I'll lead this off with a mix I just did last night. Enjoy it or hate it, I don't care. Cheers, m80's.
Why did no one tell me about Jim from Source Direct returning to music?
Also shots fired:
>They say you should never say never but I will never work with him again. There’s no point as his contribution to the music was negligible and simply more of a mate (from school days) who ended up helping to buy a few items for the studio with his family support so it was more of a extra pair of hands to help do the mundane things.
>All music creation, programming, mixing, production, engineering and mastering has solely been myself from day one. He used to make a good cup of tea to be fair… lol! S.D. has always been my baby and always will be, it cost me a lot emotionally and financially to keep it as well as blood sweat and tears but S.D. and its trademark are by law & contractually owned and vested solely by me. If you honestly had created and genuinely contributed to the S.D. body of work would you really happily agree to sign over all ownership, publishing, copyright etc. for a little pay-off cash? I know I certainly wouldn’t! S.D. is mine and tattooed on the inside of my head for life…lol!
the basic channel off-shoots. Maurizio, Rhythm & Sound (more dub), and Round One - Five (ranges from chicago house to dub to ambient)
Some consider Andy Stott dub techno. Luxury Problems" was one of my favorites from 2012.
Shed has some good stuff. His EQD alias gets pretty dubby at times.
levon vincent is not afraid to let the dub out either. pretty dark house. i imagine his stuff has soundtracked many ketamine-fuelled scat parties in berlin.
Thinking back, Phil always seemed to be goofy. Jim seems really hurt though, like man had a lot of bother in his life.
Looking forward to new material though, hope we might get something in the style of the Sounds of Life releases.
New Actress is pretty good. don't let the previews sway you.
Vinyl rips won't do it justice, record sounds amazing.
my copy is so fresh it still smells like its straight out the pressing plant.
we would know its you, only you would post that mix.
Just yesterday I was saying there was going to be an acid-electro revival. Can't wait for this.
In the meantime if you're after some more acid-elecro you should grab this free release off a great little label called Occult Research. Check out their other releases too, all great.
huh, that's really surprising. I remember hearing rumours about one of them getting big into drugs and shit? I wonder if any of that was true and Jim's just not mentioning it. Either way, Phil sounds like a bit of a dumb cunt. Didn't he become an investment broker or something, and now he's back and running that Vampire Records label that nobody's really heard of? Jim sounds like he's got his head on straight, and with ownership of the SD name/copyright and the networking/promo it appears he's been doing, it looks like he's serious about reviving it
I'm sorry that I even have to say this, and I get that Tensnake is a retard and all, but it's inexcusable.
You never, ever, promote shit in the OP of a general. You can ask some questions, or give the thread a theme, but you don't post links to songs you like and ESPECIALLY not to your shitty mixes.
maybe this is a good place to ask. ive been trying to remember an album. the cover was black with yellow lines/minimal drawing of some sort, title in german if i recall correctly, mid 90s, techno or maybe early trance influences. possibly something about a highway in there. anyone?
This should be good.
For anyone who hasn't heard of Source Direct (are there even such people?):
Source Direct Recordings (http://www.discogs.com/label/Source+Direct+Recordings):
Drum & Bass/Jungle label set up by Source Direct to release some of the darkest, most technical D&B you'll ever hear. Real old school vibes.
(SD001)  Source Direct - Fabric Of Space. Bliss
(SD002)  Source Direct - Approach & Identify. Modem
(SD003)  Source Direct - Snake Style, Exit 9
(SDR004)  Source Direct - The Crane
(SDR005)  Hokusai - Red Lights. Crystal House
(SDR006)  Hokusai - Black Rose. 12 Till 4
(SDR07)  Hokusai - Cold. Divine
(SDR08)  Hokusai - Jade. Sculptures Hide
(SDR1201)  Kutta & Al X Bleek - Strike Like A Cobra, Strictly Red
(ASW 6225)  Source Direct - Controlled Developments
>Drum & Bass, Jungle
nvm. I'm an idiot. i found it.
if anyone is interested
(ASW 6251-2)  Source Direct - Exorcise The Demons
>Drum & Bass, Jungle
Tensnake, and other fans of "deep house", you should give this album a listen.
(MET H 016)  Source Direct - A Made Up Sound, The Cult
(MET H 022)  Source Direct - Stonekiller, Web Of Sin
(RAZORS 003)  Goldie and Source Direct - This Is A Baad, The Cult (Remixes)
(RAZORS 005)  Rufige Kru and Source Direct - Dark Metal, Stonekiller (Remixes)
The genre? Nothing
The name? Means nothing to me, it's the most abused label in music history to the point where using it without a reference point is futile, two strangers won't understand what it means. It's even worse than dubstep vs dubstep.
You could say so of a lot of electronic genres: minimal techno, dub techno... Nowadays, those don't have a lot of meaning in themselves, and are used for really broad, different, kinds of sounds.
But what should you use instead to describe that kind of sound, in a short, and comprehensible manner?
I don't know much about dub techno but from what some say in these threads "it all sounds the same", so I imagine the sound spectrum is not overly wide, and for minimal the term is pretty descriptive. Deep house really does have a huge range of sounds, and what does "deep" even mean?
These can all be described by that same term but share very little, imo
And I don't have an alternative, that's why I had to implicitly qualify it by calling out Tensnake, then people can immediately understand what kind of deep house I'm referring to
woah Justin Bieber is making deep house sounds according to Fact magazine, you can hear a clip too...it's official "deep house" is gonna be the new EDM, are you sad that douchey people will invade deep house communities or are you happy because it's a step up from electro house?
>one guy with Xoul on slsk
>it's fucking Corner with Gangnam Style dubbed over the top
y so ded
Also latest Klockworks confirmed for not bad.
I think it started with Disclosure, then some faggot heard about Richie Hawtin, they started playing 'techno' and 'deep house' at lad clubs and there ya go.
every lad and lass on the floor 2 stepping and shufflin bruv
an unreleased sophie song was featured in a mix by cashmere cat
what do you guys think? i really really wish that he'd release this officially, along with just more music in general
AAAAAAAAAND JAAAAAAAAAAAAACK HAAAAD A GROOOOOOVE
So what is this years trendy flavour of techno?
You know how I know you're a pleb?
Well first of all you're talking about Actress in 2014, but RIP and Splazsh were easily his best. RIP was considered one of the best albums of 2012. You were still listening to Calvin Harris back then so I'll excuse your ignorance
Uhh, lies hasn't been trendy since 2012. Lo fi house is the opposite of trendy atm
Trendiest genres right now overall are Instrumental Grime, Kuduro, Footwork and 90s pop revivalism (PC Music)
Jungle is on it's way out, although you still hear it in some trendy mixes here and there
Some are saying a dnb revival could be next but I'm not sold
>I don't like your taste in electronic music, you must be a Resident Advisor user!
Not really other than PC Music (which I'll admit is meme-y as fuck).
Kuduro is the opposite of meme music, it's poor ass ghetto black kids from Lisbon making music they think sounds good
Anyway what you think about it is irrelevant, those are the trendiest genres right now, hands down
>Some are saying a dnb revival could be next but I'm not sold
a) Jungle and DnB are terms used to describe two ends the same genre spectrum, so a Jungle revival was simultaneously, at least in part, a DnB revival
b) DnB never died
Yea but jungle artists today are channeling early/mid 90's stuff, which was chiefly jungle. In a way you could say it's all a part of the same spectrum anyway, from dubstep to hardcore
Also grime never really "died" either but there's a whole group of young kids turning it on it's head and experimenting with it
Well n.e.R.d, but grime did go to shit for a good few years, whereas DnB's "death", if it did happen, was mid to late 2000s; somewhere between Hospital turning to shit and Autonomic flipping the script and allowing dubstep (which itself was dying) to influence the sound palette with the idea of space over agression
whatever you say brah. All I heard is a guy dicking around and coming up with some mildly interesting sounds.
I bet you if the "mystique" of POOR CHILLEN FROM A 3RD WORLD COUNTRY MAKING ELECTRONIC MUSIC wasn't part of the package nobody would give a fuck about it.
but whatever floats ur boat, brah.
Portugal is not exactly 3rd world, and people give a fuck because the music represents the creative output of a marginalised minority.
Grime was exactly the same, nobody outside the UK really gives a fuck about it, except Danny Brown.
2010 was dark times but there was a lot of good shit out in 2011 to balance it out, mainly new Dom & Roland and Basher (and FFF but he's not D&B so whatever).
M8, Grime very nearly died in a big way. So many MCs and producers had jumped ship into doing hip-Hop style bullshit and it was all without question totally shit (you could probably blame The Movement for that in a large way). It's kind of back now in that the instrumentals are as good as ever, but there is barely any properly decent MCs around in my opinion, and the old school guys are mostly shit now.
Also Trap influencing Grime is the latest problem.
not in the underground
the past 5 years have been some of the most creative for dnb, autonomic etc
oh yea and the best dnb release of all time came out last year
tbh you just seem like someone who listens to music to masturbate their ego instead of being interested in exploring the many types of music.
it's not like i can't listen to some /bleep/ approved source direct or pev after i'm done ironically listening to the black people music
>Calling Naibu - Fall the best D&B release ever
I can't allow this. It isn't even my favourite Naibu released, I prefer pic related.
Oh yeah I know the old grime guys are just chasing the money now so they're just biting trap. That's largely where the "nu-grime" (or whatever you want to call it) style was born out of - a response to the old school grime artists losing their edge
Pitchfork's dance music reviews are laughably bad. Read the Evian Christ Waterfalls review if you want entertainment. The guy reviewing it has literally no clue what he's talking about
I like Faze Miyake though. I can dig anything with barking dogs sample because of Jungle though.
>not listening to the definitive UK underground scene which outlasted UKG, Grime, Dubstep and will outlast whatever trendy UK Bass we have going on now.
Just listening through this for the first time. Really good so far. Would recommend, lads
ATM - Xerox on 1080p label
All three saw a much worse drop in popularity and also after arguably a shorter time when they were considered the premier music scene for the UK than D&B. I will admit that they probably had some better mainstream exposure but that ultimately lead to their faster downfall in the end.
There's too many, UK does the best comedy bar none.
PJDN, IT Crowd, Father Ted, Peep Show, Monkey Dust, Little Britain, Fawlty Towers, even 2 Pints of Lager and a Packet of Crisps (I think I'm the only person who likes it though)
>they probably had some better mainstream exposure
UKG maybe, but I think you underestimate how mainstream DnB was in it's prime; much more than grime or dubstep.
I mean lets be honest, the average Barry knows only Dizzee (and probably for his pop shit), Kano or Tempa T, and Skream's remix of In For The Kill or some shitty brostep
D&B was really mainstream for a while I agree, but it was more often some shitty Jump Up or watered down shit that made into the charts in later years (although it's that way with everything).
Grime was really, really fucking popular with teenagers. I think I find myself thinking it was more popular than it actually was because when I was blowing up big I was still in school and fucking everyone was listening to it, but the older generation never really got onto it.
I do think that Dubstep had better mainstream exposure if we're counting Brostep. Shit got so big so fast that no one really saw it coming.
(ZIQ290CD)  Various - Bangs and Works Vol. 1 (A Chicago Footwork compilation)
(ZIQ310)  Various - Bangs And Works Vol 2 (The Best Of Chicago Footwork)
Various - 2013 - 'CRACK - A Lost Juke-Footwork Compilation'
Other than the classic Chicago stuff which you should already know about:
The Escape from Chicago series is good non-American stuff
The Tranceworks comp from earlier this year was hilarious too. Basically a bunch of footwork artists remixed old cheesy trance "classics" to great effect. Probably won't like it if you're a music is srs business type, but I thought it was good
that one where the guy walked home all miserable like and his missus would be waiting there like clive where you have been this time and he'd be like i've been getting shagged by a horse or something
fuck knows what channel i'm 19 i was like 6 or something when this was on the telly you old twat
Best Jungle tune of all time, lads?
Best Industrial Techno tune of all time, lads?
Best Ghetto House tune of all time, lads?
Best best pre-2009 Dubstep tune of all time, lads?
Grimiest grime tune of all time, lads?
Most lo-fi House / Techno tune of all time, lads?
Biggest, most stompin kick drum of all time, lads?
Best donk of all time, lads?
Fastest gabber, m8s?
Most nifty hi-hats of any tune, boys?
Except I'm British, and I speak irl like how many people shitpost, so them typing like that for a laff is the same as people in real life who imitate and mock my "common" accent
You are literally the worst poster, you're a fucking rete who knows nothing about good music, contributes nothing, and are both unfunny and stupid to boot.
There's such a thing as being able to notice things, I would say it would come with age but I genuinely believe you're halfway braindead.
Fuck off and drown in a shallow puddle you pointless underage yank cunt.
>implying that isnt how most people in this thread talk irl
its how most young people in britain talk, especially ones who listen to dance music and are likely involved in drug culture. dont really feel that sorry for you mate lol
>Best Jungle tune of all time, lads?
>Best Industrial Techno tune of all time, lads?
>Best Ghetto House tune of all time, lads?
>Best best pre-2009 Dubstep tune of all time, lads?
>Grimiest grime tune of all time, lads?
>Most lo-fi House / Techno tune of all time, lads?
>Biggest, most stompin kick drum of all time, lads?
>Most nifty hi-hats of any tune, boys?
I didn't ask anyone to feel sorry, I just said it's not funny.
Then again the British love mocking themselves so I guess it's normal.
And to be truly honest with you I think most brits in these threads are lower middle class in leafy London suburbs or bumfuck nowhere villages who speak with generic wellspoken southern accents; basically Mumdance:
(skip to 3.20)
I dunno if he's a raging prick, maybe just a flacid willy.
Like all white nu-grime producers, he's rich.
Summer you're a child's plaything, you can suck the cream cheese out my 4.5" semi.
can people drop the white nu-grime thing? i kno your trying to be progressive like but it more comes off more as condescending neo-liberal twat. none of the original grime guys care. they're all enjoying the recent surge of popularity in grime and it's always been a relatively mixed scene for the area it comes from. if anything it's about class and the delocalization of music scenes.
He's right though, id rather have middle class nu grime than the "old school" fagets selling out and making the trap/grime hybrid garbage. Thank you based cultural appropriation.
Most the true hood nigs are making road rap nowadays anyway
>yfw one of the best instrumental grime producers alive is an American
This will undoubtedly go down as the most influential album of the '10s, right?
mumdance get lemon was coproduced by dj spyro
it just seems to me like your trying to have this edgy opinion when all the actual innovators in the scene like the music.
Not to mention the Grime 2.0 comp which was basically a way for the old guard to pass on the torch to the new guys
The whole grime/race bullshit is just a way for tumblr feminists to cry over something new.
Also, Visionist is black. Checkmate, atheists
Are you making the implication that Wen and Mumdance are old school producers or something?
The Skepta track fair enough though but that's pretty late on the scene compared to the new wave grime guys who've been putting in work for longer.
>yfw one of the best instrumental grime artists alive is a glitched Pokemon
No you jive turkey, he's making the point that these new artists are being remixed and coproducing with the old guys, which wouldn't be the case if they thought they were being disrespected
>his EP was mediocre
Top fucking lel
124 was the only weak track on there, the rest were 5/5 SOTY material (didn't xe2 actually win it from FACt?)
Also his production mix is incredible if you haven't heard it
you know mediocre doesn't mean bad right?
there were just very minor differences across all the tracks. i understand him wanting to use a certain sound palette across the EP, but there was not enough variation to keep me interesting. even the stock synth patches were all the same. it felt too template-ish.
yeah xe2 is dope, despite the long ass intro. i'll check out the production mix.
some sick tunes in there, but i think some of this stuff loses the essence of grime cos its so chinstroke-y and not as danceable. a lotttt of mediocre trappy stuff in there as well
>its so chinstroke-y and not as danceable.
I'd say that only applies to a lot of what Logos and Mumdance where playing and tbf they were starting it off, if everyone played stuff like Spooky people would get knackered pretty quick
and I'd say the essence of grime was there, there are tones of vibesy, non banger classic tracks, just look at a lot of Ruff Sqwad, Eski, Sino-grime stuff etc
I personally love the super melodic stuff that the ones like Murlo, JT the Goon, dark0, shriekin', etc put out. I have no idea how the fuck you would consider that "trappy" though. I think you're getting your definitions mixed up
Both of these.
(BRJ 001)  DJ K - Bloodclot Ragga Jungle Vol. 1:
>Jungle, Mix CD
(BRJ 002)  Various - Bloodclot Ragga Jungle Vol. 2:
>Jungle, Mix CD
Also seconding this >>48528897
it's good stuff but it's not danceable in the same way as this is danceable
and by trappy i'm just talking about the 808 drums that feature in a fair portion of those type of tracks
YEAH pc music is my favourite label right now. fucking love everything they do. have you heard manicure records? they are sort of similar to what pc music is doing
just gotta listen to tracks and pick out stuff that other producers use, copy that stuff at first to get a feel for it then develop your own style
grime needs a pretty decent ear for this level of listening. a lot of tracks (obvs not like pulse x lol) are a lot more complicated than they first seem when you listen a little closer
yeah i obv try that but some of it sounds out of time but in time at the same. lots of variations in random places, mad icy synths. plus getting that gliding squares sound is way more harder thatn it should be, its just two detuned squares
there you go you just made a grime classic
it's similar to dubstep in that you want to be very clever about how to use empty space within your drums, using a lot of rhythmic percussion, lots of alternations and swapping up your main drum hits too every couple bars. it's all about building a groove. some of visionist's nearly beatless tunes he does this but with random vocal snippets.
the synths are usually very polished and crystal clear. lots of pitch modulation for those glides.
lots of effects, you get the idea.
put a few choruses on the whole mix so u dnt have to spend loads of time detuning everything
use loads of chinses sounds
try randomising all your synth parts like just draw a bunch of 32 notes or something nd then randomise it sounds mental
ive been listening to shit and it seems they have a randomization every fourth bar for a bar. ive noticed a lot of 909 hi hat sounds and claps.
plus a lot gliding squares. i found a soft synth that has that preset, not a korg one but a wee fm sytnh called digits. the presets called hollowflute.
how they get those crystal synths? is it dungeon reverbs on the high ends?
yeah sinogrime is cool, its more about using japenese or pentatonic scales to get that oriental feel i think. ill try that chrous thing later, seems weird to put a chorus on the master track though
would anyone like to hear a sinogrime track i made a while ago
compress and saturate the synths, maybe try some parallel compression. you don't want to distort them to the point where you start hearing artifacts, but you want the sounds to be thick.
for the slick finish, you needa use some chorus and phasers. that's where the experimenting really comes in. if you're using ableton, what i like doing is doing a 3-way split using a group of multiband dynamic effects. then what you do is you isolate the mids lows and highs. puting some chorus on the mids or highs, some phaser maybe only on the highs. thick reverbs, short delays, etc.
>seems weird to put a chorus on the master track
try it out. top tip from me.
heres another one
the way u get those synths is to seperate the frequencies by every 300hz or so and then pan them across the mix so it's all spread out and it dont clash and then put it bak into mono again
Solid melody but there's virtually no bass. You need that grimey bass m8, that's what makes it grime. Also that tiny breakdown thing you sprinkle about (like at :54) is a bit awkward.
Check out Samename - Sakura
its a stock plugin, yes. the way you do it is you drop it into one of your channels, right click and group it. then you duplicate it so you got 3 of em and then you mute the bands in each one so you have the highs, mids and lows separate. you can adjust the frequencies but this will give you more control. you can mono the lower end and stretch out the upper frequencies to give it that stereo effect.
try getting a PSP nitro download. its an old chorus effect plugin but its pretty powerful. ableton's stock one is okay but you have a lot more control with nitro.
not the guy asking for advice but check out this old school grime banger i made in 2 minutes with my fl studio demo, lo bitrate for that authentic vibe