>>54284806 what's this stupposed to represent? I know that the outer note is what makes each inner chord a minor, but that's not the circle of fifths.
be cautious of following these systems. i write music, and i try to avoid music theory as much as possible. it's nice for analyzing music, but useless for creating it. using such logical thinking isn't all that helpful for the creative process.
>>54284836 if you make any sort of genre that relies, generally, on harmonic theory: no/maybe a little but as an artist it oughtn't impede you
if you make avant-garde music: maybe, but you ought to know enough about how things are ~usually~ done to be sure you aren't accidentally playing conformist music you didn't know about, and, as an artist it oughtn't impede you
>>54284941 I understood the concept without knowing those words. What does it matter I didn't know the specific phrase your teacher taught you? I'm not trying to make it in classical music dude. If I'm playing in a band and I say A minor, I expect everyone to know that C creates a somberness of mood in an A. This should be obvious for anyone who's played an instrument for a long time. Getting autistic over exact wording gets you nowhere.
>>54284836 Nope. The opposite is true. Understanding theory is key when playing with other people and can greatly facilitate not only your understanding but also your enjoyment of music. Knowing/learning theory is legitimately loads of fun not to mention it is not hard to learn. Also there is a 99 point ninehundred nine nine nine chance that if you don't know any theory you will *often* use overdone and basic techniques and progressions when writing music (which is fine) It's way easier to properly do your own thing when you know theory.
>>54285245 >>54285249 I don't care about any of that. Usually guitars get tuned down to A standard, not B standard. So when the original anon said A#, it made sense since it's a half step higher from A standard.
My knowledge of music theory was taught to me by taking jazz band, but i still think theory can be a hindrance.
it's useless. you get the same skill level just from experimentation. knowing scales,chords,modes,intervals, none of it pays off unless you plan to do one particular genre really well. i just mess with every particular one i like.
>>54285565 you should spend more time with classical performers or jazz players. then you'd see the reason people tend to use one spelling over another. Bb is common as fuck. A#, people start looking at you weird... "are we playing in g# minor anon? I don't see any F, G, C or D sharps though...."
>>54285565 How much money have you made in music? Do people call you to play music on their albums? Are you signed to a label? Are you skilled enough to play Classical or Jazz repertoire? If you answered no to any of these questions you have no right to insult theory and say it stifles creativity.
>>54285634 Maybe you just aren't a creative person.
>>54285634 I agree with this, however, for those who aren't naturally talented with music, being taught theory can really give you some essential building blocks to take your creativity where it needs to be in order to be self-sufficient.
Also, even if you completely manage to be a successful musician without knowing theory, if you want to communicate with other musicians, knowing theory is vital.
>>54285598 I'd be lying if I said that taking jazz and playing bass didn't teach me a thing or two about theory. But when I sit down to play now I drop my basic knowledge of theory and just try to play what sounds or feels good. I'll tap into that area of my brain sometimes though, but sometimes that makes me more frustrated and willing to give up since I'm not enjoying it at that point.
>>54285685 I would usually say usually Bb too, I understand how it works. Bb is a very prominent note, but so is A on the guitar. I've played in a jazz band in the rhythym section, and you know as well as I do that bass guitar and an idea of theory are vital.
>>54284836 Ehhh not really. Music Theory is nothing more than the study of music. The problem is, from what I understand, is that the method of teaching leads students into thinking in black and white.
Because they are being taught a fundamental system they think playing within the system is "Good" and playing outside is "Bad."
The system itself being the introductory concepts of rhythm, harmony, melody, and consonance. Having music that encompasses these things sound "Good" to everyone (as in they like it).
But you can play music with weird rhythms, or lacking harmony and melody, and having more dissonant features and have it sound beautiful if you know how to. That's basically the more advanced theory you would learn. It's all about understanding the dynamics.
So a person who is beginner in music who is just grasping these systematic concepts are probably gonna be boxed in, at first. While someone without said knowledge could discover something that sounds 10x cooler than something that contradicts what the beginner knows.
For instance: This guy with no music theory knowledge plays some notes out of key, but it sounds really good. A person who only knows a little theory would be like "WTF!? He's playing notes that are neither in major nor minor!" While someone who knows more would be like "Cool you discovered a phrase that utilizes the harmonic minor scale." And at the end of the day, that guy who played those notes won't know the fuck what he did.
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