of Sunrise getting a new mecha anime by Okuichi?
>How about we all just shut up and just think about the idea of GBF getting a new anime?
You fags never learn do you?
>Actas has always animated Nagai anime.
If by always you mean just two sure.
>I don't know why it's such an issue now.
It's always been an issue. People complained about the piss poor animation in Jeeg and SKL even back then/ They're not a studio known for their lavish production value since they mostly do in-between work.
>It's always been an issue.
The point is, you would have stopped caring about DP when it was such an issue.
>about the piss poor animation in Jeeg and SKL
I happen to not think that, because 80s and 90s Nagai ovas were much much worse in the animation department. In fact, things greatly improved.
You can't pull a Mao Dante in this day and age, except if you're Trigger (Ninja Slayer).
Just stop caring. It's like you're that faggot who wouldn't stop complaining about how Gundam is ruined, but would never stop watching anyway.
I understand that people aren't excited. That means they should have stopped caring. But now this thread is being shitposted to death again.
How about you man up and make a decision anyway? Do you care or do you not care? If you do not care, for the sake of people who do care, please for Satan's sake, stop shitposting.
>because 80s and 90s Nagai ovas were much much worse in the animation department
>because 80s and 90s Nagai ovas were much much worse in the animation department
There was a time when Ghibli animators worked on a Devilman project. What a great time that was.
Yeah, but you forget anime gems like Barabanba.
>I happen to not think that, because 80s and 90s Nagai ovas were much much worse in the animation department. In fact, things greatly improved.
Slow down there faggot. The Devilman OVAs from the 80's are incredibly well-animated there's also Shin Cutey Honey and even Kekko Kamen looked better than fucking Shin Mazinger. The last well-animated Go Nagai project was Re: Cutey Honey from a decade ago. Now why the fuck should I be excited about a new Devilman work when so many great studios like Brain Base and Gainax worked on Go Nagai works in the past?
>You can't pull a Mao Dante in this day and age, except if you're Trigger (Ninja Slayer).
Doesn't work that way. Ninja Slayer is an intentional jab that adds to the humor Mao Dante is just poorly animated.
Let's make a list of well produced Dynamic Pro anime
- Oh Productions Devilman OVA's (87, 90)
- Getter Robo Armageddon (98)
- Neo Getter (00)
- Mazinkaiser (01 - )
- Re: Cutie Honey (04)
- Enma (maybe?) (11)
There are some things I haven't seen that might be good like the 90's Cutey Honey OVA. Anything else?
The years around the millennium shift can be seen as a high point but there's no real relation between quality and year.
But you have no idea what that means. You're making up a definition in your head.
Again. What does it say in the credits when the entirety of an episode is outsourced to a different company? I don't think you can answer this.
But in between those years, you had stuff like Iron Virgin Jun and Kama Sutra.
The mangas were awesome, the ovas, not so much.
Anyway, we haven't seen a trailer yet, so if I were you, I'll reserve judgement till I see one.
And honestly, I enjoyed SKL's animation. Jeeg had gorgeous Nagai designs and the animation was a little stiff, but that wasn't enough to get me unhyped. And Shin Mazinger was awesome, despite having the budget being a bit too little.
I'm way way more concerned about the director getting the story right. Devilman is all about the emotional impact. It's not a robot series like Mazinger where fights matter much more.
>A new Mazinger directed by Imagawa with a theme song by Jam Project
>A new Enma-kun anime by Brain Base with characters designs by Kimura and the director of Betterman with a theme song by Masaaki Endoh
>Uh....here's a new Devilman anime by Actas
That...doesn't sound very exciting at all
>Sh...Shut up! YOU HAVE TO BE EXCITED ABOUT IT BECAUSE IT'S DEVILMAN!
>YOU HAVE TO BE EXCITED ABOUT IT BECAUSE IT'S DEVILMAN!
That's not what I said at all. Stop twisting my words you spic.
I said, you don't have to be excited for this new Devilman, but it's not a good reason to shitpost, like how you're doing now.
Yeah, because you don't care about it, so you have no reason to shitpost.
We don't have to go through this every time there's a new Nagai adaptation announced.
You could simply stop caring.
>We don't have to go through this every time there's a new Nagai adaptation announced.
We don't. It's just that there's very little reason to be excited about this but you want to pretend there is.
>It's just that there's very little reason to be excited about
In your opinion.
If you're not excited, you don't have to shitpost all over the place telling everyone how you're not hyped for it.
>but you want to pretend there is.
Where? I'm just saying to leave the thread to people who are hyped for this. No one's forcing you to get hyped or even care about it.
Since you don't know it your answer is that credits never reveal such things? You should at least know you're ignorant.
Here's some reading for you
This will be my last post abut this.
It's an article about outsourced episodes. A completely outsourced episode is credited as 制作協力 which means production cooperation (animation assistance is not an acceptable translation as it doesn't mean just animation). Animators are almost all freelance. The important difference is that another company is responsible for gathering the staff and managing the production hence the production assistance credit.
>tfw we will never see Kochi Ohata direct a Devilman adaptation
You could tell so hard that Genocyber wanted to be Devilman, why couldn't they just have gotten him to make Devilman?