How can Miyazaki be friends with Anno when he thinks Evangelion is complete shit?
His actual Ghbli successor, the dude who directed Ocean Waves, died of aneurysm.
Since then he has retired a bunch of times, but came back, had his son propped up by greedy producers for lackluster films, he don't know what to do.
Anno, whom he trained, is the closest thing he has to an heir now >>13444220
Damn, never heard about Goro's death. What the hell.
>How can Miyazaki be friends with Anno when he thinks Evangelion is complete shit?
Because Miyazaki REALLY liked Anno's animation of the Giant God Warrior in Nausicaa. That's basically where it all started.
What Anno thinks about Miyazaki´s most popular work?
Will Anno keep rehashing Eva until the end of time?
Fuck you, he has shown his true integrity by opposing nepotism, you whiney bourgeois cunt.
Hayao has the right to be bitter. He witnessed his nation raise from ashes while he dedicated his entire life to animation and build ghibli as his legacy. Now, Japan is the world's laughing stock, anime is dead and ghibli is broke. Hayao's entire life was meaningless, everything he fought for is ruined.
Anyone here saw The Wind Rises? The final scene with Jiro walking on the ashes of his dreams is basically how Hayao feels now.
>Japan is the world's laughing stock,
Nips were always made fun of, as weird chinks. Only time they were was when we're busy bombing them.
>anime is dead
No, its THRIVING, just degenerate
>and ghibli is broke.
His fault for not monetising his sucess like Disney.
They will limp along.
Never, Anno is my son now.
Because Anno is a vet director, which means he is also a vet sound/audio director, and Miyazaki knows this.
Miyazaki is well known for hiring unconventional VAs, mostly film actors and HATES the anime VA industry for whatever shit that happened decades ago.
IMO Miyazaki wanted a faggot plane nerd and got Anno as his self insert.
>being an audio director means that you know how to act
There's a reason Ghibli movies are better dubbed.
Japan used to be admired for the Japanese miracle, probably anons are too young to remember it. Also, before the war they were the cool kids of Asia. They discredited the mainstream science of their time by initiating the first industrial revolution outside the west and defeating a western army, Russia. By the end of WW1, Japan was definitely a regional empire that could received a piece of the cake without fighting. Japan was the sole civilized nation on Asia and they were treated like Europeans on the Asian continent.
>treated like Europeans on the Asian continent.
Weebs, sudoku yourself.
They were jokes before the war as best WOGs if Asia, hated during the war, laughed at post war for their loser cheap junk, feared and hated in the 80's, now they are jokes again in the net.
Are you retarded?
Or were you dropped as a child?
>The Wind Rises is his best film
>it's not even the best Miyazaki movie since 2000
>it's not even the best Miyazaki movie since 2010
Cosby told the blacks to stop worshiping thug culture, not "don't drug white women for sex."
And Miyazaki us absolutely right.
Anime industry has only survived by catering to the lowest degenerate filth like paedophiles.
Paedophiles like you, you garbage excuse for a human being.
Christ, kill yourself.
>pls go tell some pedos that they are pedos
Hayao "that scene in Porco Rosso where his self-insert gets swarmed by naked lolis" Miyazaki
>Tomino: For instance, Brain Powered came out after Evangelion did, so I am often asked questions similar to yours about the connection between them, but in reality the plans for Brain Powered and the overall story had all been completed before Evangelion came out. I never meant Brain Powered to be an antithesis to Evangelion. I knew when I saw Evangelion that Brain Powered would be called an antithesis to it, but I didn't want to change my plans any, so I just resigned myself to that.
>So I was very upset when I saw Evangelion, because it was apparent to me that the people who made it weren't thinking at all about making fun for or gaining the sympathy of the audience. Instead they tried to convince the audience to admit that everybody is sick, practically in the middle of a nervous breakdown, all the time. I don't think you should show things like that to everybody. It's not entertainment for the masses--it's much more interested in admitting that we're all depressed nervous wrecks, I thought. It was a work that told people it was okay to be depressed, and it accepted the psychological state that said if you don't like the way the world works, then it's okay to just pick up a gun and attack someone. I don't think that's a real work of art. When people see that, they begin to realize they are the same way. I think that we should try to show people how to live healthier, fuller lives, to foster their identity as a part of their community, and to encourage them to work happily until they die. I can't accept any work that doesn't say that.
>Animerica: Is that different from your downbeat endings?
>Tomino: I make sure my audience knows it's fiction and that what happens to my characters doesn't necessarily say anything about their own lives.
>This is connected with my wish for more animators to see themselves as entertainers. I don't think I succeeded with Brain Powered, and I don't think it was very good with entertainment--but there was one thing I did try to do with it. If 100 people come to see an anime with giant robots, then chances are are that not every one of those 100 people will be a huge fan of robot anime. What I wanted to do was to make an anime that had a truly interesting story that wouldn't cause the people who watched it to have a nervous breakdown. I also tried to make a story that would tell anime fans that there were often other things out there better than anime. That's the goal I challenged myself to do. I don't think the series itself was a success, though, I have to admit that.
This paragraph is before the commentary on why he disliked Eva, probably shouldn't have deleted it.
Is he talking about EoE? Because the TV series definitely wasn't saying "it's okay to be depressed". I thought the ending was unambiguously about Shinji learning to push forward and try to live happily.
>Instead they tried to convince the audience to admit that everybody is sick, practically in the middle of a nervous breakdown, all the time
>admitting that we're all depressed nervous wrecks
>tfw I'm a happy and well-adjusted individual who never worries about anything
Your voodoo has no effect on me, Eva.
The ending was literally Shinji accepting that it's okay to live in an artificial world of his own imagination, where everyone would love him unconditionally. EoE was Shinji seeing that same escapism and going "You know, it's nice, but it's not what I need."
>Shinji accepting that it's okay to live in an artificial world of his own imagination, where everyone would love him unconditionally
You would have to ignore the actual dialogue spoken to believe that.
>The ending was literally Shinji accepting that it's okay to live in an artificial world of his own imagination, where everyone would love him unconditionally
he specifically moved on from the made up imagination endings and ascended to the same plane everybody else who wasn't a fuckup already got to
they were just nice to him since he was last to the party
>everybody else who wasn't a fuckup
No, most of those people are definitely fuck-ups. He just moved from Super Pity Party Plane to the Lying To Myself About Not Lying To Myself Plane.
>You would have to ignore the actual dialogue spoken to believe that.
>Maybe if I stay here, I can learn to love myself. That's right; I'll go on living in this world!
>Omedetou! Omedteou! Omedetou! Omedetou! This chair Omedetou! Onedetou! Squack (TL Note: "Squack" means "Congratulations"! Omedetou! Omedetou!
I'm pretty sure that's not what happened.
I can see where Tomino is coming from, but Eva is like a slap in the face for some people. Like a message that is only accepted because it's from an animated show about robots and QTs. I think Anno said somewhere that Eva is only really going to affect a certain type of person. Not to .say they're better for it, but the anxiety is relatable to them.
Nude beaches and children running around half naked is quite common.
People think its funny if they bother to think of it all.
Its you Americans that project your hidden desires.
You realize that what you just said contradicts your point, right? There'd be no "me", there's no individual in the full instrumentability. So, saying that he wants to love himself goes directly against the idea that the tv ending is accepting Instrumentability.
He's specifically recognizing that his worth and being is as an individual during the ending, the literal opposite of Instrumentality.
>"I am me. I want to be myself. I want to continue existing in this world. My life is worth living here."
He's surely talking about the real world. This might be redundant at this point.
And then Anno got proven wrong and it was and still is popular as shit with people he didn't think would get anything out of it.
I just want to read what Miyazaki had to say since I respect him more than Tomino as an artist.
This isn't a nude beach or any natural occurrence though. Miyazaki specifically chose to have the opening sequence of Porco Rosso to be about his self-insert rescuing a bunch of lolis, and specifically to have those lolis be naked, for a reason. And that reason is he's a closet pedo.
Why do so many Tomino shows get cancelled some way or another and forced to become a compressed mess?
Pedozaki is a funny meme, but shit like that is projection level reaching, most of his shit and other of his gen have children running abound doing that kind of shit.
What is true is that his works lead directly to the modern anime culture and that he is responsible for.
It's like watching your son grow from a fun loving healthy 10 year old to a morose fat basement manchild shut in who collects anime figures and gunpla.
>He's surely talking about the real world.
You'd have a point if he weren't on a tiny ball surrounded by imaginary representations of his friends and family.
Just hearing the dialogue is one thing, and by itself it's very motivational-- but in context Shinji is talking about how he wants to live in a world where there's only him.
Instrumentality locked every person away to their own individual existences so that nobody could hurt each other. There was nothing but individuality.
>a morose fat basement manchild shut in who collects anime figures and gunpla.
>There was nothing but individuality.
You don't even understand the concept of the project, which is why you're confused. It's explicitly stated it's a melding of minds and uniting humanity into a single existence where no individual existed, which is why nobody could hurt each other.
>he weren't on a tiny ball surrounded by imaginary representations of his friends and family.
How could you get so focused on the visuals but ignore the stage room Shinji was in was part of Instrumentality and it cracks, representing his desire to leave it and highlighting the dialogue spoken?
>It's explicitly stated it's a melding of minds and uniting humanity into a single existence where no individual existed, which is why nobody could hurt each other.
That was the idea, except for Rei explaining that everything shown to Shinji was in his own imagination.
>How could you get so focused on the visuals but ignore the stage room Shinji was in was part of Instrumentality and it cracks,
Largely because this is a series that relies on explicit visual and not metaphor. When we saw Shinji de-Tang before we actually saw him de-Tang. The world shattering away is literally the worst possible way to handle Shinji leaving the Tang, because visually he's still in the Tang.
>representing his desire to leave it and highlighting the dialogue spoken?
Are you seriously just going to ignore how you pointed out that the visuals are directly contradictory to the dialogue and then say that they're congruent?
You know, the running joke here is that in japan he's often mocked for being a poorly-veiled pedophile with his films
The recurring themes of childhood, innocence and nubile female protagonists in his works are pretty damned blatant
But whatever, normalfags with little to no actual knowledge of his works will go "Miyazaki, i wuv his films!" all over fucking facebook just because they think he won various awards and whatnot
He's a old fart who animates, and not an actual intellectual with any higher-education and accreditation.
Anyone worth his salt would dismiss his dumb, cynical ramblings about technology, culture and "back in my day" because non of it actually means jack shit
>an actual intellectual with any higher-education and accreditation.
How's that student loan coming, liberal arts major.
He's a cartoon director, an artist, why would a degree help or hinder his films, you dumb fucking mongrel.
Far as I'm concerned, he isn't pedo enough, so it's pointless.
Tell me when he make something I can actually fap to.
>implying he has any need to defend himself
>implying you aren't just another pedo
>Miyazai is filthy pedo, just like me!
I like that Miyazaki is really just an old otaku who likes to draw cute girls and machines like anyone else in the industry. His denial and possible self-loathing over it just makes him more endearing.
It's stated Shinji will lose all concept of himself if he's alone. "You have to connect with others to find out who you are." This runs contrary to his resolution and statements if he decided to live in an artificial world of his own imagination.
>Are you seriously just going to ignore how you pointed out that the visuals are directly contradictory to the dialogue
I didn't. Your notion of the imagery after Shinji's resolution is simply yours. I was just pointing out something that explicitly contradicts your idea.
I admit the TV ending is deliberately ambiguous, but you did flat out misinterpret Instrumentality.
I'm not exactly trying to get on his ass for being a typical condescending old timer, but watching him go off in the papers about japanese youth, handheld technology and the internet is just silly
Society at large would be receptive to Spielberg's thoughts on cinema and the film industry because he's made significant impact in those sectors. If Spielberg started sperging off in the media about "Muh healthcare" "Muh renewable energy" everyone would rightfully think he's getting waaaay above himself
He's just a normie version of this oyaji, really.
There is nothing wrong with people using their voice to speak out for and against what they believe is wrong and right in this world, you sound like a Trump voting Americunt.
Are you surprised an old Jap artfag would be against Nukes and be for Forests and shit, you delusional fuck?
>pure little girls going on adventures or young girls falling for older men?
That isn't just pedo.
That's also pedo.
Slight but important distinction.
>To a hammer, everything looks like a nail
Here ya go
But we live in the Twitter hivemind age. You're either part of my hivemind and agree with every single thing I think, or you're part of the other hivemind and think every single thing they think and are the worst kind of human being.
What is it about Miyazaki that makes people worship him like this?
Is it the kindly Colonel Sanders exterior?
The 'muh Japanese Disney' comparison?
Is it because they've watched 5 anime and 3 of those were by Miyazaki?
It's like there's some kind of hidden brainwashing in Spirited Away or something.
>'muh Japanese Disney'
Disney was an asshole.
Miya-san is indeed like a child molester.
He comes to all your rooms at night, when you are young and most vulnerable and touches you in your
That robot is Okawara garbage.
Miyazaki would never fashion a robot that crude and boxy.
It would be all natural circles and feminine bullshit one with the earth crap.
Fucking hack this guy is.
That shit really annoying, the worst part, really.
>That robot is Okawara garbage.
Fuck you Okawara drew the Scopedog AND Vifam, that shit is chinese toys tier.
Also fuck that comic, apparently criticism is toxic and bad and everyone should just pat on each other backs because that's how art should be right?
Michelangelo Buonarroti studied art from when he was 11 and was often beaten by his art shop master because of little mistakes, that's why he could paint AND sculpt like he did later in life, along with a lot of effort and personal aptitude for the craft.
Competition breeds excellency, not complacency.
>Miyazaki would never fashion a robot that crude and boxy.
his robot from Flying Ghost Ship was pretty rough-looking
Intentionally ugly is still ugly
A guy in a spacesuit not a robot, toku-tier bad
Okay, OVAs were pretty good, I admit.
Nah, a bro keeps shoving me that old ass show.
Look, I'm sure it was cool back then whatever, but I don't watch anime to look at old as fuck shit, unless it's so bad its funny.
Maybe when I'm old and bitter as you fucks I'll get around to it, but if I wanted to watch funky no budget shit I'd still be in /co/.
People watch anime because for the sharp style and good lineart, for people and mechs.
Yes, and the same thread made every week complaining about what a chore it is to watch SDF, 0079 and other 70/80's staples, same threads made since beginning of /m/, they were all bait right?
It can't be that newfags consider anything pre 2000, "too old," right?
But hatred is stronger than creativity.
At the end of the day, so-called 「HATERS」 won't stop hating things they hate. 「CREATORS」, however, will still be upset that somebody hates their work.
It takes creativity to hate properly.
Takes sharp wits for that unique put down.
Most of the "haters" are also the "creators" themselves anyway.
>People watch anime because for the sharp style and good lineart,
I thought Araki (SnK director) was Tomino's chosen heir.
It's actually Nagano and Imagawa, though Tomino has never publicly acknowledged Imagawa unlike Nagano.
>I don't understand animation
No, you sure don't.
Are you the fucktard who posted the still?
Are you that much of a spastic to counter a nebulous non statement like "sharp" with a badly drawn random frame from... was that SAO?
Seriously, what went wrong in your life?
What went wrong with mine that I'm responding to you?
I really hope you are a subtle troll, but this bring /m/ you're probably a legit autist.
>Arguing about animation from a still frame.
That's the bottom ~60%.
The mid tier 39.9% get jobs.
From pretty good ones in nice studios to furry commissions on the bottom end.
World doesn't owe you success.
Lot's of people fear competition all levels, for different reasons.
Might I suggest you stop drawing cubs in diapers?
>World doesn't owe you success.
The world's notion of "success" is pretty screwed up, anyway. Our own individual aspirations have to take a back seat to somehow finding a way to scrape together enough money to live in a society where everything demands money from you. It's telling that "success" in most contexts is basically a synonym for "making money".
nah, not him. pretty easy to find the beta kek, just look for the guy talking about social darwinism and his own objective superiority. social darwinism is for faggot nerds and you're one of them. enjoy your fittest survival, kidd.
Nobody is a special snowflake, you autismo faglord.
Well, a very small number of freaks do exist out there, but they still have their own challenges.
And that small number certainly aren't taking all your damn jobs.
You're here whining on the internet that you can't afford a three story house or some dumb, selfish bullshit, meanwhile literally unknown of children are starving to death on the streets of third world countries. You have no idea how blessed you are, cunt. Fuck off back to Tumblr.
>literally unknown of children are starving to death on the streets of third world countries.
You know, fuck those brown rats.
Even cunts like you don't actually give a shit, faggots like you only bring them to guilt trip the gullible.
They should die already.
Don't care about what yer saying to other idiot, btw.
Don't use words you don't actually understand.
I didn't say you had to care about them, you fucking shitstain. But you have no right to say "woe is me and my poorfag life" when you clearly have internet access, implying you likely have food and a roof over your fatass head.
Watch the documentary and you'll know exactly why Anno got the part.
>I'm an artist
>I'm too stupid to get a real job but still want money and status
I thought I read an interview with Miyazaki before the film was released that said Anno would animate the planes, but I can't find it again. It didn't happen anyway since he isn't credited as an animator.
I got you senpai
love the new filters btw
>could he be a murderer?
>he does kill a lot of people in his movies
It's trolling, because drawing children = pedo, of course.
It started when he bashed the lolicon filth in the documentry, and of course he is a God to normies and faggot art douches, babby's 1st animu, etc.
It's sort of wasted here,
Save it and repost in Neogaf or other plebbier sites.
"By directing combat and war pieces, I could experience catharsis and successfully avoid committing a murder in real life. In this sense, I'm really grateful for that because I was conscious that I had such homicidal traits, to be honest."
— Yoshiyuki Tomino
We already know Tomino is a psychopath.
We don't need confirmation.
>I want people who don't meet my ridiculous and arbitrary standards to die in the streets! This makes me a good person!
恋愛 is the eros sort of love and not storge or philia which in Japanese would be (親愛).
It would have been ambiguous if it was just 愛 but that he used the word 恋愛 makes it pretty clear.
Miyazaki has given the world so much joy, I think it's only fair he should be legally allowed to bang any kids he want, desu senpai.
>Hey guys, I like sci-fi anime and robot shows!
>Except I only like the shows made before an arbitrary cut off point because everything else is TOO OLD, never mind the fact that most of the best entries in these areas in Japanese animation were made in the 70s, 80s and 90s.
>BUT I STILL LIKE IT, GUYS! I just will never engage with the vast majority of content or the seminal works and classics available because it's too old for me.
I really, REALLY don't get this. You're deliberately cutting yourself off from not only the vast bulk of content, but some of the best stuff in the genre/medium. All because you're either so autistic or so set in your ways you can't stand to see something made before the 2000s.
Most of them look like shit.
This is entertainment, if I don't enjoy it, why should I continue to endure it?
I mean maybe a movie, but weeks, months worth of eye cancer garbage, go fuck yourself.
>dfw you will never be a little Japanese girl
>dfw Miya-san will never be your father
>dfw he will never shag you every night, hard
why even live??
The Kingdom of Dream and Madness. Jap BD is fully subbed and rips have been around forever.
A great documentary that covers everything that made Ghibli great and also why it all ended with The Wind Rises.
I would imagine an old traditionalist apron man would understand the virtues of keep your house in order and your family issues, if present, behind close doors.
But apparently calling a man out on his failings is too much if he says a couple things you agree with.
Well, yer wrong and a huge faggot to boot, silly cunt.
>attacking the messenger
>not the message
You sound like you have trouble admitting how shitty anime culture is and how degenerate people like you truly are.
Or by your bitchy passive aggressive autism, maybe you do.
>Gundam because PEW PEW GIANT ROBBOTS!!!!
Tomino likes to pretend that he always wanted to do a serious scifi space opera but he can be that way too, sometimes.
It's probably why he gets along so well with Fukui. They both have the same admiration for the sci-fi element to Gundam that gives them a platform based in pseudo-realism for PEW PEW PEW
This gonna take a while...
all i know is that legoman guy is popular enough to be mentioned on /v/ all the time, even though his porn is just the shittiest most barebones sketches. and i've seen terraria threads (for example) with people desperate for any porn at all, even the most worthless mspaint shit
so it seems it would be extremely easy if you actually have good art. people think with their dicks, they'll become loyal fans in an instant if you target the right series/characters/fetishes