>pick a random country
>check out their music scene
Very nice, how much?
Music is haram, but okay nonetheless
looks like they're all just a bunch of niggers
I don't mind a little pop country on the radio but I can only imagine how incessant it is down there
Svalbard and Jan Mayen
There is no music as far as I can research. Their national anthem sounds like it was produced by some forward thinking video artist.
I actually decided to do this seriously a couple months ago, picked India and most of my evenings since have been spent listening to new albums from the scene.
India has a really weird scene because the way their mainstream music works is different from anywhere else and it kind of fucked over the independent scene, though recently the internet has allowed a lot more music to get out there.
It's been really rewarding though, I've found a few things I really liked, I've listened to genres I might not have tried before, and the hipster in me is happy to be an expert on something that almost nobody knows anything about. Everyone should try getting deep into an isolated indie scene for a while.
here ya go bud
Khalifa Ould Eide & Dimi Mint Abba - Moorish Music From Mauritania
I've done it with quite a few.
but also Cameroon, India, and Thailand.
always an interesting way of finding new music other than just label hopping or whatever.
I doubt you've done it really in depth and across all genres though.
I've been going through Indian stuff for a little over a month, probably listening to around 3-4 new full albums a day, plus going through countless other songs to find albums that might be worth listening to, and I'm still mostly just dealing with stuff from the past few years in a few major genres.
from linked album below: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1g4pigL7Esc
rec'd album: https://mega.co.nz/#!6EgWiBSD!qhd9G7-L4hOtPrB7R5ntdVJI3APHsg0GkTTbZ2xUt6Q
It's one of my most-listened albums, love it
Myanmar: two diff stuff here
Burmese folk (Su Wai): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TTsQlEuTlOo
Percussive music from Myanmar/Burma: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VLhoE6NNX0o
Su Wai album (folk): https://mega.co.nz/#!uRhgHLRJ!B4hkWsrIdf6ezTPqqieYeKdUgFPbau5zL4_YAEp7uBU
Kyaw Kyaw Naing: https://mega.co.nz/#!eFxBwaKJ!QjI51L6xkjsw_PivsDF-vINMQC8nd32BMH0iGmBMGMM
Central and Southeast Asia have been favorites of mine in general.
Because I made a comment about something I was doing and he responded with 'oh I've done that loads of times' when he hadn't actually done anything similar at all.
Also for all that I love folk music, exploring a foreign scene is really more than that. I highly doubt folk music is the primary music scene in most of these countries. If you're gonna talk about a country's music scene, you should do more than look up the top folk albums and call it a day.
It really is. I love the landscape and music of Kyrgyzstan, I would like to visit it someday. I know little about it except that I really like that album that I linked to.
He was just trying to make conversation by saying like "hey cool, I've been doing the same!" not "oh thats nice, i do that loads of times and am way better than you"
>he hadn't actually done anything similar at all.
you don't actually know that, you dont even know anons name
Let's not turn this thread into a great big argument. It has potential if we keep the hubris in check.
>by saying like "hey cool, I've been doing the same!"
My only point was that that wasn't true. I know he wasn't trying to claim that he was better than me or anything. But he wasn't doing the same thing.
Well I didn't outright say he was lying at first, I just said 'I doubt you've actually done it' and he admitted he hadn't.
I mean, I really just came into this thread to say that actually devoting a lot of time to investigating a foreign music scene in depth is really fun and rewarding and people should try it if they're listening to new music. But taking a glance at the local folk traditions and investigating a country's music in depth are different (both worthwhile depending on what you're looking for) so I just felt it was a bit problematic to call it the same.
Okay what is some good North Korean music guys??? Fuck me.
>tfw it seems that most non-traditional music from smaller/less known countries is metal
I'm not saying metal is bad, I'm just not a fan of it. Seems like any time I decided to delve into music in a country, it's either traditional or metal. I guess I need to dig deeper to find other stuff..
>Best Korean music
Merzbow, you filthy animal.
One of my fav art pop/experimental artists is from Japan
parodied jpop idols and made some insane albums back in the 80s
pretty fucking bizarro
what exactly do you like about it? besides it's obvious pop eccentrics and limitless weirdo cred?
I love that she goes from this high pitched vocal to deep crazed operatic voice in such a short span of time, and the synthpop craziness in the albums. I don't speak Japanese, so I pretty much have zero idea how her lyrics are. I have a bunch of Japanese friends, though, and they've been teaching me some so maybe I can start seeing how well she writes.
Here's the opener of the album that got me into her: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozniSDA7pLk
Sorry, had to go take a shower.
Some of my top picks so far:
For folk, the stuff I've liked most is Rajasthani
Assamese (there's a particularly famous Assamese singer called Papon who occasionally does folk albums and they're fantastic)
And Tamil, but Tamil folk music actually isn't very well catalogued, so it can be hard to find good stuff. However, the Tamil movie industry actually has some excellent music directors and occasionally they'll pick up an authentic folk number for a film which is great. I especially like this one, I believe it's Chennai-area funeral music.
There's also a ton of great mainstream film music that incorporates a lot of folk elements. I actually like Indian film music for its willingness to sort of go all over the place in terms of genre.
For stuff from the actual independent music scene:
Raghu Dixit does a fantastic blend of folk and modern influences
Motherjane are one of the most popular rock bands
And I'm totally in love with both Sandunes, the future garage/post-dubstep girl who produced this track, and Nicholson, the ambient electro-folk/r&b guy who sings on it
The Indian indie scene is weird because so many acts try so hard to sound like Western acts with no Indian influences at all (I've seen people say they don't like listening to lyrics in anything other than English because Indian languages just remind them of mainstream music, which of course people who listen to independent music hate). But on the other hand, it's the people who actually do incorporate Indian sounds into their music that usually do the most interesting things, and also are more likely to actually get any level of fame.
India also has a version of a show called Coke Studio, which exists primarily as a vehicle for composers to try and make something cool using a very wide variety of influences
Prog rock with a famous Carnatic singer
Buddhist hymn plus Jordanian music
There's also a Coke Studio in Pakistan and the Middle East, anyone interested music from any of these countries should check it out.
I also liked a couple of the Sony Project Resound electronica + folk singles
I don't mean to bring up what we all ready settled.
but typically I prefer the traditional folk more-so than what they're putting out today.
I mentioned that pop culture tends to trickle down into "third world" countries and they end up just re-hashing what's all ready been done.
I'm usually looking for something that is just a 180 of what I hear in my day-to-day life.
It's almost like say "house" artists.
it all sounds very similar and is produced with a similar formula in mind.
you pretty much arbitrarily choose which "house" artists are "good" and which are "bad".
more often than not you go with what you're used to for the nostalgia factor. say Radiohead for "alternative rock".
idk, maybe I'm just drunk and talking out of my ass, but hopefully you get what I mean.
taking zero away from what you're doing and I salute you for it.
these links are great.
Honestly I feel like people are missing out if they just see all pop culture in developing countries as just rehashing Western stuff.
I mean it's fine if you think most modern popular music is also just rehashing what's been done, but generally the people who are capable of putting out modern style music in developing countries are already pretty middle class and have access to just as much music as we do. They're no more likely to rehash things than any new Western band, though depending on the scene, it might be harder for an original modern band to actually get any exposure.
Though personally, I'm a huge fan of acts that cast the net of influences wide and make modern music influenced by the local traditions, or really anything else. My favourites tend to be the ones that manage a great synthesis different kinds of music and have fun with it.
Not that I don't listen to the rest of it, of course. I'm fine with stuff that sounds totally Western and I've probably spent more money on authentic traditional music than any other kind of music. But reducing a country's music scene to the traditional folk and listening to it to be 'cultured' or because it's exotic is frankly kind of orientalist.
Though I may be a bit skeptical since I've seen traditional folk fans who couldn't even tell the difference between folk and non-Western classical, or would be completely lost in the differences within a country's various types of folk music. At that point, people are just listening to it because it's 'exotic' and are probably choosing what's 'good' for the same arbitrary reasons you apply to modern music.
you can tell when something is done from the heart as opposed to just re-hashing.
I take the music about as serious as the artist themselves do.
say that prog-rock link you sent me, how 10/10 serious do you think they were?
I feel like if they were being genuine at all and not just putting out a novelty track for MTV.. then it would shine out more than hot lights used for that set.
our culture (I'm in the US, not sure about you) essentially rehashes the past century and does little to nothing to try and promote avant-garde artists that would lead us in a direction.
this song is a perfect example of what I'm talking about.
>say that prog-rock link you sent me, how 10/10 serious do you think they were?
What exactly do you want them to be serious about? Everyone involved in that is absolutely a serious musician, the singer is actually one of my favourite current Carnatic vocalists and the composer is one of the better ones in the modern mainstream. People who make music for Coke Studio generally are trying to make something unusual and musically worthwhile, since it gives them an opportunity to make something that actually less commercially driven than most mainstream music.
Plus it's funny you picked on the prog since prog rock Carnatic music actually is a thing that a some musicians devote their entire careers to. Agam is probably the most famous for it, though their singer isn't exactly an Aruna Sairam-tier classical vocalist.
I mean, if you do think all modern music essentially rehashes the last century and does nothing new then you're fine to dismiss it and only listen to traditional stuff. At least you're being consistent about it. But isn't completely traditional music even more of a rehash essentially since it's been around for even longer than modern music without doing anything new?
I got Ethiopia, a nation I'm surprisingly well-versed in. Ethiopia is one of the most diverse musical regions in the world, spawning from the traditional balladry/club music that arose during the golden age of the 60s/70s under Amha and Kaifa records, to more obscure folk largely played with 6-string and 10-string lyres (The Krar and the Begena, respectively).
Perhaps the most interesting sounds from Ethiopia come from the music that was integrated into their Catholic proceedings, as heard from Tafese Tesfaye, which took their already unique vocal standard and utilized it for deeply spiritual, minimalistic repetitions.
Various Artists - Hasabè
My all-time favorite collection of Tizita, Hasabe has a perfect mixture of warm, light melodies and intense, chaotic vocal performances. Juxtaposing sunshine and darkness throughout, Hasabe is a quick and efficient look at the music of Ethiopia, again brought to you by Mississippi Records. One of my fifty favorite records ever.
ብዙነሽ በቀለ [Bezunesh Bekele] - Yenat Weleta
Tizita, being Amharic for ‘nostalgia, memory and longing’, represents a kind of soulful melancholy music from Ethiopia and Eritrea. This album shows female Tizita with excellent hooks and a strong dose of passion. One of my favorites from Ethiopia’s ‘Golden Age of Music’ which mostly took place during the 1970s.
አስናቀች ወርቁ [Asnaqètch Wèrqu] - Éthiopiques 16: Asnaqètch Wèrqu - The Lady With the Krar
>African Folk Music
This Ethiopian singer uses the Krar (5 to 6 string bowl-shaped lyre) to compliment her unique voice in this collection of powerful spirituals. One of my favorites from the Éthiopiques series from Buda music, an essential compilation series that documents the broadest range of Ethiopian music on the planet.
ውብሸት ፍስሐ [Woubeshet Feseha] - Woubeshet Feseha
Spiritually challenging Tizita from one of the more obscure singers. A cassette release that was sourced from the influential website, Awesome Tapes from Africa.
ታፈሰ ተስፋዬ [Tafese Tesfaye] - Zemana Getem Derasi
>Begena Music, African Folk Music
An Ethiopian Orthodox monk makes extremely minimal folk music with a Begena (bass lyre). This is music to repent your sins to. Hypnotic and moving.
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ዓለማየሁ እሸቴ [Alèmayèhu Eshèté] - Éthiopiques 9: Alèmayèhu Eshèté (1969-1974)
This is Tizita that's on the soul side of things. Passionate and charismatic. Referred to as the ‘James Brown’ of Ethiopia, he sings as if his life depends on it.
Yeah, I honestly just went with the first one that popped up. I'll give a new country a shot.
Mauritania actually has some extremely powerful ethnic music. Start with Moorish Music from Mauritania for some ear-engulfing vocals and some pure ould talent. I see it's shared in the thread, it's one of my thirty favorite records ever and it's highly recommended. Praise Songs by Ooleya Mint Amartichitt is in the same vein, but has a stronger emphasis on vocals.
L' Orchestre national de Mauritanie is more of an Afro-Jazz take on things, tangibly influenced from the Mande explosion in Guinea and Mali.
Aigiri Nandini, you mean?
Indians love messing with that song apparently. Pleb as it is, I also love this hip-hop song that has a hook made out of Aigiri Nandini.
Ooleya Mint Amartichitt - Praise Songs
A voice as powerful as her Moorish predecessor in this thread, Dimi Mint Abba. Similar to Moorish Music from Mauritania, and recommended for anyone wishing to look deeper into the genre.
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L' Orchestre national de Mauritanie - La Mone / Kamlat
>Afro-Jazz, West African Music
L’Orchestre National was a sentimental force in Mauritanian Music during the 60s and 70s, bringing a unique and cultured style of afro-jazz and filtering it through traditional Mauritanian roots. This quick single gives a proper look at the way the sound was developed.
The Mande explosion in the 60s and 70s was a cultural uprising during a time of great political strife in Guinea and Mali. As the sounds of Afrobeat spread north, and from the West spawned the sounds of rock music, the traditional folk of the area quickly turned into a supernatural phenomena of never-before-heard polyrhythmic jam-out bliss. Labels like Editions Syliphone Conakry, Mali Kunkan and Badmos wound up revolutionizing the course of African music in the wake of this revolution, resulting in biannual 'battle of the bands' competitions featuring the premiere orchestras of the region.
Burkina Electric. Cool if you're into stuff like Massive Attack:
Togo borders Burkina Faso and they also speak French. I can't find any interesting modern music.
A channel full of Togo's pop music: