>>54333722 inb4 "its all just a joke/metaphor lol chill out"
>spends an entire album lamenting black-on-black gang violence and encouraging a constructive black identity >invokes some nostalgia dead gangster faggot in the last couple seconds to joke about black-on-white violence all of my what
maybe i just dont know enough about tupac to get this
>album is about how white people have done us bad but we need to get our act together instead of acting like niggers and blaming them for everything >blacks continue to blame whitey and act like niggers
>>54334014 >they so buttmad we found a non-retarded identity the thing is, based on the reactions on here, Twitter, other message boards etc, is many of your people are indeed extremely buttmad. you clearly are.
>>54334290 what I will say is that my problem is with people who exercise and practice white supremacy, not white people as a whole.
but as far as music, black people in general have been far too accepting of letting whites infiltrate them without cross examining them for being white supremacists. case in point: every rapper accepting Justin Bieber even though he was obviously a racist in disguise.
finally we're starting to look very closely at those in the dominant society who in the last few years have gotten ridiculously bold with their racism.
>>54334428 i see comments on conscious hip hop song videos on youtube from black nationalists calling for an uprising of black people against the white man? how the fuck would they even hope to accomplish that?
>>54334474 People who can't think long term. Okay you kill all whiteys or whatever and black people conquer america. There is still Europe, China, Russia, Middle east, and other places who would just conquer you in return for the land and resources here.
There are a few kooky China generals about 10 years who had plans to use biological weapons to conquer America. It was mostly crazies but anyway the idea of black people "conquering" things is pretty stupid. Even in black dominated Africa they still sell all their resources and anything of value to the rest of the world while stagnating.
>>54334447 there isnt literally a black person on this earth right now at this very momernt, ho has listened to this album and thought "i feel like killing a white person right goddamn now" like i can assure this 100%
>>54334514 I meant that most blacks interpret it as "kill whitey", but now that you mention it it seems like most everyone is viewing it the same way. Kinda ironic because the album talks against that.
>>54334559 "Race" or what might be defined as genetic mix is incredibly in any society whether homogenous or very visually different. We are hard wired to look at other people in a natural survivor way. For instance hating a weak and useless male or wanting to bang the big breasted wide hipped girl with a symmetric face.
The importance of genetics in a scientific way is only going to increase and there are much better studies into racial differences in terms of which genes are found in certain populations. A good example is MAOA 2R which is found in about 5% of African Americans but virtually non existent in other races and has been scientifically proven to be associated with certain predisposition to violence due to how it affects dopamine and other chemistry within the brain. You can look up MAOA on google for studies and more information if you want to become educated.
Depending how you look at it with the advent of genetic science and cheap sequencing we can much more accurately gauge the genetic characteristics of a person much more accurately and intelligently than by skin color or racial features.
It's impossible to predict how these advances in science will affect society due to the irrationality of human beings but the judgement of people on inherited genetics will only become easier and more prevalent. In fact racism and the fear of racism will probably be the only friction towards widespread adoption of such rational analysis and understanding of humans as rather predictable objects instead of as magical or spiritual beings.
Going from "black" to "he carries a specific gene which makes it harder for him to control his aggression" is going to be quite interesting. Just for clarification this type of analysis will also be used on all people not just black people.
>>54334456 i think you are reaching with the white supremacist talk. i think the biggest issue is white people who think racism is 'no longer an issue' and fail to see past their own limited experiences.
This album is hilarious, it encourages everything wrong with black culture.
Who do you think supports you? Who do you think funds your existence through the bullshit tax system? Black people wouldn't be able to do shit without white people and they know it. Only an uppity, preachy self-indulged delusional shit like Kendrick would think that.
Look at Haiti or any African country ffs, they can't go a year without outside aid.
>>54334290 Why not? Are these not white people that live in the real world? This isn't even limited to 4chan. You hear the same shit on every youtube video about black people, every news article, every movie, etc.
>>54334908 A lot of people are offended by the term 'white supremacy.' I agree with you that people who say 'race is no longer an issue!' are trolls who dont even believe that. But by pretending to ignore race, those people are perpetuating the system of white supremacy which has many different tentacles and manifestations.
>>54335091 >he thinks that white supremacy is real people who are better educated and better at playing by the rules of the society tend to be more succesful and therefore attain more power, how mindblowing.
>>54335157 They are much more violent than other races. While it could probably be reduced by legalizing and controlling drugs. In general they have 8x-10x higher likelihood to murder than other races and also are much more violent in terms of crime than other races at the same economic brackets.
It's not police, the reason police have to be so harsh in these neighborhoods or profile is because the stereotype is based on reality.
>>54334923 >Look at Haiti or any African country ffs, they can't go a year without outside aid. Maybe because white people fucked up their countries. And maybe because they have to deal with shitty conditions, weather, etc. Africa is a shitty place WITHOUT people in it.
>>54335106 >Shit, I think that niggas is tired-a grabbin' shit out the stores and next time it’s a riot there’s gonna be bloodshed for real. I don’t think America can know that. I think American think we was just playing and it’s gonna be some more playing but it ain’t gonna be no playing. It’s gonna be murder, you know what I’m saying, it’s gonna be like Nat Turner, 1831, up in this muthafucka. You know what I’m saying, it’s gonna happen
i wish i could agree with you man all the kendrick parts are great all the fake pac stuff is awful meme shit
nobody is actually worried about a black uprising everybody is mad he inserted le black uprising meme into an otherwise pretty thoughtful album
>>54335193 It was good. Didn't make me feel any different about myself. I knew all these things already but I'm glad he is bringing it to the mainstream. The better question is, why are we here talking about the album when /mu/ is "14-19 year old suburban white boy: The Board". Its not for them at all and the themes are going over all their heads but I'm still here anyway. Fucking.
>>54335256 >white people fucked up their countries
It's hilarious when people say this. Germany was utterly destroyed after WW2. China was fucking starving to death and not able to feed it's own people. Japan was destroyed and occupied. South Korea was rebuilt in the famous "miracle on the han river" and now has worldwide giants like Samsung.
The idea all of Africa could not recover since colonialism because of white people is very far fetched. The reality is culturally and genetically they just are not capable of modern civilization. They had malaria and cannibals to worry about rather than building large empires or creating huge agricultural societies.
>race issues have huge marketing potential these days >fits perfectly with Lamar's cuck audience and black fanbase >Lamar complaining about muh capitalism muh inequality >he's literally made an entire album perfectly sculpted to his target audience and designed to maximise revenue for his record company
That idea of the new chains of black people are the ones that are sold to them so they can put them around their necks is so true.
>>54335142 You guys have to take into consideration the geography. Africa is full of ruthless terrain with little to no resources that they could export. Nigeria's economy is decent because they have a ton of oil.
>>54335390 I know but still. There has to be something? Stormfront fags ruin almost every board I'm a regular on short of /co/. And they are on the complete other side of the spectrum with the SJWs. Where are the normal fucking people that don't believe in this bullshit boogeyman and just live their lives? I don't blame moot for leaving at all. This place is getting insufferable between this cuck buzzword shit and /pol/'s retardation spreading like wildfire. 4chan has always been edgy in a joking almost ironic way. Now it isn't self aware in the least and they're just making fools of themselves.
> Maybe because those problems are very prominent in todays society
lmao, no, it's because it's a hot button cared mostly for by his target audience. Who pretends to like jazz and social justice? College kids.
Can you literally not see the entire point of this album in terms of making money? Race issues have never been as unimportant as they are now, it's only the media whipping people into a frenzy because it's a great way to make money, make more middle-class blacks and whites into right-on activists and sell more crap.
>>54333366 Call it his Stankonia. Call it his Fear of a Black Planet. But these comparisons are of course easy to make. These albums were stellar left-hooks to already impressive uppercuts. Whether or not they were superior to their predecessors is irrelevant: the beauty comes in the fact that they're at least as good as them. And let's just roll with that for Kendrick.
The lyrics are personal, yet universal. Kendrick consistently darts the line between introspective reflection and extroverted demagoguery. It never feels forced, even when he sobs as on "u". Perhaps this is the greatest strength of the album: it's full, frontal honesty. Kendrick's come down to talk to us.
But even more impressive than his already-established-as-great lyricism is the production. Jazz and Funk influences are obvious, but more importantly DYNAMIC production that adapts to the track and the moods. The music knows Kendrick, and he knows the music. This forms a beautiful harmony that is the crux of To Pimp a Butterfly: Kendrick knows himself. He knows what is expected of him. And he fills that role spectacularly.
>>54335636 /mu/ is one of the few places who is still quite reasonable about this issue. But I don't know how long it will last. I've noticed it too, people are getting really dogmatic and are trying to push their stormfront agenda constantly. It has gotten really annoying.
>>54335355 kek Japan, Germany and South Korea received massive amounts of aid to protect these countries against communism.
>>54335711 >Hmmm how about Germany's massive desert and punishing conditions for weather >all of those countries are easily hospitable
They have winter do deal with. Winter entails freezing temperatures and requires planning in order to survive. When man moved north he had to adapt to new environments and this created physiological evolutionary changes.
>>54335816 is this that speedrunner that got angry at that one autist guy at sgdq
also the difference is that white people actually can impose some power with their racism and pride. black people taking pride in who they are is harmless besides giving them some hope and respect for themselves.
>>54335798 Well the reality is Europe and other places didn't conquer it because if Malaria and diseases.
Fucking mosquitos. There are accounts of various groups trying to live in Africa and pretty much all of them went horribly and died of various disease pretty quickly.
It can be summarized that a large aspect to African survival is simply based on not dying to malaria rather than any cognitive or physical ability.
North Africa is far different but pretty much all African Americans are not from there. Pretty hilarious when they claim descent from Egyptians and shit when that is basically impossible due to the distance and terrain in between.
>>54335816 Who are you talking about? Who encourages black pride? Black people? No shit. One look at this board and you'll see nobody actually supports the shit. Also White pride is associated with Hitler and the KKK both of which attempted genocide. So that's probably why anon.
Also, yeah. Not sure what you're on about. I'm sure I'm not the first one to point it out, but Kendrick has never said anything even remotely to that tune. So. Yeah. Again. Not sure what you're on about. Probably just bait. Whatever.
>>54335993 Hahahahahaha >>>>>>>>>/pol/ >>54335985 What scientific squiggles Such great proof >>54336010 >because they were accepted (pressured) against African governments that makes them legitimate Oh the lengths racists will take you!
> does come even close to a focused program such as the marshall plan >entirely missing the point about base human needs remaining unchanged but the cost of supplying those being 10000x less than in 1940
>>54335953 Not the guy you're replying to but the corrupt governments in Africa basically sell their countries out to be raped by corporations This is pretty standard, see the diamond and precious metal industries
If you take a population and do natural selection you very quickly arrive at specific results. Even 3-4 generations with heavy selection occurring can lead to entirely different populations at the end.
So it's much faster than what people think of as slow evolution. Africans just had very different things to survive from than Europeans or Chinese.
A mongolian army didn't sweep through Africa and large Roman empires didn't conquer most of Africa etc. It's just entirely different environments and diseases to deal with and different levels of social interactions.
Just living in a city versus a simple tribe will "domesticate" humans quite rapidly as the people who thrive are VERY different than in a small tribe.
The effect of Europe starting civilizations and complex social structures earlier and in environments that require much more long term planning for seasonal variation probably gave a very different selection.
There could still be very intelligent Africans but they would be a smaller fraction of the population or very violent people make up a larger fraction.
It's very simple and logical and actual scientific evidence shows these genetic variations (MAOA genes being the best).
>>54336088 Jungle is not a good environment for humans to evolve in though. It's great for coming as an advanced civilization with cures for malaria and shit but as an average person you're basically infested with parasites and shitty disease.
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