>>49460715 Pretty sure beat music died in 2011 man
Interesting that you bring it up though--are you implying that R+7 is beat music? not that i think you are, but theres barely any drums on this album. I love the way he's created such a rhythmically active album with barely any traditional percussion
>>49460938 nah im saying it doesnt. only interestingly the only songs that even contain kick drums are the very last two tracks on the album. Still Life has a kick during the trancey section, and Chrome Country has the most active and prominent kick drum that OPN has ever laid down
It just makes me very pleased to see his progression from Rifts all the way to R+7--Rifts is so devoid of transients and rhythm, and R+7 has got these angular and syncopated rhythmic gestures coming at you from every which way, it's just so wonderful
>>49460740 not him and sort of unrelated but I remember reading an interview with daniel where he said that he's always had a hard time programming drums, which is part of the reason why he started making the type of music he does.
I thought that was sort of funny, especially since his music is pretty meticulous, or at least it sounds that way / he's making the music he does sort of incidentally
>>49461426 I wasnt implying that their music is stylistically similar, but now that you bring it up i can certainly make comparisons. R+7 is a symphonic piece of music by nature, and his love of ostinato and arpeggiation is very comparable to minimalists like reich and glass
But he's such a goofball. I'm almost 100% certain he doesn't consider what he's doing to be "art" in the hyper-intense, lofty sense that /mu/ means whenever they use that word. It's a little more primal, which is good. He makes music that would be hilariously pretentious and stuffy if he was any different, or if the music itself was "ART".
It's something to vibe to. Good, for sure. I'd even go as far to say that it kind of lives in a weird space between shallow entertainment and "real" art.
Definitely a genius though. He only has one release I really dislike (Hollyr). I'd consider him a favorite if not THE favorite.
I've been liking Returnal more and more the more I listen to it. It's not really special like his last two records but it's just...good synth music. Replica used to be my favorite but it definitely falters in some parts. I'm weirdly ambivalent about R+7. Haven't quite puzzled out how I feel about it yet.
Stress Waves is probably my favorite thing that he's done, ever. Could listen to that for days.
>>49462228 the only reason i was bringing up great artists of the past was to provide reason to look past things at a surface level
very often on /mu/ on see R+ criticized as being nothing but cheesy sounds, and perhaps i'm just getting trolled, but if people truly believe that i just wish they could be more attentive to whats going on and realize the turmoil and beauty that's present
i just wish everyone on earth could be more attentive this way, in all aspects of their lives. i think it's a little thing that could make the world a "better" place
>>49462339 Not the guy you're responding to, but I agree whole heartedly. I've listened to "difficult" music in the bast, but R + 7 opened me up in a sort of weird way. I listened to it this past winter and it felt like the first time I'd really /heard/ music. Like, it takes a bit of attention to listen to OPN. You can't just listen to it passively. I've since been reevaluating how I listen to all music and it feels as though it's spilling into my life as well. I blame my 4.0 last semester on OPN and beer.
>>49462138 It was in that redbull academy lecture I think here's the whole thing:
yeah, it was there here's the part:
Participant: The Oneohtrix stuff you do doesn’t have much drums on it. Was that an aesthetic decision or was it just that drums are hard?
Oneohtrix Point Never: Drums are very hard, I’m not good at them to be honest. I never was, it’s my air instrument. Whenever I fantasize about coming back in another lifetime I’m a drummer and I’m wearing mesh shorts and just pounding away. It’s incredible, I think there’s a way to insinuate rhythm without having severe drum skills.
Participant: I know what you mean, using arpeggiation or all sorts of things, but let’s say that tomorrow you wake up in your mesh shorts and you’re an awesome drummer, would you have drums on that stuff? Or have you developed rhythm in such a way that now it’s done?
Oneohtrix Point Never: I know what you mean, but I don’t think so, not in this lifetime. What I’m good at doing is creating this slightly offset space, this space that’s my own and part of it was when you have the rhythm track that’s hard that’s fixed, you’re on rails, in a way that I’m never comfortable with in my musical context. But clearly, Premier is fucking awesome. I listen to so much music with drums that I don’t feel is limited by those drums whatsoever. If I added drums I’d just feel like I’m doing some Flying Lotus stuff or whatever. And he’s real good at what he does, but I don’t think it’s for me necessarily.
>>49462795 I can get why you feel that way interms of finding his music to be stagnant. I haven't read too many interview with him discussing the motivation he has behind his music, so forgive me for asking what you find bland about his message
>>49464835 If you listen close enough you will notice that it's not just a loop. If you think about how drums are structured in a song they are pretty much looped in a lot of pop music. Just pretend that the loop is the drums to this track.
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