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Does any other death metal use clean vocals similar to Bolzer's? They have a weird, almost flamboyant charm to them if that makes any sense.
What would be a couple great tracks ruined by weak production, mediocre drums and occasional uninteresting parts that should have been cut.
As known (or I guess not so much back then) from Be'lakor, they write some delicious melodic riffs and leads, accompanied by atmospheric synths and double kick drums. However, on this one those last two things are not nearly present enough. Most of the keyboard work here is a more classic (and very dull sounding) piano, and most of the drums are very standard, very basic things such as those tediously slow blast beats. The songs lack tempo. This is especially made apparent in the second half of Tre'aste; they speed up here and it clearly works much better.
The intros are always really bland too, they don't do the rest of the song any justice at all, it makes them kind of off-putting.
The piano solo Paths is well written though it seems like it would have worked better with the full band, on its own it feels a bit stretched seeing it repeats itself.
Luckily they fix all of these weak points on their follow-up masterpiece. Re-record this with good production, let Jimmy try the drums again (he improved a lot) and this would be a very good album. As it stands though, it lacks punch and captivation, though the compositions are still good. 6.5~7
anyone else dying for new krallice music?
Does anyone know anything similar to this?
Bongripper - "Satan", from "Satan Worshipping Doom"
It's basically doom/sludge crossed with death and black.
I'm looking for similar sounding bands and, particularly, doom/sludge with strong riffs like that. All the doom/sluge I have heard is too slow and "light" for me.
Tom's vocals are straight ripped from this, though.
yes, and then i'll probably get sick of it after two songs.
"Satan" doesn't really mix black metal with doom at all, the intro is straight black metal and then the rest of the song plunges into groovy doom riffs. have you heard of diSEMBOWELMENT or The Ruins of Beverast? They're both better examples of death/doom and black/doom
You might want to try the early records first, since they turned to industrial metal later on. The next step is obviously Paul Chain's solo stuff, Black Hole, perhaps Opera IX's "Gothik" demo (or their later stuff with Cadaveria, although is a lot more extreme) or Mortuary Drape.
this was a disappointment overall, but that first chord of Into Ruin where you can just feel the loudness gives me chills. also 2014 doom recs i guess.
man bongripper really delivered on this one for me. i could feel the loudness on every song actually.
i also love how on descent i was listening and thought "this is a pretty cool descent", checked the song title and had a laugh.
circus of dead squirrels anybody?
Even for aggrotech (not metal) this is really bad.
Just listen to the band they ripped their name off though instead.
It's super cool that you liked >>49232563 cuz that shit's awesome, make sure you check out pic related too. I'm sure you've already heard the new Pallbearer, but if not, do it. Conan's Blood Eagle is worth a listen and USA Out of Vietnam is Doom adjacent and worthwhile too.
This album is amazing. Best trad doom of 2013. Radigan's voice is fucking fantastic.
just finished this
this is one of the better blackgaze albums I have heard (if you are into that kind of thing)
Not Alcest/Deafheaven/Lantlos tier, but it's good.
It suffers from being a little formulaic and drums just being double bass constantly through verses, but I really dig this
It borders on DSBM at times, and legitimately feels like an authentic atmospheric BM album a lot with the coarse vocals and extremely aggressive double bass and blast beats
It does get a little indulgent with the quieter post-rock bits but I think they pull it off well, even though there are times where it isn't even needed, they would just pull a easy going crescendo out of a blast beat or something
>Alcest having awful vocals
but if you are asking if this band has cleans, they don't.
They have some whisper shit going on at times, but that's as far as they go
>be at Wo Fat show right now
>speaker system fucked up creating a wall of noise louder than the guitar or bass
Not sure if I like it
First track is good, has a crusty feel that the rest of the album doesn't have
Most songs have a good part but a lot of it is kind of generic sounding. The vocalist sounds like Tomas Lindberg. They seem to be an Inter Arma side project
Favorite of mine, easily one of the best modern doom albums out there.
i can only recommend anything if what you're looking for is stuff reminiscent of brooding hatred. don't know anything brutal if that's what your rather into (try immolation's harnessing ruin for a combination of both?).
Adding this cause i dont think it gets posted enough.
Skelator is a pretty good band.
if you want to listen to some skelator
I guess it's this time of the year gain where i have to relisten to all the classics...
>sadness covers me like a blanket. tuck me in, let me die: the album.
It doesn't matter if it's wrong. If it's the name of the album, it's the way it should be labelled. Because that's how the artist intended it. Your take on it is completely irrelevant.
Are you retarded? You can't call something standard and generic if it was the first to do so. When it's brand new, it's not 'standard' or generic.
I'm gonna go ahead and assume you're like 16. If you were around when Cannibal first came out, you'd understand how they raised the bar for death metal.
If you find Cannibal Corpse boring but generally like death metal, there's a good chance you're a young kid who's into the watered down, truly generic death metal bands that ripped them off in the first place. Hilarious.
I wasn't that other dude and I never said anything about it being generic.
Also, only "im older than u kid" is something only said by projecting kids who feel more mature than they actually are. Or retards who think it's a good argument I guess.
if you like the Scott Burns sound then CC is one of the best of that era.
DsO went from shitty Darkthrone worship in their beginnings to extremely gaudy, longwinded spooky-scary-skeletons music in SMRC, to half-decent mathcore in Paracletus. No matter which era of DsO you listen to, they are middlebrow garbage and you have no taste in that particular style
So what's your point? You don't find Cannibal Corpse generic but I'm an idiot because I agree with you? You don't make sense. I responded to your post in the first place because it implied that you were agreeing with that other anon's claims of CC being standard/generic.
It's like calling Black Sabbath standard and generic because Saint Vitus and Electric Wizard borrow from their sound. It doesn't make sense. Sabbath invented that particular sound and style in the first place.
And he didn't say anything about it being good you fucking idiot.
He said it wasn't boring/generic. You said that he said it was good. He was simply responding saying it can't be generic if it was one of the first bands to do so. Can you just understand this?
No I didn't. CC is shit and it spawning many bands doesn't make it good.
He's making a point about it being "generic" whereas I never intended to on that in the first place.
Again, I'm not the other guy. I'm just calling CC shit.
He called it decent right here >>49242769, but then again I am only assuming that is still the same person.
Nice name-calling without a reason though. That sure helped strengthen your point.
Ok I can't belive I'm doing this but whatever. Look at the At the Gates and CoB pages.
Do you think this is the wrong way? I don't. I can totally see it being ok on the album art, but out of this context, it should be capitalized correctly.
You called him a retard so I don't know why you would even bring up name-calling.
Also it doesn't matter because he didn't say it was good BECAUSE it influenced a lot of bands, he simply used that fact to refute the other guy that said that they were shit because of being generic.
What are you even going on about? I told you I never intended to comment on that. I just call them shit.
Way to be condescending about not understanding something when that is exactly what you're doing right now, hypocrite.
Oh shit, you're right.
Indirectly. Could have been a projecting kid too. But yeah, using that as an argument is pretty retarded is what I was saying. the "you fucking idiot" aimed directly at me was just a slur based on assumptions.
I see your point though.
And yes, your second line is wholly true, I was assuming myself that he was referring that post to it being decent and I'm in the wrong for that one for the same reasons I stated above.
It would have to be an album which you can never get tired of hearing.
So that or Reverend Bizarre - In the Rectory of the Bizarre Reverend
thats either super outdated or it looks like someone moved shit around in photoshop
i like this version
Only if you're afraid that anonymous internet strangers will think less of you because you like a band that's popular, and therefor must suck. If you're capable of making your own decisions and forming your own opinions, you'll apply that process to Dimmu Borgir and any other band. These tweens on /mu/ will just keep circle jerking the same albums that were posted on a blog yesterday and continue to craft their finely tuned hipster images, while you'll be too busy enjoying what you like to care.
So, it's up to you, really.
>omg how can u think these bands are bad u suck! i will now voice my irrelevant dislike of u!
Bolt Thrower is cool. Can't comment on Incantation, but I see them compared to Immolation all the time so they can't be very good. Deicide is crap.
Has /mu/ heard this? one of the view videos of burning witch playing live, one of the heaviest things known to man. Feat Stephen o Malley from Sunn o)))
Some people start to upload our side of the split LP w/DIAPSIQUIR with shitty quality on Youtube (from their mobile phone) and it was also made available for download with the same kind of sound, so I’m forced to beat them to it by uploading the title on LMH’s Youtube channel.
The title will also be made available for free download on a comrade’s blog:
From Famine/La Mesnie Herlequin
What would you guys suggest for someone trying to get in Death Metal. Right now I'm listening to pic related and I think that it is okay. Never been a fan of fast paced metal which seems to be a theme in DM.
speed is kind of an essential part of pure death metal. it's not all fast 100% of the time, but get used to it.
Morbid Angel - Altars of Madness
Possessed - Seven Churches
Death - Scream Bloody Gore
Autopsy - Mental Funeral
well death doom is a thing
listen to disembowelment or esoteric (though they're borderline funeral doom)
i can't help but think that certain sections (specifically grind, melo- and doom) need a huge overhaul, but i did that list when i had less knowledge of the genre. for what it was, i think it was a success
i do usually post without trip but i felt like those statements wouldn't have made sense if i posted as anon :/ i almost never post except when doing shares or something related to my charts, anyways.
i've sort of been moving even further away from here because of fuckin' whitenoise but when i find a really rare release it's hard to resist sharing it
Hey did you guys know that Cradle of Filth actually used to be a pretty good death metal band? They released a couple demos before becoming a black metal band.
if you admitted that my rationale for putting up trip for that post was valid (and with it the implication that i only post to share as anon), why are you accusing me of attention-whoring? the only time i've brought up my personal life is to apologize for a delay in creating a promised sharethread. i don't post about what fucking t-shirts i bought or whatever.
eh whatever, this is pointless. i understand why you might think the way you do about me, and i know i won't convince you otherwise.
>deathcore listening pleb
I like both death metal and deathcore of "pleb" and "patrician" variants why is listening to deathcore suddenly a bad thing I never really understood that.
>You not liking them doesn't mean they're crap, dude. I don't understand why people do this.
This. I wish people would realise this more often.
Personally s/t is great, Legion is one of the best death metal albums ever (no hyperbole it's incredible for 1992), Once and Serpents were really catchy but not classic, but still had good songwriting.. Then they definitely faltered a bit until Scars which imo was quite underrated, Stench was a fantastic return to form then it all got a bit by-the-numbers for me for the next few albums (which tends to happen with most long-running bands these days if you ask me...)
Anyone like Exhumed?
Deathcore is the third worst thing to have happened to music.
Also refer to >>49244067.
I haven't listened to Incantation because they are always compared to Immolation whom I do not like. Are you retarded?
Also refer to >>49244067.
You seem pretty obnoxious with your incredibly strong opinions. Imagine your statements in a mild-mannered conversation about music
"Do you like deathcore?"
"DEATHCORE IS THE THIRD WORST THING TO HAVE HAPPENED TO MUSIC."
"Alright... what about Incantation? They're not deathcore.."
"I HAVEN'T LISTENED TO INCANTATION BECAUSE THEY ARE ALWAYS COMPARED TO IMMOLATION WHOM I DO NOT LIKE. ARE YOU RETARDED?"
Also furthermore I don't think Incantation is really anything like Immolation... I got into Immolation a lot more than Incantation which I never really got that into ..(case in point: I can recognise many Immolation songs but not really Incantation...)..
Plus Incantation was always more doomy and filthy whilst Immolation had a really eclectic, off-kilter and overall unholy approach to their metal..
hmm let's look at what i said in the archive:
"I’ll try to stay off /mu/ (though it does have a way of keeping you there forever), since the general vibe of 4chan isn’t something I like too much, and I’m starting to be too busy to be able to afford to spend time doing sharethreads. But I’m glad some people on here got a lot out of my threads! I sure enjoyed doing them."
i don't see "LEAVE FOREVER" in there
It's alright dude, you seem like a cool guy and I kinda relate with what you're saying.. /mu/ does have a way of keeping you here but the negative/angry vibe of 4chan really just makes you think "what the hell am I doing here still"
>"Do you like deathcore?"
That is not what was said at all.
>"Alright... what about Incantation? They're not deathcore.."
This is not what was said either and it is retarded because I said this earlier.
'Whom' is English, yes.
Why post against what I say when you don't have any good points?
It doesn't matter if you think it isn't, I heard earlier that it was which is my reason for not having listened to them in the past.
Thanks for the explanation though.
>It doesn't matter if you think it isn't, I heard earlier that it was which is my reason for not having listened to them in the past.
a silly reason to avoid a band, especially a famous one
i probably did at one point but i'd like to consider my archive to be the final statement, since it was intended as such
Why would it be a silly reason? I listened to Immolation, I didn't like them. I heard that Incantation is similar to a band I do not like. Thus I did not listen to them. Fame is completely irrelevant.
Morbid Angel should be for you. Also, try death/doom like pic related.
Doesn't matter since music tastes are subjective. but they were clearly more experimental with Orchid.
>I listened to Immolation, I didn't like them
I was going to call you AIDS in the shape of a man but to be fair they take some getting used to. Do yourself a favour and revisit them, trust me.
Maybe, but I don't care that much since again, I do not like Immolation. Why would I listen to things that are supposedly similar to things I do not like? The chances that I'll be wasting my time are high enough considering past experiences.
Morbid Angel - Blessed Are the Sick*
Forgot to mention the exact album.
>Doesn't matter since music tastes are subjective. but they were clearly more experimental with Orchid.
While both of those are true, it was also Morningrise that started to get them attention in the zines and everything.
Hmmm, I'm sure it's only a coincidence that their only 'good' record is the one that set the pattern for what they'd do over the next several albums AND is the one before they started to catch on. Because they'd obviously suck after the did the same things as they did on their first album but were getting more popular. You can't look cool in middle school or online when other people listen to the same bands as you do.
>just type in "broccoli",
Obviously I did, even though I spelled it wrong, as my post posted.
>i don't see what the problem is
Neither do I. I just mentioned it; you're the one making a big deal out of it. Perhaps you can explain?
Morbid Angel, Death, Deicide, Suffocation, Cannibal Corpse, Dying Fetus, ... I tried most of them. American death metal is not for me.
Some worse than others but I like none of them. I'm not going to waste my time checking out more of it or giving it more time until I have Stockholm syndrome because I'd rather listen to music I enjoy.
I'm sure there are exceptions but I'd much rather look for gold in a pile of gold than in a pile of shit.
>Hmmm, I'm sure it's only a coincidence that their only 'good' record is the one that set the pattern for what they'd do over the next several albums
this is the part that's actually true though, your pointless e-cred argument aside
generally once a band creates a formula, successive iterations of it rely on the same old ideas and are thus pretty redundant. there are very few bands that can get away with not evolving their sound, no matter the musical style. metal just happens to have lots of artists who are very complacent and formulaic
Why is deathcore a bad thing? Please can someone explain this to me? I used to hate deathcore because it was 'offensive' to my metal lifestyle back when I was 16 but now that I'm older it's just a modern variant of death metal with breakdowns to me.
Some worse than others like I said. Death is okay and definitely the best of the lot as far as I remember but not something I would often listen to.
Why would I be friendly towards people who are not friendly towards me? Either way I try to stay neutral even though I always end up being extremely passive aggressive.
I seriously can't believe that the whole "metal is badass, all the rest is gay shit for posers" thing is still relevant. I get extra cringe points, cause I use to be a part of that "debate". Once you get to a certain age, none of that shit matters guys/girls.
lots of deathcore has really sleek and plastic production, the "technicality" is just noodling around in diminished scales, the songwriting is formulaic as hell, and the aesthetic is obnoxious.
there's a few gems, mostly among the more hardcore-influenced side (see: burning skies, animosity) or the atmospheric side (kardashev, first contortionist ep) but it's a genre with a ton of redundant crap
Try Posessed- Seven Churches. Very early Death Metal and quite thrashy. Also Bolt Thrower are catchy as hell. I'm not a fan of traditional death metal "cookie monster" vocals, but in some cases the music is good enough for me to look past it.
Atheist was on my checklist for a long time, but that is prog/tech death as far as I know. Different genre.
I ended up not checking them since I don't really care any more, and my backlog is big enough as is.
I appreciate the recommendations though.
All the deathcore I've heard substitutes riffs for mindless chugging, any actual atmosphere for pseudo-'heaviness' (downtuning as low as you can go for the fuck of it), has awful vocals (squeals), a wannabe-tough-guy attitude/essence, etc.
Anyone give this album a listen? Definitely one of my candidates for AOTYSF. Solid atmospheric black with a fair amount of punk detours but it works.
>substitutes riffs for mindless chugging
there are very few good riff-writers in the genre, yeah
within the ruins and substructure are honestly not too bad though. and the stuff which is basically mathcore, like see you next tuesday, journal, schoenberg automaton, etc. is good
Really killer record. In my AOTYSF as well.
Fair enough though I do find a lot of modern metal albums from old established bands (eg Overkill, Dark Tranquillity) have extremely sterile production. I don't really listen to deathcore that much anymore but I go for it if I'm in the mood for rock-stupid in your face caveman breakdowns where you switch your brain off. Suicide Silence is probably the best for that.
The 'tech' parts are just nice buildups to that shit (Probably why Whitechapel's new stuff isn't as good to me as the older stuff.. too much "tech". Saying that the more 'progressive' 'djenty' deathcore bands like Veil of Maya are ace.). I don't think the aesthetic is any different from the aesthetic of other metal bands really - same shit but in a different way.
Good recommendations though.
>downtuning as low as you can
Haha that's why I like it, it's so retarded you can't take it too seriously! Waking The Cadaver were perfect for that in terms of sheer ridiculousness... Hell a lot of that can be attributed to slam death.. which is probably more ridiculous hahaha. Cephalotripsy, Epicardiectomy, Guttural Secrete.. What daft sounding bands, but fantastic.
Yeah Within The Ruins are good. I do love the chugs though. There are genres of metal you listen to for the riffs and some of the 'false' genres if you listen on a chug basis are just plain fun..
>I don't really listen to deathcore that much anymore but I go for it if I'm in the mood for rock-stupid in your face caveman breakdowns where you switch your brain off. Suicide Silence is probably the best for that.
i suppose so
impending doom are also pretty fun in the right mood
REPENT, PRAISE JESUS
You might not take them seriously but a lot of the bands themselves do.
I'm not telling you you can't have fun with things but you can't deny deathcore is a weak genre full of rehashes and bland, shallow music.
Thus, people who are more serious about music are going to despise it for just being bad.
To put it in /v/ terms, you can have fun with Call of Duty all you want but there are much better shooters out there.
What does /mu/ think of Aura Noir? I fucking love it, great mix of thrash speed and black metal grit and grimness. Riffs are catchy as hell too.
Haha most hardcore and metal bands and fans take it all too seriously
I personally think both core and metal are full of rehashes and bland shallow music
I'm pretty serious about music in that I love listening to all kinds of music 'artistically' and 'objectively' good or bad... I don't really have room for hating music??
Saying that, my point is null because I'd rather play Call of Duty anyway :P
>you're a faggot.
yes but why is this relevant to my chart
i'm not good at font recognition and thought i'd throw in a little joke, apologies. it's fixed in the final chart anyways
Are there any albums out there similar to The Satanist, only less... song-based? Like, i'm talking something similar sonically and vocally, but with tracks that meander and wander.
Basically, i'm looking for something like The Satanist that's structured more like a Wolves in the Throne Room record.
"Best" goes to Graveforests and their Shadows - Walknut, but "favorite" goes to Tietäjän Laulu - Kauan. I realize that neither are popular choices and the second doesn't count as metal in a lot of people's books. Yes, I made that distinction. Yes, I am a pleb.
Enthrone Darkness Triumphant has the most 'bearable' Peter Tagtgren production job. I can't stand the production of The Antichrist or Hypocrisy's later stuff.
The album itself is pretty decent, so were Stormblast and Spiritual Black Dimensions. For all tid is mediocre, and I never cared for the rest.
Their earlier albums like "Zos Kia Cultus" and "Demigod" were clearly death metal. The Satanist is way closer to their first couple of albums like "Grom" than for example "Evangelion"
Does anyone know any interesting metal blogs or sites where I can get download links an reviews for new and especially less talked about metal albums?
I visit realmofmetal about once a week and its pretty decent, and sludgelord (only posts links to already free bandcamps but they have good taste and post a lot of under the radar shit)
it's not enough though I have been having a blast keeping up with as much music as possible this year but I need more