POST OTHER ALBUMS BETTER THAN KENDRICK AHAHAHAH
hahahahah what a complete piece of shit, nice try fucking nigger, everyone knows rap is a white mans game now.
>caring about bitchfork
yeezus is definitely not better than Madvillainy though
i'm gonna use this thread to talk about this cuz i don't feel like making one
i listened to madvillainy. it's awesome. great collab on the part of doom and madlib, they mesh together really well.
but why is it considered such a legendary album? i loved it, but i didn't think of it as a 10/10 blow my dick off album
please explain to a hiphop plebeian why madvillainy is a 10/10 musical standard
>mfw GKMC > TPAB will now be the popular opinion thanks to p4k drones/plebs
It was the right album at the right time. At the time it was a breath of fresh air and really well done.
>10/10 musical standard
who says that and who cares? it's really good. why care about the number?
But JD is (allegedly) Death Grips' swan song. Not only is it likely DG saved their best shit for it, but also p4k is more likely to preserve their legacy by overrating the fuck out of it.
THOU SHALL NOY WORSHIP FALSE PROPHETS
ALL HAIL THE KING
KENDRIC WASNT LIBERAL ENOUGH FOR THEM
>Kendrick’s principle of personal responsibility has treaded dangerously close to respectability politics lately, especially after a prickly remark about the Mike Brown shooting in a recent Billboard interview that seemed to pin the death on the victim, but To Pimp a Butterfly avoids that trap. (Mostly.) links to the end of blacker the berry
Post albums that are better than Cuckdick's and deservedly so.
Nah they're just trying to give some context. If anything it made the score higher because some people expected him to go the Bill Cosby "maybe if you pulled up your pants racism will go away" direction
This gives Kendrick room and motivation to grow even more and keep making better albums.
Kanye will never top MBDTF and that's not even a question because of its legendary status mostly caused by the ten.
>tfw p4k LITERALLY called Pharrell a "house nigger" after he talked about the need for blacks to take personal responsibility for their lives
can we just talk about how the review hardly even discussed the music and just throws around a context and "meaning" of the album?
it makes sense that they gave mbdtf a 10, because that was kanye at his most compelling as a public icon. pitchfork in general just tends to focus on the context and meanings of the albums and not the actual entertainment of it.
It got a 7-something and then in it's later reissue it got a 10.
Not nearly as bad as Daft Punk's Discovery getting a 6.4, and then when it was time for the best album of the decade list it placed third (over Wilco who got a 10).
I don't really get why you guys get so mad about this stuff. Do you still love all the same stuff you did a few years ago? Our tastes change/evolve and often we'll either start loving stuff we used to not care about or stop caring about things we used to love. It's really not that hard to get
as memey as these albums are, at least they're better than TPaB
Edited: Jay Z said that claiming a dominance over the issue of color is akin to appealing to the white mainstream media that wants to look at racism as an issue of the past. Safy-Hallan Farah is the person who wrote the article. She doesn't "literally call Pharrell a house nigger" she asks, "Is Pharrell a house nigger?" Btw Safy-Hallan Farah is black.
>muh king kendrick
what's a king to a god
Jesus, you are dense for someone into literature. You’re thinking on the surface level. You’re thinking, “If Kanye says something that comes across as clever or insightful, it’s deep.” But that’s such a pre-modern way to look at art. The way he interacts with the listener, building and subverting metamusical expectations, commenting on multiple metamusical, sociopolitical and personal subjects with single lines is brilliant. What work has played jump rope with the line between irony and sincerity as effectively as Yeezus? From the opening seconds of On Sight, to the chorus of I Am A God, to the final spoken sample of Bound 2, no other work of any medium has worked with such an ambiguity of awareness of its context. I’m not saying Yeezus is brilliant because it showcases great technical compositional proficiency or especially novel aesthetic innovations (though autotuned Chief Keef, Justin Vernon, ’80s guitars and trap beats have never been fused so artfully), I’m saying its ability to project outwardly from itself and work in a space so self-aware (yet somehow sometimes simultaneously ham-handedly solipsistic) that it shatters any post-post-modern dichotomy between affectation and sincerity sets it apart from other works of art. The whole album skips back and forth over the “is this dude serious?” line, only for Bound 2 to answer with a resounding “we have no fucking clue.” Where the recent metamodernists have decided that continual sinusoidal oscillation between critical points of intense sincerity and irony is a valid solution to the nihilism inherent in extreme postmodernity, Kanye instead manipulates for the oscillation of the listener’s perception rather than affecting a self-defeatingl y earnest oscillation of himself. In this way, Yeezus can be seen as a work of meta-metamodernism. To call the album “ahead of its time” would be a vast understatement.
i think its because of the hype TPAB got. people who were disappointed or feel it didnt live up to the hype find in necessary to compare it to other albums and fight over whats "better" .
I definitely can't answer for how everyone else sees p4k but I love reading that site purely for the news and politics.
It's only one person's opinions that are put into a review. There have been many reported cases of different writers at p4k claiming they would have given an album a much higher or lower review.
But even though it's just opinion it IS pretty fun and bizarre to ponder about a website's ability to control listeners. Every BNM gets a huge spike in sales and visibility.
I almost find it comparable to watching the news. You might already have your thoughts on a subject figured out but isn't it fun to read other people's opinons? Does anyone else read p4k purely to get a different opinion on a piece of art?
I mean correct me if I'm wrong here. Who here reads p4k to actually be told what to listen to and who here reads p4k purely to see someone else's opinion?
Not mad I just find it interesting how hard their tastes changed to consider 2 albums they gave mediocre scores to became potential 10s. Makes me wonder what goes on inside their building if they didn't even get BNMs.
so fucking true.
I love reading how many paragraphs are dedicated to context and public image in comparison to how many songs are discussed.
>that horrible todd terje review only described 2 songs
>tkol review touches on each individual song chronologically
where is the consistency
in retrospect, it's very surprising to me that p4k didn't give MPP a 10
like...how could they not? and what's the point of a 9.6, anyway?
also, have they done any 9.7 9.8 or 9.9's?
please link if so
DAILY REMINDER THAT PITCHFORK WORKS LIKE THIS:
1) SOMEONE WRITES A REVIEW OF THE ALBUM
2) EVERYONE ON THE STAFF LISTENS TO IT AND GIVES IT A SCORE, AND ALL THE SCORES ARE AVERAGED OUT
SOURCE: A FRIEND WHO HAD HIS ALBUM REVIEWED BY PITCHFORK. THIS IS HIS BEST GUESS
>Achtung Baby is a classic and their best record
That record is when they started going to shit. They hadn't gone full retard yet, but the signs were there. Bono was high on his on his own shit after that album.
implying there's a single moment on To Pimp a Butterfly that rivals
>middle section of On Sight
>screams on I Am A God
>ending of New Slaves
>ending of Hold My Liquor
>Blood on the Leaves drop
Fucking exactly. It gets on my nerves sometimes but then I rememeber that I have a better understanding of music than these people and feel great. Just glad they have no leg to stand on in saying that TPAB is better than Yeezus.
I get what you're saying. I certainly like HTTT more as a whole though. Haunting album. No songs that I would personally skip, it paints a really vivid picture on its own.
Obviously I like In Rainbows a lot, it's a great album, I just personally think HTTT is a lot better and pretty underrated considering most people have it on the end of their favorite Radiohead album list when it's more toward the top for me.
BOOM BABY GOOD NIGHT KING KENDRICK!
The fact of the matter is that this Kendrick's Yeezus and it doesn't match it. Not saying I'm surprised, just relieved that the opinion that counts agrees. Say what you like about P4k and about how you define your own taste, you know damn fucking well that the overriding opinions on this board are defined by Pitchfork - and rightly so.
>implying Houses of the Holy doesn't deserve every point of that score
I'll be here when p4k gives meme grips a 9.5 and this board litreally implodes in upon itself and drags all of this cancer into a black hole. Then we can all get back to talking about ITAOTS
I thought people were finally over this, you all epitomize how people today don't care about the quality of music, just that it sounds "cool" therefore it is great.
You don't even know why you like it, you just know you don't like people who dislike it themselves
>Pitchfork is fair and more often than not correct in their assessments
Now I remember why I barely come to this board anymore.
Everyone needs to stop comparing To Pimp a Butterfly and Yeezus. Kendrick is trying to be 2Pac, Kanye is trying to be Picasso or Duchamp or Barthes. Kendrick’s album is deeply rooted in history and current events and sociopolitical commentary while Kanye’s is so meta and about art itself that it’s disappointingly self-indulgent but then transcendently timeless. It’s like comparing Invisible Man and Ulysses, or Selma and Birdman. I’m not even talking structure or genre or sound. The whole approach to art is different.
They're incredibly different albums on multiple levels to the point that the only thing they have in common is that they both reside in the same genre...barely.
If you can't see that, you need to listen to more music.
To Pimp A Butterfly?
Better luck next time Memedrick!
That's actually exactly what I imagined the new Pitchfork worked like. Old PF was a bunch of a bitter cunts who would shred good albums for a laugh, or go off on weird tangents that had nothing to do with the album they were reviewing. They're totally corporate now.
I meant to reply to >>54413713
notice how the scores get more and more hyperbolic as the hype increases, as Kanye West becomes this person you're SUPPOSED to give 10's to.
unless he fucks up COLOSSALLY badly, he gets BNM.