Can anyone recommend me some jazz that's just absolutely bonkers (sort of like pic related)?
My only experience with jazz is a few John Coltrane albums, although they really didn't have much of a wild tone.
I know what you mean, Coltrane is so middle-of-the-road formulaic shit.
someone made me this list a while ago... i've as of yet only listened to Nefertiti and Bitches Brew.
- late 60s to 70s Miles Davis (Nefertiti, Filles de Kilimanjaro, Bitches Brew, A Tribute to Jack Johnson, On the Corner, Big Fun)
- fusion Herbie Hancock (Mwandishi, Crossings, Sextant)
- Tony Williams (Life Time, Emergency!)
pic related is the craziest album i ever heard
all you've done is bitch. either contribute an actual thought or shut the fuck up, you massive baby. jesus christ did you forget to drink your almond milk today or something? why are so many weak ass niggas browsing /mu/ now?
its not as wonky or jazz fusiony but Vtgnike is worth checking out
>those snare ghost notes on Eyes Above around the 00:48 mark
If anyone can recommend more jazz tracks with that kind of drumming, that would be amazing
Yea would never describe Coltrane as "wild" or "noisy" or "totally off the wall" /s
but seriously listen to these albums op
I listened to Bitches Brew before and didn't understand it. Then I listened to You're Dead and it changed the way I thought about jazz. Then I went back and listened to Bitches Brew again and it blew my mind. It might be a pleb thing to say but You're Dead got me into jazz.
>It might be a pleb thing to say but You're Dead got me into jazz.
I think its good there's such an album that can make that happen. I had to revisit Bitches Brew a couple of times over a long time because it wouldn't click with me, but once it did I was completely blown away.
It's not a pleb thing. Flylo said You're Dead was originally going to be a huge 30 track fast-paced completely bonkers jazz album. So a lot of songs on You're Dead are still pieces of that idea
he was being sarcastic...
great choice, sun ra always nails that "out there" feeling, especially on something like space is the place or atlantis
also pic related for literally Flylo related insanity
>middle of the road
the dude was instrumental in developing free jazz, how is that in any way simple or middle of the road? half of coltrane's material, or more than that, is not entry level whatsoever. I feel as though internet message boards make his music seem more accessible, but ascension and on is not remotely for new listeners to jazz. I would somewhat understand blue train, work on KoB, favorite things, giant steps, and ole, but I'd probably show someone louis armstrong and charlie parker first
Nah, people who are new to jazz don't usually understand the genius of louie and charlie. i know i didn't. The best stuff to show someone who wants to get into jazz is probably the albums you listed, some jazz messengers, miles davis 1st and 2nd quintet, and probably The bill evans trio albums with Scott LaFaro.
I meant as an introduction to jazz generally, to show development while still being engaging. Agreed about ALS, not particularly complex but also certainly not simple in the grand scheme of things. however later work like Meditations, Interstellar Space, and live stuff like VV Again and Olatunji are extremely complex and chaotic. are you interested in free jazz generally, or moreso in fusion a la BB?
Is this really true? Kinda makes me sad, but maybe my experience is that those two work well for students learning soloing, but for people generally you might be right. Maybe some Brubeck or early mingus/mid career ellington too?
Brubeck, early mingus and mid career ellington would definitely work too. And i'm sure that there's a lot more artists and albums that are a good introduction for people who want to get into jazz.