>>12503819 I wish we saw more melefs in the movie. youre right about them looking like monsters, theyre super organic and noodly >>12503863 I actually really like the movie, but they leave a ton of stuff from the series out. and there's lots of talking without much action. That being said, it's drawn beautifully, and the music is great. I'd give it a watch
>>12503762 Those things were so far beyond everything else in the show. Makes me wonder why Zaibach didn't just steamroll the rest of the world and then shaped it as Dornkirk saw fit instead of doing that hilariously convoluted fortune zone thingy.
>>12503863 I just found a copy last week. Pretty much no romance, and little mecha action. But what mecha action there is is pretty sweet. It was cool, but ironically, I really think it'd be great as a series to flesh out what with the changes from the show.
Im a drawfag that likes to do fantasy mecha, lets you do stufg closer to real life armor while still taking liberties. When and if I git gud enough I want to do a comic or hijack some of my programmer friends to make a sprite based game with said mecha.
>>12504028 They were in the process of doing just that near the end of the series, I think. It took a fantasy nuke to slow them down. >>12507108 No, they all had cloaks and metal shooters, and could fly too. Oh, and Zaibach had 10,000 of them.
>>12507320 >No, they all had cloaks and metal shooters, and could fly too. Oh, and Zaibach had 10,000 of them. It seems like they did seem to have at least a few regular guymelefs too, there's one guymelef you see at the mine in episode 8, one that isn't for digging like those in >>12506144.
IIRC it somewhat resembled an Alseides, but was more conventional, with no cloak and wielding an ordinary sword.
I've always assumed it was what Zaibach used before the Alseides was developed, now relegated to garrison work, but not something used on the front lines anymore.
It's really hard to do. If you go too far in any one direction everything feels out of place. Escaflowne worked because the mechs were all a collection of gears and winches instead of being something really futuristic, and being powered by dragon hearts geounded them in the setting.
I had it all along and didn't notice until after my prior post because I'm an unorganized nitwit. I'd post it myself, but this thread seems to hate me and I keep getting connection errors when trying to upload big pictures for some reason, I had the same problem after multiple attempts to upload the same image >>12506144 did too. >>12515056 That's why you have big flying castles to carry them around in.
Balgus looks like he IS a melef going by his proportions there. Tiny head, super huge legs and waist. Yea, I know: perspective, style and/or quality, but it's still kind of weird in that one frame regardless.
Balgus was great though. It's just a pity he only had a few minutes of screentime tops. I'd love to have seen more of the guy. Especially what he could do if he'd gotten in to a Melef at a later point. Escaflowne was a fun show, but I wish it'd have explored some of it's ideas a bit more. The implied history of Escaflowne, it's alien creators and all that was especially interesting to me.
>>12525504 >I still don't see how anyone's supposed to lose to fucking Alseides hax though. I assume you meant "win" or insert a "not" before lose.
But outside of main characters, with Van having Hitomi and later his own ability to see through the cloaking, and Allen apparently being that damn good, nobody ever did seem to win against them IIRC, in so far as conventional warfare, ie; no magic nukes.
We see some individual successes, sure, but overall, it looked like just a handful of them annihilated Fanelia's defenses and wrecked the place, the same for Allen's fort (though they also abandoned the place anyway), in alrger battles Freid's army got trashed, the staging base for the allied fleets got trashed, and in the big final battle Zaibach seemed to be wrecking everybody's shit 'till said magic nuke got dropped on them as I recall. Am I forgetting any other larger battles?
>>12525529 >Maybe those are pretty expensive and you can not produce & maintain enough of them to spread yourself too far (even with flying fortress).
Based on what we see in the show, it seems the Alseides (and whatever exactly >>12515342 is) were mostly hollow hulls filled with liquid metal, which supported and moved the things. If so, it would probably make them easier, though not necessarily cheaper, to produce and maintain than conventional guymelefs, what with the numerous moving parts running throughout the things.
Combined with Zaibach's overall apparent high industrialization, and the fact that we never see them field any standard melefs, it suggests the had little difficulty producing them or at least had a whole lot of time to prepare Though IIRC Folken had some hand in developing the Alseides, the stealth cloaks in particular, and the timeframe of Zaibach taking him in only leaves about 10 years I think?
>>12526277 I entirely agree with they absolute superiority, and Zaibach industrial grade magic was awesome indeed. But in this world where there's like super-robot-constructor >>12525482>>12525529 who can pop out of the sky and might actually be capable of building army of Escaflowne... I wouldn't say Zaibach fear no one.
It might also have to keep a moral high-ground (in appearance at least), we saw little of Zaibach population but many war have been lost because the population simply didn't supported it.
Anyway, its fiction, your argument are perfectly logical, I'm just offering other possibility to explain the statue slightly Quo (it was said Zaibach was feared by everybody if I remember)
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