Do you guys just focus on music or do you try to have a well-rounded taste in art? What other types of art are you interested in besides music?
I prefer music over any other form of art. I'm an idiot when it comes to movies. I pretty much only read non-fiction books, and the only art I like are pictures/paintings of landscapes or water.
Opera is theatre + music. It usually is way more spectacle with grand scenery and costumes. They sing, dance and not just talk. I mean Shakespeare is great, but all the modern theatre performances I saw of his work was terrible.
Their taste in movies is odd to say the least.
I loved video games as a kid / teen. And I think there are a few dozen games that can very well be considered art. Also having fun is fun.
What do you mean? How would I know what kind you would enjoy. Just check out some exhibitions in your city. A lot of them are free, atleast where I come from.
>Their taste in movies is odd to say the least.
I mean it's not like /mu/never talks about pop artists (Taylor Swift, Kanye, Charlie XCX) but it's balanced out. /tv/ only talks about the most popular blockbusters, threads on niche movies will either get 3 replies or get you called a fedora. Nothing besides superhero movies is allowed.
I really wish i knew more about the arts, especially visual arts, but from what i've seen /ic/ is just /deviantart/. i'm slowly getting better taste in movies, i've really liked some of the arthouse i've seen
I took a Philosophical Themes in Film class my senior year of highschool and we watched Avatar. I suggested we do a Razzies type of thing since the class had an Academy Awards-style vote at the end of the year, people were getting pissed off that me and two other guys had nominated Avatar for a couple of Razzie categories
I love watching films, and consider my taste pretty good. Also into visual art, been taking photos for 10 years. Sadly I never prioritize my time for reading, I like doing it but have really surface-level taste
My main focus is and has always been film
The only reason I main /mu/ is because /tv/ is terrible for anything film-related and music is the only other art-form that I can really say I have any kind of passion for
Pretending James Cameron is an unstoppable genius is a meme on /tv/
Not trying to defend them at all, just making sure you know that's a joke
I'm the most well-versed in music, mostly because it's the easiest to get access to and is the least time-consuming, but I've been trying to get into film and literature and poetry lately. Having better success with film since reading takes a lot of time and I don't have a whole lot of that, being in college and all. /lit/ is probably the only consistently decent-or-better board on 4chan regarding art, seeing as most of the people on /mu/ and /tv/ are fucking stupid and not very thoughtful or critical about the art they consume. I also like painting and photography, but I know very little about either, and mostly just absorb them when I run into them rather than actively seeking them out.
I used to be pretty into movies, but I focus mostly on music. I watch movies with my film-buff friend from time to time. Last "good" movie I saw was Inherent Vice. Last art-film I saw was Hausu I think.
If I had money to buy DVDs and stuff, I would. Torrenting is just such a pain in the ass. It's way easier to pirate music.
I like the arts that include music, so opera and ballet
I like plays a lot and galleries are a nice day out too
>tfw no matter what tv told you, girls don't actually want you to take them to the ballet
I spend as much time watching movies as I do listening to music. I was a /tv/ regular before I started browsing /mu/.
I have never experienced a performance from any actor that even comes close to Peter Lorre, except for maybe Klaus Kinski.
audio art > video art (not movies) > performance art > installation/ multi-sensual art > multimedia > computer / technology based art > social art > painting/ printmaking 2d fine arts > sculpture / 3d fine arts > fashion > illustration / comics >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> graphic design >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> movies >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> books / literary arts >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> video games
Days of Heaven is visually one of the most beautiful films I've ever seen
I can't narrow it down to one, but I can narrow it down to 16
Days of Heaven
La Dolce Vita
lol. liking video games is childish. im not sure if i would consider them art except other people were listing them so i did too. i guess i shouldnt completely disregard the medium. the idea of creating virtual realities or interactive audio and visual is very fascinating. but "games" in general reads to me as very low brow. a game is something for entertainment and feeds to the most basic human instincts. therefor i view it as the lowest form of art.
Hey man just appreciating her beauty
Also if he was guy why did he make all those scenes in Blue Velvet and Wild at Heart and Lost Highway and stuff
I always thought of him as a sort of dirty old man
That's why the best games ever aren't really games in the traditional sense, because there's no "winning" or "scores" or anything like that. It's nowhere near, and may never be anywhere near, the level of cinema, but it can do things other mediums can't
Interactivity is seen by many as a roadblock to it's the medium's artistic credibility, but I think it leaves a lot of options open that just need to be explored. I think the main reason it isn't being explored to it's full potential is because of people like you. Who's to say what we would if there were minds as great as Bergman creating "games", but that will never happen because of it's reputation as a child's medium
I know a lot of movies that get praised with shit tier screen writing. I also know a atleast a few dozens video games that have great stories and well written characters. Also there are a lot of games with great visual ideas, so if people consider Star Wars movies and Avatar art I don't see why they wouldn't consider something like the Ultima series art.
>I always thought of him as a sort of dirty old man
A videogame contains visual art from artists, music from artists, and written stories from writers. Most mainstream games are shit but your point of perspective seems like the same some people have toward modern music. They only see the surface and think it's superficial.
I would consider few games art, mostly since this new "art form" is still in its infancy, but I don't think you are able to call something not art because it's entertaining and feeds to basic human instincts. The same could be said for all forms of media, and isn't most art made to create some sort of instinctual response?
I think a lot of it comes from a lot of game creators are rejects from other fields. A lot of writers there couldn't make it in more respected fields so writing for games is one of their last options. Not to say their isn't any good writers, but mediocre writing in a game can be considered great by a lot of people who only play games and do not enjoy any other art forms.
By the way has anyone here ever read Hideki Anno's interview last year about why anime has been going down hill (I think that's his name). It applies to a lot of different media really, a lot of people now get more fixated on particular pieces of art so the art they create suffer. His whole argument is how old anime creators were big into film and literature and now newer ones are only taking from other things at a surface level, like new game creators might only take elements of blockbuster movies because they don't know any better.
The original Star Wars doesn't compare to any video game ever, and this is coming from a proponent of games as art
Avatar and the others in the trilogy, yes, but I think you may be underrating Star Wars. It is one of the great myths of the 20th century. It seamlessly blends the Western, the epic saga, the folk tale and the war film in the best possible way. One of the greatest adventures ever put on the screen, it plays almost like a catalog of all the cinematic tricks before it's time, just as Citizen Kane did for it's time (I'm not exactly saying it's as brilliant as Kane)
I'm pretty knowledgeable about novels, film, video games, and visual art. Also I really enjoy theater, poetry and fashion, but I'm less knowledgeable.
I have a contemporary bent to everything though, I'm really not one for classics. To me music and film started in 1950, novels and paintings were first produced around 1850.
You'll be a lot happier if you did. I recently forced myself to spend most of the time I would wasting away on /mu/ reading or watching films, and now I only come here on occasion
It's just a good feeling
well everything is art i guess. making food and taking a shit are both art. your post was art mine is too. and video games are art. but you can't compare any of these things to a monet painting.
I think it's safe to say that anyone who doesn't think literature is the best of all arts in terms of containing the most powerful and enduring material, is a total and utter pleb. Virtually every original philosophical notion was first explored in literature, and has for the most part been explored most interestingly through literature.
I think it's safe to say that anyone who thinks (medium) is better than (medium) is a complete and utter pleb
How can you compare to things as different as cinema and literature? It doesn't even make sense
Literature, comic books, movies. I would get into painting and sculpture and such, but it seems to have a higher barrier of entry, and older ones seem to require a great deal of historical context to know what the fuck I'm looking beyond "that's pretty."
Film and video games have both similar potentials to be art I would say, video games are just newer and more business oriented as of now.
You can't compare anything new to something so established such as the art of painting. Art can be a multitude of things, and there have been games made to express the creator and their vision, which means it is art to me.
The game Deadly Premonition is basically a bunch of people obsessed with Twin Peaks trying to make a game that gives the same feeling as Twin Peaks while making it their own. They are expressing themselves and taking influences from other art. There might not be any great visionaries in the medium to more established art forms but it's nearsighted to think it can't be art. It's like looking at mediocre radio pop music and stating no music is art.
I don't really even play games. I think they could be great, and that there are great ones, but overall right now most are shit.
I think the best literature explores various themes and ideas more profoundly and interestingly; furthermore, I think the best works of literature are more powerful than the best works of other art forms I've seen. I'd say cinema comes second, though, if we're to combine literature with poetry.
I'm talking about how well the ideas are explored and presented, not that there is something inherently better about medium X than medium Y.
I do too. Some chefs are really inventive skilled artisans that do things that many people couldn't do with food. I would consider skilled blacksmiths and woodworkers artists too. Have you seen how insane they can design some things?
Of course. You could probably make the case that while food is an art it's the easiest to be appreciated. And as such, most only look at the surface since it's so accessible. Some people can pick out even the most insignificant and small flavor in foods, like someone analytically listening to music.
>tfw all wine tastes the same to me
>tfw wine pleb
I didn't mean to imply that. I meant to say that I think it's pretty self-evident that literature contains the strongest content by and large. Obviously just my opinion. There's plenty of fantastic work in music and cinema etc etc.
I found it to be really gripping, I read it in the span of a day. If you don't enjoy the unconventional format than you likely won't enjoy the book, but if you do I think it's a rewarding read. It's very open ended, so if you like coming up with your own explanations and connections than you'd enjoy it
And to be fair, I'm not very well read. I'm getting more into it, but I have terrible time management and willpower.
>I read a book in one day!!!!!!!
>that must mean it's really really good!!!!!
fuck off pleb