Gentle Giant Is Fantastic edition
Discussion question: what's the best band of the big six (King Crimson, Genesis, Yes, Jethro Tull, Pink Floyd and Emerson Lake and Palmer)?
What have yall been listening to?
Been listening to this sexy ass thing.
Order of enjoyment of big english prog bands:
Van Der Graaf Generator
Emerson, Lake & Palmer
They all have at least one track I enjoy thoroughly though.
>be me 2 years ago listening to GG's discog in order for the first time
>Just spent past 2 weeks or so listening to and loving Playing the Fool
>one of the best live albums I'd ever heard at the time and was thinking they were really back on track after the somewhat shaky Interview
Crimson > Floyd > Tull > Yes >Genesis > ELP
Anyway I've been listening to Norwegian band Airbag, pretty good modern prog.
anyone /progg/ in here?
tell me if there's something i need to add/remove from this chart
best to worst
i grew up to jethro tull so i might be slightly biased
emerson, lake and palmer
>ELP above anything
I mean, they're more experimental. But I just listed the objective big six. It's not a matter of quality, it's just the biggest bands in the genre. You name dropping other bands doesn't change that.
Among all 7 there, GG blew my mind the most when I first listened to it, but hasn't stood the test of time so well.
Of the big 6, KC is my favorite. I could listen to them just about every day. Especially mid-70s and 80s albums.
Yes and Genesis are a close second.
ELP has its moments.
Gotta say Tull is last for me.
Like another poster, if I'm allowed to include vdGG, they're tied for first. Hammill is a genius lyricist, and his voice can knock down buildings.
And for the guy posting Area, Crac! is fantastic. Speaking of world-ending voices, oh my god....
Does anyone here like neo-prog? (Marillion, IQ, Pendragon)? I mostly see people hating on these bands although I don't understand why.
>GG blew my mind the most when I first listened to it, but hasn't stood the test of time so well.
I know this feel too well. I still think of them with kindness but man, they used to be my favourite band.
Is this the greatest prog performance ever captured on film?
>tfw I've listened to hundreds of prog albums and it's one of my favorite genres
>none of these "Big Six" have ever really wowed me
Is there something wrong with me?
I've heard it ELP's first album, it was pretty good; Pink Floyd had three great albums but a bunch of mediocre ones; Jethro Tull, I've only heard their first two but they were two of the worst albums I've ever heard so now I avoid them like the plague; never heard a Yes album; heard one Genesis album and it seemed alright but need to hear one of their 'canon' albums yet; heard the first six or so King Crimson albums and after the first one it all felt so basic, I love (No Pussyfooting) though
>never heard a Yes album
Since you are prog-initiated start with Close to the Edge. I swear to god that the title track is the pinnacle of anglo/symphonic prog.
If you like it, go to The Yes Album, and if you are still there after it, Fragile
Coming from a guy who's currently drunk and does not know Can's history all that much, I've always viewed Future Days as the full blown "sell out" album of the 3 major hits. To me it's definitely the most accessible.
My fear with Yes is that they are hyped so much on this board (or at least in the years I've been here) and I'm worried they will be a huge disappointment like a lot of the other prog that gets called the best around here (such as Dark Side of the Moon).
In general I don't listen to a lot of the big names in mainstream but rather all the subgenres. That said, I did recently listen to a Camel album and I was expecting the worst but actually found myself pleasantly surprised. Also checked out some Gentle Giant (Acquiring the Taste) and while I thought Side A was bland, Side B was pretty good.
Next you're going to tell me Faust wasn't a pop band.
Don't be disappointed, a lot of people love the watered-down nature, it's the favorite of a lot of people.
Historically it's the album they made after they got a Top 10 single (which is included on the album). You think Future Days is the most accessible because like a true pleb you confuse ambience for accessibility. You don't understand the nature of pop music.
Can didn't start to sell out until Soon Over Babaluma, and even that album has a distinct sound.
Ege Bamyasi isn't that much more accessible, although it does have Can's most commercially successful song on it.
Start with Fragile. If you enjoy it move on to Close to the Edge. After that go back to the Yes Album. After that I would say to either stop or listen to whatever. Fragile, Close to the Edge, and the Yes Album are the must listens.
You know, like a lot of the classics: Faust, The Mothers of Invention, Pärson Sound/International Harvester, Amon Düül, Amon Düül II, Family, Annexus Quam, Catherine Ribeiro + Alpes, Can, Area, Hero, Moolah, Horrific Child, Art Zoyd, Univers Zero, Shub-Niggurath, Skeleton Crew, etc.
And of course I love a lot of stuff that is prog-like, but not progressive rock itself.
It's not that I see Yes recommended all the time, it's more that when I see that album come up, everyone who does comment on it calls it the greatest album of all time. Those are the sorts of things that stick with me. It's not seeing an album get posted a lot, it's seeing it being loved by everyone who talks about it.
I really like how diverse the prog community on /mu/ is. Some people prefer krautrock, theres people that are more for avantprog, and theres people like me that just like good ol anglo prog. Of course I listen to albums that arent traditional anglo prog, but Im glad we all have different prog genres were firmly rooted in.
I really couldn't choose a favorite, I like a lot of albums from pretty much all of them. A band I would suggest that I don't see too often is Hostsonaten, basically modern mostly instrumental italian prog.
One of my favorite hidden gems though would have to be Bacamarte
Honestly, as someone who REALLY started to get into prog with Yes, they're a good starting point. It's long overdue for you to listen to them. I'd recommend, if anything, start with The Yes Album. It's very nice but nothing mind blowing. Then Fragile to CTTE.
Personally Close to the Edge is my favorite and the order I provided is like 8/10 to a 9/10 to a 10/10.
As for Gentle Giant, check out their self titled, Octopus, and The Power and the Glory. I haven't ventured much farther than that when it comes to them, but those are all terrific.
Camel I'd say only has two albums I don't get tired of (Mirage/Moonmadness), but the snow goose is also pretty good. I've gotten pretty tired of them, but Mirage is still fucking 10/10
Still Life is also really good. Pretty much H to He through Still Life are amazing listens. The Least we can do is Wave to Each Other is good too, although I don't think it reaches the same heights as the other 4.
Anyone else not really get into Van der graff generator? Maybe I need to give them another go but they didn't seem to offer anything different to me. Then again I really like symphonic prog, lots of mellotron, shit like that.
If you haven't I would give Pawn Hearts a shot, especially Plague of Lighthouse Keepers. Godbluff is also great, but is a bit different from Pawn Hearts, has more of a raw, darker feeling to it.
Maybe it just hasn't clicked with me yet. One of my favorite prog acts was Gabriel era Genesis, so voice shouldn't be TOO hard to get over.
I'll have to. I downloaded their whole discography last year and just jumped in, probably just overwhelmed myself or something. I believe I started with Godbluff
Yeah I'm not 100% sure if Godbluff would be the best starting album, don't get me wrong I think it's fantastic, but it's a bit different from their previous releases. Pawn Hearts is amazing, Plague of Lighthouse Keepers being one of my favorite songs of all time, and H to He is really good too.
Gentle Giant were very talented, but too damn goofy for me to really like their music. They were what Phish wanted to be. And I hate Phish.
That said, this is a pretty good showcase of their talent:
For all of you who like Genesis, you really need to see The Musical Box if they come to your town. Literally the best live show I've been to.
They performed Selling England by the Pound, plus a few other favorites (Watcher of the Skies, Supper's Ready, The Knife, The Musical Box), costumes and all. Every detail from the original shows fucking nailed. I've seen Steve Hackett's Genesis Revisited tour as well, and while that dude sounds KINDA like Gabriel, this dude sounds like fucking exact. I hate the idea of cover bands in general but they exceeded my astronomical expectations.
What'd you guys think of this? I thought it was generic but enjoyed the dude's vocal quality and there were some pretty neat guitar fills
I saw them do the Foxtrot concert a few days ago. Kinda wish I saw the Selling England tour, but whatever. Fucking amazing. It was like going back in time to see Genesis play live in the early 70s. The dude seriously sounds EXACTLY like Peter, and he does all the costumes and stories too. They treat it more like a retelling of a play rather than a cover band.
Yeah I feel you on the Foxtrot part, I'd kinda feel ripped off myself, considering my two favorite tracks from that album are Watcher of the Skies and Supper's Ready, which they pretty much always play regardless of which album they're performing. As much as I'd love to hear Get Em Out by Friday I'd much rather do with shit like the battle of epping forest.
I really fucking hope they tour the lamb lies down on broadway again, I would have loved to see that.
Yeah when I saw that theyd play Watcher of the Skies and Suppers Ready on the Selling England tour anyway, Id already seen the concert. But oh well, it was well worth it just to see Suppers Ready. And yeah, a Lamb tour would kick ass