and holy shit are they fucking different.
Well I feel like an idiot. I googled "new st. vincent song" looking for the song from Girls, and this was the first result.
There are two new songs coming out soon. One is called Bad Believer, which is supposed to be released on iTunes tomorrow as well as being one of the bonus tracks on the new deluxe edition of S/T. The other is called Teenage Talk, which is going to be the credits song for an episode of some HBO show called Girls.
Most likely they're both leftover songs from the recording of S/T like Pieta and Sparrow were. If you look on last.fm there are already a few scrobbles of Bad Believer, though I don't know if they're real or not. One of them points towards the song being an instrumental, which I wouldn't really oppose.
firt time i heard this this track. It's pretty shit. it's honestly like she wanted to be punk rock after getting fucked by Dave Growl and she was watching documentaries online and decided krocodil was something she could make a song about even though it has nothing to do with her. it seems really contrived and disingenuous. the transparent reaching to make a song like this is just off putting. worse still everyone will like this and think she is being so fucking real when she is just being a poser. it's like tayor swift putting on hip hop garb.
Still the best stuff she's made. Noise rock album when?
She likes punk, metal, etc. She played in a metal band in middle school and was in a noise band for a little bit at some point. And she's covered punk/noise rock songs before. The ones reaching seem to be the people criticizing everything that she does for various stupid reasons. I don't know what it is about her that attracts people calling out her every move. People seem offended by her very existence.
Krokodil had everybody bobbing their heads in a meager display of enthusiam when I saw her at Liberty Hall, in Lawrence KS, on March 31 2014, at 7 PM. Noveller opened for her. The backing music didn't play on her first song and she seemed mildy irritated but the mixing guys got it fixed. It was interesting way to ease into the amazing performance that would follow from St. Vincent.
it' not even the genre, it' what the song is about and that is has nothing to say. it is a shit song. It's like the kind of shit a million moronic punk bands would make. It's just dumb. All I can picture i her learning about the substance online and going hurr I'll make a song about that, that word sounds cool and that shit is like hurr fuck up yo
Honestly, I like Krokodil but I don't really like it live. Her falling all over the place is kind of annoying. I'd much rather see her actually play the guitar in the song rather than Toko. I kind of liked the crowd surfing but since she's not doing that anymore and just falling all over the stage (which also messes with the vocals) I don't really like it live.
I'm pretty sure she's said she didn't know about the drug before making the song. I don't know how that's possible but that's what (I'm pretty sure) she said.
>All I can picture i her learning about the substance online and going hurr I'll make a song about that, that word sounds cool
She found out about a horrible, poisonous drug and thought that it would fit a song. What's supposed to be terrible about that?
>She found out about a horrible, poisonous drug and thought that it would fit a song. What's supposed to be terrible about that?
the song has nothing significant to say about it and she has no personal connection to it. doesn't that just strike you as cheap exploitive song writing? If the song were actually good then it would be excusable but the song is pretty shit. it's just not creative. the amount of thought put into it is insulting, it's like a cookie cutter way to make a song of that style.
if she said that she is either lying or it is a case of crypomenesia, and i seriously doubt the latter.
>the song has nothing significant to say about it and she has no personal connection to it
A person has to have a personal connection to something to sing about it? Something significant and deep has to be expressed in every song?
Being a very attractive, talented woman has it's downfalls. People just fucking hate you for no reason.
Who says the song is literally about the drug? Why would it matter? It's a pretty blatant homage to one of her musical influences, so creativity wasn't exactly the point. (And did you just criticize a punk song for having no thought put into it? kek)
Is that when you forget how a word is spelled?
Lena Dunham, the writer of Girls, had an anecdote in her autobiography about how she played sexual games with her younger sister once (like many kids do). Conservatives went batshit over it, because they hate competition in the child rape market.
what is it blatant homage to?
also yeah noted about the puck thing. It just bothers me because I think the song is poor song writing, and it's shitty, and everyone will fucking love it. I am sick of people raving over mediocre shit. This song is the kind of shit I would expect to hear from 14 year old kids who make shitty bands and play shit shows while people have to sit through their shit waiting to see the local band they actually came to see.
Cryptomenesia is when you take an idea from one place and copy it accidentally thinking it is an original idea you had, because you forgot about it.
>what is it blatant homage to?
To punk and post-punk she grew up with. It's dumb and fun because teenagers like dumb fun, and she tried to channel her nostalgia for that dumb excitement in a song, hoping the audience would recognize it. You clearly didn't. Maybe you were too cool for punk as a kid.
>she tried to channel her nostalgia
jesus you think that's a good thing? enjoy your death culture. Your post illustrates everything that is wrong with the song better than anything I could articulate previously.
as far as current music goes there isn't much that I like right now. Death Grips is one of the only current acts I like. Tim Buckly, Sonny Sharrock Autechre, Jimi Hendrix, Frank Zappa, Idk what you want (besides making fun of me), like I'm not just gonna list a thousand bands, I like a lot of shit. Most current popular music falls under the umbrella of nostalgia music. Retromania is real. Music is all shit now. I am more concerned with my own music rather than keeping up with new hyped retroshits anyway.
Oh I vaguely remember hearing about that. Shit's fucked up
No fun allowed. Not ever. Our culture is dead forever because one artist wrote one nostalgic song.
>Death Grips is one of the only current acts I like
Truly the avant-garde of our generation.
what does that have to do with anything at all?
if you think mediocre song like this are fun they you it's nice that you are ignorant enough to not be jaded and realize how shit they are and how shit culture is right now because of the lack of talent an- you know what, find that thread with all the billy corgan interviews, read retreomania, learn some history, learn some sociology, listen to more music, then come talk to me and tell me that this song is not mediocre garbage.
>read retreomania, learn some history, learn some sociology, listen to more music, then come talk to me and tell me that this song is not mediocre garbage.
Because clearly, we humans can't truly appreciate the sensation of rhythmic, tonal sounds entering our ears without a thorough background in history and sociology.
I've read Retromania. It will pass, like all musical trends. Besides, what makes you think music has to be completely innovative to be good? By that standard, there must be precious little music in the whole Western canon you can enjoy.
you are missing the point. you have shit taste that's pretty much all and that's fine, but other people would rather hear better music. just fucking stop I don't care man. Like I said it's a shit song.
I like how you changed your argument from "It's shit, the writing is shit" to:
>read retreomania, learn some history, learn some sociology, listen to more music, then come talk to me
If only we could have known how sophisticated your taste is we would have never challenged you.
The points you are making are just bizarre. The only real reason you have given for hating this song is that it comes from a genre or style of the past. Surely you realize how much great music that would apply to. And I have no idea why you have chosen this particular song. If you want to complain about derivative music that is current there are about a million far better examples.
>you have shit taste
>says the person who only likes Death Grips out of all modern music